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This has been such a valuable discussion! I'm actually a CPA who's been considering teaching tax prep courses on the side, and reading through everyone's experiences has given me great insights into what students really need from these programs. One thing I'd add from the professional side is that both Liberty and H&R Block training can be good stepping stones, but if you're serious about tax as a career, consider supplementing with IRS Publication 17 (Your Federal Income Tax) and Pub 946 (How to Depreciate Property). These are free and will give you the technical depth that sometimes gets rushed in commercial courses. Also, regarding the Enrolled Agent discussion - while neither course directly prepares you for the EA exam, the practical experience you'll gain is invaluable. I always recommend that tax preparers work at least one full season before attempting the EA exam, as you'll encounter real-world scenarios that make the exam material click. For those thinking long-term: consider the VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) program too. It's free training that focuses on accuracy and ethics, plus it looks great on a resume if you ever want to transition to a CPA firm or other tax professional role. The most important thing is getting started - both programs will teach you the basics, and you can always build from there!
Thank you so much for this professional perspective! As someone just starting out, it's really helpful to hear from a CPA about how to build a solid foundation beyond just the commercial courses. I hadn't heard of the VITA program before - that sounds like an excellent way to get additional experience while also giving back to the community. Do you know if participating in VITA looks favorable when applying to work at established tax firms, or is it mainly valuable for the experience itself? Also, your point about working a full season before attempting the EA exam makes a lot of sense. I was wondering if I should jump into studying for it right away, but getting practical experience first seems much more logical. One question - for someone who's planning to supplement their Liberty or H&R Block training with those IRS publications you mentioned, do you have any advice on the best way to study them? They seem pretty dense for a newcomer to work through on their own. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your insights with those of us just getting started in this field!
Maya, I think you should follow your gut feeling about the teaching style not clicking with how you learn. I went through a similar situation with a Liberty instructor who was knowledgeable but just couldn't explain things in a way that made sense to me. What helped me decide was sitting in on a sample H&R Block session before committing. Most locations will let you observe a class or do a brief consultation about their program. The digital format might be exactly what you need - some people are visual learners who need to see the software in action rather than just working through manual calculations. The pay difference you mentioned is significant too. Over a 3-month tax season working 20 hours a week, that extra $3/hour adds up to about $720 more. That's not nothing! Since you're already partway through the Liberty course, you might also consider finishing it for the foundational knowledge (since you've already paid) and then supplementing with H&R Block's software-focused approach. Some preparers I know have done hybrid approaches where they get the theory from one program and practical skills from another. Whatever you decide, don't feel bad about switching if the current program isn't working for you. Your success in tax preparation will depend much more on truly understanding the material than on which company's logo is on your certificate.
That's really smart advice about sitting in on a sample H&R Block session! I didn't even think about asking to observe a class first. As someone who's also struggling with learning style mismatches, this could save a lot of time and money before making a switch. The hybrid approach you mentioned is intriguing too - getting the strong theoretical foundation from Liberty and then adding practical software skills elsewhere. Has anyone here actually done something like that successfully? I'm curious if employers value that kind of diverse training background or if they prefer candidates trained exclusively in their own system. @6a16f57c11b1 Do you know if most H&R Block locations are open to letting prospective students observe? I'd love to try this approach before making any decisions.
This discussion has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my rheumatoid arthritis medication costs $3,200 monthly, and I've been terrified to use the manufacturer's copay assistance because of HSA concerns. After reading through all these insights, I think I'm going to try the "bypass insurance entirely" approach that Jasmine and Grace discussed. It makes so much sense - if only the copay card is paying and insurance never processes the claim, there's no "dual coverage" issue to worry about. I do have one practical question though: For those who've used this approach, how do you handle it if you switch medications or if the manufacturer assistance program changes? I'm wondering about continuity and whether I need to stick with this method for the entire plan year or if I can adjust as needed. Also, has anyone had experience with their employer's benefits team regarding this? I'm curious if HR departments are generally aware of these nuances or if they typically just give the standard "check with your tax advisor" response. The peace of mind of knowing I can access my medication affordably while maintaining HSA eligibility would be huge. Thanks to everyone who's shared their real-world experiences here!
@0029ffcee4eb I'm new to this community but dealing with a very similar situation with my partner's expensive cancer medication, so this thread has been a lifesaver! Regarding your question about switching medications or program changes - from what I've researched, you can definitely adjust your approach as needed. The key is just being consistent within each medication/program. So if you start using the bypass method for your RA med, stick with that approach for that specific drug. If you later start a different medication, you can choose whichever compliant method works best for that situation. As for HR departments - in my experience, most benefits teams give pretty generic responses about HSA rules. However, some larger employers are starting to get more educated about these issues because so many employees are asking. It might be worth asking specifically if your plan has any "copay accumulator" or "copay maximizer" programs that could affect how manufacturer assistance works. One thing I learned from my partner's oncology pharmacist is that many specialty pharmacies are really knowledgeable about these payment coordination issues since they deal with high-cost medications daily. They might be a good resource for understanding how different approaches would work practically with your specific medication and insurance setup. Thanks to everyone who's shared such detailed insights - this is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that's impossible to find elsewhere!
This thread has been absolutely invaluable! I'm a newcomer here but have been struggling with this exact HSA/copay card dilemma for my Type 1 diabetes supplies and medications. What really resonates with me is how this issue highlights the gap between the technical IRS rules and the practical realities of managing expensive chronic conditions. The fact that even tax professionals are giving conflicting advice shows just how unclear the guidance really is. I'm particularly drawn to the "bypass insurance entirely" approach that Jasmine outlined from a pharmacist's perspective. It seems like the cleanest solution - no dual coverage issues, no complex coordination of benefits, just a straightforward cash transaction with manufacturer assistance. Plus, as Grace confirmed from the tax professional side, this avoids the core IRS concern about "other health coverage." One thing I'm curious about that hasn't been fully addressed: for those using continuous glucose monitors, insulin pumps, or other durable medical equipment with manufacturer assistance programs - do these same principles apply? Or do DME items fall under different rules since they're often processed differently than pharmacy claims? Also, for anyone who's successfully used these approaches: do you find that pharmacies are generally cooperative when you ask to bypass insurance? I imagine some might push back or not understand why you'd want to pay cash when you have coverage. Thanks to everyone who's shared such detailed, real-world experiences. This community is clearly filling a huge information gap that the official sources just don't address well!
This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who's relatively new to understanding employment tax issues, I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and resources. One thing I'd like to add is that situations like this highlight the importance of financial literacy in the workplace. Many employees (myself included until recently) just assume their employer is handling everything correctly and don't think to question compensation structures or tax classifications. It's encouraging to see that when approached respectfully with factual information, most employers are willing to correct these issues. The key seems to be having reliable resources to reference - whether that's tax analysis tools, IRS guidance, or professional consultation services - so you can have an informed conversation rather than just expressing concern without backing it up. For anyone dealing with similar issues, don't be afraid to advocate for proper classification. You're not just protecting yourself financially, but you're also helping ensure your employer stays compliant with tax laws, which ultimately benefits everyone.
You're absolutely right about the importance of workplace financial literacy! I think one of the biggest takeaways from this thread is how empowering it can be to understand your rights and have the resources to back up your concerns. What really resonates with me is your point about advocating for proper classification helping everyone. When employees speak up about these issues knowledgeably and respectfully, it creates a culture where tax compliance is seen as protecting both the business and its workers, rather than as adversarial. I'm also struck by how many practical resources people have shared here - from tax analysis tools to IRS connection services. It really shows that employees don't have to navigate these complex situations alone or rely solely on their employer's interpretation of tax law. This thread should honestly be required reading for anyone starting their career! Understanding the difference between employee and contractor classification, knowing when to question compensation structures, and having resources to research these issues are such valuable skills that can save significant money and stress down the road.
This is exactly the kind of situation that makes me appreciate communities like this where people can get real, practical advice! As someone who's been on both sides of small business employment, I want to emphasize how important it is that you spoke up about this. What's really encouraging about your update is that your boss was receptive once he understood the actual legal requirements. This suggests it genuinely was a misunderstanding rather than intentional tax avoidance, which unfortunately does happen in some cases. For anyone else reading this thread who might face similar situations, the key takeaway is that employee bonuses should ALWAYS be processed through payroll and included on your W-2 - there are no legitimate exceptions to this rule when you're a regular employee. The "saving money on taxes" explanation is almost always a red flag that the employer is trying to shift their tax obligations onto you. I'm also grateful to everyone who shared those practical resources and tools. Having concrete information to reference makes these conversations so much more productive than just expressing general concern. It's a great reminder that knowledge really is power when it comes to protecting your financial interests at work!
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to share what I learned from my tax preparer. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if your LLC has been operating as a partnership but you've been filing as a sole proprietorship (Schedule C), the IRS might also flag this as an entity classification issue. Make sure when you file your 1065, you're consistent about your entity election. If you never filed Form 8832 (Entity Classification Election), the IRS defaults multi-member LLCs to partnership status, which is why you need the 1065. Also, don't forget about your state requirements! Most states require separate partnership returns too, and those penalties can add up. Some states are more forgiving than others with penalty abatement, but you'll want to check your specific state's requirements. One more thing - if you have any business bank accounts, make sure the income/expenses on your 1065 match your bank records. The IRS can cross-reference this, and inconsistencies might trigger additional scrutiny. Good luck getting this sorted out!
This is such a great point about state requirements - I completely forgot about those! Quick question though - if I'm filing late for federal, should I wait to file the state partnership return until after I submit the 1065, or can I do both at the same time? I'm in California and I know they can be pretty strict about penalties. Also, you mentioned Form 8832 - since I never filed one and the IRS defaults to partnership status anyway, do I need to worry about filing that now or can I just proceed with the 1065? I don't want to create more complications than I already have!
You can file both federal and state at the same time - no need to wait! In fact, it's better to get both done ASAP since California's penalties are steep ($18 per partner per month for late filing). California Form 565 is their partnership return. Regarding Form 8832, you don't need to file it now since you're already defaulting to partnership status. Filing it at this point would just create unnecessary paperwork. The IRS automatically treats multi-member LLCs as partnerships for tax purposes unless you elect otherwise, so you're good to proceed directly with the 1065. One California-specific tip: they have their own reasonable cause criteria that's sometimes more restrictive than federal. When you file your late CA return, mention that you're a first-time business filer AND that you're correcting the issue at the same time as your federal filing. California tends to be more forgiving when they see you're addressing both simultaneously rather than just fixing one. Also, make sure your California return matches your federal 1065 exactly - any discrepancies will likely trigger correspondence from the Franchise Tax Board asking for explanations.
Don't stress too much - this is actually a pretty common mistake for new LLC owners! The good news is that the IRS has specific provisions for situations exactly like yours. Here's what you need to know about penalty relief: **First-Time Penalty Abatement (FTA)** is your best friend here. Since you filed your personal taxes on time and this appears to be your first business filing penalty, you have a strong case for getting the penalties completely waived. The key is being proactive - file your 1065 immediately and include a penalty abatement request with your submission. **Quick reality check on penalties:** Yes, it's $210 per partner per month, but don't let that number paralyze you. Many first-time business owners successfully get these penalties reduced or eliminated entirely through FTA. **Your reasonable cause statement should include:** - This was your first year operating as a partnership - You demonstrated good faith by filing your personal return on time - You're taking immediate corrective action upon discovering the requirement - You had no prior knowledge of the 1065 filing requirement The fact that you already filed your personal taxes actually works in your favor - it shows you're not someone who ignores tax obligations, you just genuinely didn't know about this specific requirement. File that 1065 this week and you'll likely be fine!
This is really reassuring, thank you! I was definitely spiraling about the penalty amounts. One quick question about the reasonable cause statement - should I write this as a separate letter that I include with my 1065 filing, or is there a specific form I need to use? Also, when you mention being "proactive" with the penalty abatement request, do you mean I should submit it at the same time as the 1065, or should I wait to see if the IRS actually assesses penalties first? I've seen conflicting advice on this and want to make sure I handle it the right way from the start. Really appreciate everyone's help in this thread - as a first-time business owner, this community has been a lifesaver!
Abby Marshall
Don't forget to consider state taxes too! While the federal treatment might be non-taxable, Minnesota might have different rules for disability settlements. When I had a similar situation in Illinois, the federal government didn't tax my settlement but the state wanted their cut. Check with the Minnesota Department of Revenue or a local tax professional familiar with state-specific rules.
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Sadie Benitez
ā¢This is good advice. I'm a Minnesota resident and had a workers comp settlement (different but similar tax situation) last year. Minnesota generally follows federal tax treatment for disability benefits, so if it's not taxable federally, it likely won't be for state either. But definitely worth confirming with a local tax pro!
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Bruno Simmons
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now with a different insurance company. One thing I learned from my attorney is that you should get a detailed breakdown of the settlement amount in writing that specifically categorizes each component - back benefits, attorney fees, any interest or penalties, and the debt forgiveness portion. This documentation will be crucial for tax purposes and also for protecting your SSDI eligibility. The categorization helps show that the bulk of the settlement is just replacement of benefits you should have received anyway, not new income. Also, regarding the trust - make sure you set that up BEFORE the settlement funds hit your personal account if possible. Having a large lump sum in your account, even temporarily, could potentially impact SSDI eligibility depending on the timing of their reviews. Some attorneys can arrange for the settlement to be paid directly into a properly structured special needs trust. The fact that your attorney mentioned it's probably not taxable is encouraging, but definitely get that professional tax opinion before the money arrives. Better to spend a few hundred on proper advice now than deal with IRS issues later.
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Ravi Malhotra
ā¢This is really helpful advice about getting the detailed breakdown! I hadn't thought about the timing issue with the trust setup. Is it possible to have the settlement paid directly into a trust even if it hasn't been fully established yet? Our attorney mentioned it would take a few weeks to get everything properly set up, but the settlement might be ready before then. I'm worried about that gap period where the money would have to sit in our personal account.
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