Do I need to report Venmo payments to the IRS if they're marked "friends and family"?
I'm asking on behalf of my cousin who's been doing handyman work for his neighbor over the past year. He earned around $35k in 2024 just from this side gig, and the neighbor has been paying him entirely through Venmo using the "friends and family" option, not the business transaction feature. From what I understand, Venmo only issues 1099 forms when payments are tagged as business transactions and exceed $600, so he's not expecting to get any tax forms from Venmo since everything was marked as friends and family. We're confused about the tax situation here - does he still need to report this income to the IRS even without receiving a 1099? And if so, what's the proper way to report it? Also, real talk - if he doesn't report this income, would the IRS even know about it? Not that he's planning to skip reporting, just curious how this all works with these payment apps.
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Luca Romano
Yes, your cousin absolutely needs to report this income regardless of how it was labeled in Venmo. The IRS rule is simple - all income is taxable regardless of whether you receive a tax form for it or not. Your cousin should report this as self-employment income on Schedule C, and he'll need to pay both income tax and self-employment tax (which covers Social Security and Medicare). The fact that the payments were marked as "friends and family" doesn't change the nature of the income - it was money earned through work. As for whether the IRS would know - while Venmo might not issue a 1099-K for these transactions, the IRS has increasingly sophisticated methods for detecting unreported income. Bank deposits, lifestyle that doesn't match reported income, and even random audits can all reveal unreported income. Plus, payment apps are under increasing scrutiny by the IRS. The penalties for not reporting income can include fines, interest, and even criminal charges in serious cases.
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Nia Jackson
•Thanks for the info! So does that mean he needs to track all his expenses too? Like if he bought tools or materials for the handyman jobs, can those be deducted somewhere?
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Luca Romano
•Absolutely, tracking expenses is extremely important in this situation. Your cousin should keep receipts and records of all business-related expenses like tools, materials, mileage for traveling to jobs, and even a portion of his phone bill if he uses it for work. All of these legitimate business expenses can be deducted on Schedule C, which will reduce both his income tax and self-employment tax burden. For mileage and vehicle expenses, he should start keeping a detailed log if he hasn't already. He might also be able to deduct home office expenses if he uses part of his home exclusively for business administration.
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NebulaNova
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Mateo Hernandez
•How does it work with bank statements? My bank doesn't label the source of the deposits very clearly so I wonder if it would recognize Venmo payments?
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Aisha Khan
•Is it secure though? I'm always nervous about giving access to financial statements to online services.
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NebulaNova
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Aisha Khan
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Ethan Taylor
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Yuki Ito
•How does that actually work? I don't understand how they can get you through when the IRS lines are always busy.
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Nia Jackson
•Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS. I've been trying for months about an issue with my return from last year. This sounds like a scam.
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Ethan Taylor
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Nia Jackson
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Carmen Lopez
Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your cousin was doing handyman work, he should really look into the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A). Could save him up to 20% off his taxable business income depending on his total income level. He should also consider making estimated quarterly tax payments going forward if he's continuing this work, otherwise he might get hit with underpayment penalties next year.
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Zara Rashid
•This is super helpful, thanks! Do you know if there's a minimum income level for the QBI deduction? And how does someone figure out how much to pay for those quarterly payments?
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Carmen Lopez
•There's no minimum income requirement for the QBI deduction - it applies to most self-employment income regardless of how little you make. The deduction is up to 20% of your qualified business income, subject to some limitations if your total income is very high (over $170,050 for single filers in 2024), but that probably doesn't apply in your cousin's case. For quarterly estimated taxes, the simplest way is to take your expected annual tax (including self-employment tax) and divide by four. You can use the previous year's tax as a safe harbor - if your cousin pays at least 100% of his previous year's total tax (or 110% if his AGI was over $150,000), he won't face underpayment penalties even if he ends up owing more.
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AstroAdventurer
Quick warning about Venmo - they've been updating their reporting requirements almost yearly. In 2022, they were supposed to start reporting $600+ to the IRS but then it got delayed. Keep an eye on the news because this is changing all the time and the "friends and family" loophole might not work forever.
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Andre Dupont
•Yeah, I got caught by this last year! I thought I was flying under the radar with my dog walking side gig but ended up getting a 1099-K unexpectedly. Better to just report everything correctly from the start.
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AstroAdventurer
•Thanks for sharing your experience. The reporting requirements keep shifting, and most people don't realize that the payment apps are getting more sophisticated with their reporting algorithms. Even with the delays in implementation, the IRS has made it clear they're targeting the "tax gap" from unreported income, especially from gig work and digital payments.
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Samantha Hall
I'd also recommend your cousin start keeping detailed records now if he hasn't already - not just for this year's taxes, but for future audits. The IRS can go back 3-6 years (or longer in cases of suspected fraud), so having organized records of income and expenses is crucial. Since he's essentially running a business, he should consider opening a separate business checking account and getting a business credit card for expenses. This makes tracking so much easier and looks more professional if he ever gets audited. Plus, many business credit cards offer cash back on tools and supplies. One more thing - if he's planning to continue this handyman work, he might want to look into getting proper business insurance. If he gets injured on a job or accidentally damages someone's property, personal insurance might not cover it since it's business activity.
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