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Zoe Papadakis

Does it matter if my Roth 401k contributions aren't showing up on my W-2?

Just got my W-2 today and noticed something weird. I've been putting money into a Roth 401k through my company's plan all year, but when I look at my W-2, there's nothing listed on line 12a. Shouldn't there be an amount with some code there? I'm pretty sure my contributions were coming out of each paycheck because I can see them on my pay stubs and my 401k account shows the deposits. I'm wondering if this is going to cause problems when I file my taxes. Does this mean my contributions weren't actually going into a Roth 401k? Or is this normal and I'm overthinking it? My employer isn't the most organized with paperwork stuff so I'm a little worried they messed something up that could affect my taxes. Anyone know if this is significant or if I should be asking my HR department about it before I file?

Jamal Carter

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This is actually normal and nothing to worry about. Roth 401k contributions don't show up on your W-2 in box 12a because they're made with after-tax dollars. Traditional 401k contributions (pre-tax) will show in box 12a with code D, but Roth contributions are handled differently. Your Roth 401k contributions should be included in your W-2 Box 1 wages (which means you're properly paying taxes on them now), but they won't be listed separately with their own code like pre-tax contributions are. You can double-check that your contributions were made correctly by looking at your last pay stub of the year - it should show your total Roth 401k contributions for the year. Also, your 401k plan administrator should provide you with a year-end statement showing all your contributions.

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Wait, so if I made both traditional and Roth 401k contributions, would only the traditional ones show up in 12a? And the Box 1 wages includes the Roth contributions because they're already taxed? That's confusing but I think I get it now.

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Jamal Carter

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Yes, exactly right. If you made both types of contributions, only the traditional (pre-tax) ones would show up in box 12a with code D. Your Roth contributions are already included in your Box 1 wages because they're made after taxes have been taken out. Box 1 on your W-2 shows your taxable wages after certain pre-tax deductions (like traditional 401k) have been subtracted. Since Roth contributions are made with money you've already paid taxes on, they remain part of your taxable wages in Box 1.

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Amara Chukwu

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NeonNova

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The service doesn't let you "skip" the queue - they wait in line for you and call you when they're about to connect with an agent. So you're still in the queue, you just don't have to personally sit there listening to hold music for hours. The IRS is actually extremely helpful when you can get through to them. The agent I spoke with pulled up Publication 525 and explained exactly how retirement plan contributions are reported on W-2s. They even emailed me the relevant documentation I could show my employer's payroll department.

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NeonNova

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Check your last pay stub for the year - it should show your YTD Roth 401k contributions. Compare that to your W-2 Box 1 (taxable wages). If your Box 1 includes all your wages AFTER traditional 401k but WITH the Roth 401k amounts, then everything is correct. It's confusing but Roth 401k won't show separately on W-2 like traditional 401k does.

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But if the Box 1 amount is wrong (like if they excluded the Roth contributions somehow), does that mean you might be paying wrong amount of taxes? I contribute to roth 401k too and now im worried

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If Box 1 is wrong, then yes, you could potentially pay the wrong amount of taxes. If they incorrectly excluded your Roth 401k contributions from Box 1, you'd be underreporting your taxable income and could face issues later. Your Roth 401k contributions should be made with money that's already been taxed, which means that amount should be included in your Box 1 taxable wages. If it's not, your employer may have mistakenly treated your Roth contributions as traditional pre-tax contributions.

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Is this different for a Roth IRA vs a Roth 401k? I contribute to a Roth IRA on my own, not through my employer, and don't see anything about it on my W-2 at all.

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Ava Thompson

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Completely different situation. Roth IRAs are personal accounts you set up outside of work - they'd never show on your W-2 because that's just for employer-related income and deductions. Your W-2 wouldn't show anything about a Roth IRA contribution.

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Zara Mirza

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Just wanted to add that if you're still unsure, you can also check your 401k provider's website or app - they usually have a year-end summary that breaks down exactly how much you contributed to traditional vs Roth accounts. This can help you verify that your payroll deductions were actually going to the right type of account. Also, if you contributed to both traditional and Roth 401k accounts during the year, your total contributions across both accounts still can't exceed the annual limit ($22,500 for 2023, $23,000 for 2024). So even though they're reported differently on your W-2, the IRS still tracks your combined contributions to make sure you don't go over the limit.

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Sophia Miller

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Thanks for asking this question! I was literally panicking about the same thing when I got my W-2 last week. I've been contributing to a Roth 401k all year and couldn't figure out why there was no code in box 12a. After reading through all these responses, I feel so much better knowing this is completely normal. I just double-checked my last pay stub and can confirm that my YTD Roth 401k contributions are indeed included in my Box 1 wages on the W-2. It's counterintuitive at first because you expect to see retirement contributions listed separately, but it makes sense once you understand that Roth contributions are made with after-tax dollars. For anyone else who's confused about this - I also called my 401k provider (Fidelity) and they confirmed that everything looks correct on their end. They said this is one of the most common questions they get during tax season because people expect to see their Roth contributions explicitly listed somewhere on the W-2.

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Mason Stone

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I'm actually in the exact same boat - been contributing to a Roth 401k all year and was completely confused when I didn't see anything in box 12a on my W-2. Reading through this thread has been incredibly helpful. I'm going to check my last pay stub now to make sure my YTD Roth contributions match what should be included in Box 1. It's reassuring to know this is such a common question - I was worried I was the only one who didn't understand how this works!

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This is such a helpful thread! I was in the exact same situation and was getting really worried that my employer had made some kind of mistake with my Roth 401k contributions. One thing I'd add is that if you want to be extra sure everything is correct, you can also request a "Summary Plan Description" from your HR department. This document explains exactly how your company's 401k plan works and should clarify how Roth vs traditional contributions are handled on your paystubs and tax documents. I also learned that some payroll systems will show a breakdown on your final pay stub of the year with separate lines for "401k Roth" and "401k Traditional" contributions, which makes it easier to track. But even if your pay stubs don't break it down that clearly, as long as your total retirement contributions match what you intended to contribute, you should be good to go. The key thing to remember is that Roth 401k contributions are treated like regular income for tax purposes (since you pay taxes on them now), while traditional 401k contributions reduce your current taxable income (which is why they show up separately in box 12a).

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The Boss

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This is really great advice about requesting the Summary Plan Description! I didn't know that was something you could ask for from HR. I'm definitely going to do that because I want to make sure I fully understand how my company handles the different types of contributions. It sounds like having that documentation could also be helpful if there are ever any questions or discrepancies down the road. Thanks for sharing that tip!

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Liam Sullivan

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I went through this exact same confusion last year! What really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track everything. I listed my gross pay, traditional 401k contributions, Roth 401k contributions, and other deductions, then calculated what my Box 1 wages should be. The formula is basically: Gross Pay - Traditional 401k - Other Pre-tax Deductions = Box 1 Wages (which includes your Roth 401k contributions since they're after-tax). Once I did this calculation and compared it to my actual W-2, everything made perfect sense. My Roth contributions were indeed "invisible" on the W-2 because they're already included in the taxable wages amount. It's definitely counterintuitive at first, but the math works out correctly. If your numbers don't match up when you do this calculation, then you might have a legitimate issue to discuss with your HR department. But in most cases, everything is probably correct even though it doesn't look like what you'd expect.

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Eli Butler

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This spreadsheet approach is brilliant! I'm definitely going to try this method to verify my own W-2. As someone who's new to understanding how retirement contributions work on tax forms, having a clear formula like that really helps break it down. I appreciate you sharing the exact calculation - it makes the whole "invisible Roth contributions" concept much clearer. Quick question though: when you say "other pre-tax deductions," does that include things like health insurance premiums and HSA contributions too?

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