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Do US citizens using Interactive Brokers need to file FBAR or FATCA for certain foreign-held assets?

I've been using Interactive Brokers (IBKR) for about 2 years now, and I'm starting to diversify into some international stocks and ETFs. Something just occurred to me that has me a bit worried. Even though IBKR is a US brokerage and I'm a US citizen living in Florida, could I potentially have FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) or FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) filing requirements? My concern is specifically about certain assets that might be routed through IBKR but actually held in foreign institutions. For example, I recently bought some European ETFs and some commodity futures that seem to be traded on international exchanges. Does anyone know if these types of investments might trigger foreign reporting requirements even though my actual account is with a US brokerage? I'm trying to stay compliant with all tax rules and don't want to accidentally miss something that could lead to penalties down the road. My accountant seemed unsure when I asked, which isn't exactly reassuring.

This is actually a great question that many investors don't think about until it's too late. The short answer is yes, there could potentially be FBAR or FATCA requirements even with a US brokerage like IBKR, depending on specific circumstances. For FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), you're required to report if your foreign financial accounts exceed $10,000 at any point during the calendar year. Interactive Brokers has both US and international entities, so it matters which entity actually holds your account. For FATCA (Form 8938), the threshold is higher ($50,000 to $200,000 depending on your filing status and whether you live in the US) and applies to a broader range of foreign assets. The key factor isn't who you opened the account with, but where your assets are actually held. IBKR might route certain transactions through foreign subsidiaries or custodians, especially for international securities. Check your account statements - they usually indicate which IBKR entity holds your assets.

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Wait so if I use TD Ameritrade and bought some Chinese stocks like BABA or NIO, do I need to file these forms too? My accountant never mentioned anything about this and I've been investing in foreign stocks for years...

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For stocks like BABA or NIO that trade as ADRs (American Depositary Receipts) on US exchanges, you typically don't need to file FBAR or FATCA forms because you're technically owning a US security that represents foreign shares, not directly holding foreign assets. The US depository bank holds the actual foreign shares. However, if you're using a non-US subsidiary of TD Ameritrade that holds your funds in foreign accounts, then the FBAR requirements might apply if the total value exceeds $10,000 at any point in the year. The best approach is to ask TD Ameritrade directly which legal entity holds your account and where those assets are custodied.

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Does it work with other brokerages or just IBKR? I use Schwab and they have some kind of international account option that I enrolled in to buy some foreign stocks directly on their local exchanges.

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I'm skeptical about tools that claim to do this stuff automatically. How exactly does it determine where your assets are held? IBKR's statements aren't always clear about custody arrangements.

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This sounds like BS honestly. Nobody can get through to the IRS these days, especially their international department. I've tried calling dozens of times about my FBAR questions and always get the "due to high call volume" message.

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One thing nobody has mentioned is that different types of securities through IBKR can have different reporting requirements. From my experience: - US-listed ADRs of foreign companies → No FBAR/FATCA reporting - Foreign stocks traded directly on foreign exchanges → Likely FATCA reportable - Foreign mutual funds → PFIC reporting requirements (Form 8621) in addition to possibly FATCA - Foreign currency accounts at IBKR → FBAR reportable if over $10k total The trickiest part is that IBKR might use different custodians for different asset types, and the statements don't make it super obvious.

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What about options or futures on foreign indexes? I trade a lot of options on the FTSE and DAX through IBKR. Are those considered foreign financial assets?

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Options or futures on foreign indexes can indeed trigger reporting requirements depending on how they're structured and where they're cleared. For derivatives like options on the FTSE or DAX, the determining factor is usually the clearing house. If these contracts are cleared through a non-US clearing house (which is common for directly trading European index options), they may be considered foreign financial assets for FATCA purposes. For FBAR purposes, it's slightly different - the question is whether these derivatives create an interest in a foreign financial account. If your IBKR account structure routes these specific trades through an IBKR foreign entity or foreign custodian, then they could contribute to your FBAR reporting threshold.

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I learned the hard way that IBKR has different legal entities. My main account is with IBKR LLC (US) but when I started trading on London and Frankfurt exchanges, some of my holdings were actually with IBKR UK Ltd without me realizing it. This technically created a foreign financial account that I should have reported on FBAR. I ended up having to do a streamlined filing procedure to catch up on three years of missed FBARs. No penalties but lots of paperwork and stress.

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How did you figure out which entity was holding which assets? I've looked at my IBKR statements and don't see this clearly indicated anywhere.

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You have to dig into the detailed account statements and look for entity information in the fine print. In IBKR's Client Portal, go to Reports > Statements > Activity Statements and look at the monthly or annual statements. The entity holding each position is usually listed in small text near the security details or in a separate "Account Information" section. Also check your trade confirmations - they should show which IBKR entity executed each trade. For European stocks, you'll often see "IBKR (U.K.) Limited" or similar foreign entities listed as the executing broker, which is a red flag that those assets might be held abroad. The streamlined filing procedure wasn't too bad once I gathered all the documentation, but I wish I had caught this earlier. Now I review my statements quarterly specifically looking for this entity information.

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This is exactly the kind of situation where many US investors get caught off guard! Your concern is absolutely valid, and you're smart to think about this proactively. The key issue with IBKR is that they operate as a global network of entities. Even though you opened your account thinking it was purely US-based, certain international investments may automatically route through their foreign subsidiaries (IBKR UK, IBKR Hong Kong, etc.) for regulatory or operational reasons. Here's what you should do immediately: 1. Log into your IBKR Client Portal and download your most recent monthly statement 2. Look for any mention of "IBKR (U.K.) Limited", "IBKR Hong Kong", or other non-US entities in the account details or trade confirmations 3. Check if any of your European ETFs or commodity futures show foreign custody arrangements If you find any foreign entity involvement and your total foreign account values exceeded $10,000 at any point this year, you'll need to file FBAR by April 15th (with automatic extension to October 15th). For FATCA (Form 8938), the thresholds are higher but the penalties can be severe. Don't wait for your accountant to figure this out - these are specialized reporting requirements that many general tax preparers aren't familiar with. Better to be overly cautious than face the significant penalties for non-compliance.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation with IBKR and had no idea about the foreign entity routing. Just checked my statements and sure enough, some of my European holdings show "IBKR (U.K.) Limited" as the executing broker. Quick question - if I'm below the $10,000 threshold this year but might exceed it next year as I continue investing, should I start tracking these foreign-held assets now to be prepared? Also, do you know if there's any way to specifically request that IBKR keep all my holdings with their US entity, or is the foreign routing automatic based on the type of security? Thanks for the detailed breakdown - this stuff is so confusing and the penalties sound terrifying!

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I went through this exact same situation with IBKR about 6 months ago and it was a real eye-opener! Here's what I learned that might help you: IBKR's routing is largely automatic based on regulatory requirements and market access rules. Unfortunately, you can't really force them to keep everything with the US entity - when you buy European securities directly, they often MUST go through IBKR UK or other local entities due to MiFID II regulations and other local market rules. The good news is that if you're proactive about tracking this, it's manageable. I created a simple spreadsheet where I track: - Which securities are held by which IBKR entity (from monthly statements) - The maximum monthly balance for each foreign entity - Running totals to monitor FBAR thresholds One key thing I discovered: even if your total IBKR account value is below $10K, you might still hit the FBAR threshold if the foreign-held portion alone exceeds $10K. The reporting is based on the foreign accounts specifically, not your total investment portfolio. My advice would be to start tracking now even if you're below the threshold. It's much easier to have clean records from the beginning than to reconstruct everything later when you're scrambling to file. Plus, international investing tends to grow quickly once you get started, so you might hit those thresholds sooner than expected. The IRS has been increasingly focused on these compliance areas, so better safe than sorry!

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This is incredibly helpful information, thank you! I'm definitely going to start tracking this right away. The point about the foreign-held portion potentially hitting $10K even when your total account is smaller is something I never would have considered. Quick follow-up question - when you're tracking the "maximum monthly balance for each foreign entity," are you looking at the market value of just the securities held by that entity, or does it include things like cash balances and accrued interest too? I want to make sure I'm capturing everything that would count toward the FBAR threshold. Also, do you happen to know if there are any specific timeframes I should be worried about? Like, if I briefly crossed the $10K threshold for just a few days in a month due to market fluctuations, does that still trigger the reporting requirement? The spreadsheet approach sounds like a great way to stay organized - I'm usually pretty good with record keeping but this foreign entity tracking is a whole new level of complexity I wasn't prepared for!

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