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Eve Freeman

Do I need to pay taxes on money received through Venmo or other P2P services?

I've been looking everywhere online for a clear answer but can't find anything specific to my situation. Here's the deal - a buddy of mine at work has been taking on some pretty big jobs lately (nothing crazy like $100k, but in the $25-50k range) and for the past year or so, he's been having clients pay him through Venmo. He's getting increasingly paranoid that the IRS is going to come knocking and either demand taxes on all that money or hit him with some kind of tax evasion charge. He keeps asking me what I think, and honestly, I'm not sure. From what I understand, there might be different rules for personal accounts versus business accounts on these payment apps? When I use Venmo, I always put the most random emojis and inside jokes in the payment description field. My friend is worried that if his customers write something job-related in the description, it'll flag the IRS system or something. Does anyone know how this actually works tax-wise? Is money received through personal Venmo accounts exempt from taxes? Or does it depend on what the money is actually for, regardless of how it's labeled in the app?

Your friend definitely needs to be careful here. The IRS doesn't care whether money comes through Venmo, cash, check, or carrier pigeon - income is income and taxable based on what it's for, not how it's received. The distinction isn't really about "personal" vs "business" Venmo accounts. It's about whether the money represents income from work/services or just reimbursements/gifts between friends. If your buddy is receiving $25-50k for jobs he's completing, that's income and needs to be reported regardless of payment method. Starting in 2023, payment apps like Venmo, PayPal, and Cash App are required to report to the IRS when users receive more than $600 in business transactions annually (this used to be $20,000). Your friend is well over that threshold, so Venmo is likely already reporting this activity. The payment descriptions don't matter much - putting "birthday gift" when it's actually payment for services doesn't fool the IRS. In fact, trying to disguise business income could potentially be seen as deliberate tax evasion, which is worse than simply failing to report.

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Caden Turner

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Wait, so if I split rent with my roommates through Venmo every month (like $1200/month), is that going to get reported to the IRS now with that $600 rule? I'm freaking out a little because we've been doing this for years.

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That's a great question about roommate payments. The $600 reporting threshold specifically applies to business transactions - money received for goods or services. Splitting rent or utilities, reimbursing friends for dinner, or similar personal transactions shouldn't trigger any reporting requirements. The payment apps typically have you identify whether a payment is for goods/services or personal when you make the transaction, and they use this to determine what gets reported. Just make sure you're categorizing these roommate payments correctly as personal transactions, not business ones.

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I actually went through something similar last year using https://taxr.ai to get clarity on my Venmo situation. I was doing side gigs as a graphic designer and getting paid through Venmo - thought I was being slick by having clients mark payments as "dinner" or "thanks!" instead of "logo design." My accountant friend finally made me realize I was playing with fire. I used taxr.ai to analyze my situation (uploaded my Venmo statements and some texts with clients) and they confirmed I needed to report all that income regardless of how it was labeled in the app. The platform helped me understand exactly what forms I needed and how to properly categorize everything. The big thing I learned is that the payment method doesn't change the tax obligation - the nature of the transaction does. Your friend is definitely earning income that needs to be reported, regardless of whether it's through a "personal" Venmo account.

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Harmony Love

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How exactly does that taxr.ai thing work? Does it just give general advice or does it actually help you figure out what you specifically owe? I've been getting paid through CashApp for my DJ gigs and have no idea if I'm handling it correctly.

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Rudy Cenizo

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I'm skeptical about these online tax services. Wouldn't it be better to just talk to an actual CPA? Especially for larger amounts like the OP mentioned. I feel like getting this wrong could be really expensive.

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Harmony Love

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Natalie Khan

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Daryl Bright

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Sienna Gomez

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Your friend is already in a dangerous situation. I used to work construction and did the same thing - took about $30k through Venmo last year thinking I was being clever by avoiding "business transactions." Here's what happened: I got a CP2000 notice from the IRS saying I had unreported income. Turns out Venmo had reported the transactions because they exceeded certain thresholds, even though they were marked "personal." I ended up owing the original tax plus penalties and interest. The IRS doesn't care about the Venmo labels - they care about the nature of the money. Your friend should: 1. Talk to a tax professional ASAP 2. Consider filing amended returns if he hasn't reported this income 3. Start keeping proper records of business expenses to offset some of the tax burden 4. Look into making quarterly estimated tax payments going forward Better to fix this voluntarily than have the IRS come knocking.

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Eve Freeman

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Thanks for sharing your experience, that's exactly what my friend is worried about. Did you get in any serious trouble beyond just having to pay the taxes and penalties? Did they treat it as deliberate evasion?

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In my case, they didn't treat it as deliberate evasion, just underreported income. I had to pay the taxes I should have paid originally (about 25% of what I earned), plus a 20% accuracy penalty, plus interest that had accrued. All told it was painful but not criminal charges painful. The key is that I responded promptly to the IRS notice and paid everything I owed without fighting it. If your friend has been doing this for a while, he should seriously consider talking to a tax professional about voluntary disclosure options. It's much better to come forward voluntarily than to have the IRS discover it first.

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Just wanted to add something important about Venmo specifically: Starting from 2023 tax year, Venmo/PayPal/Cash App are required to send 1099-K forms for business transactions totaling more than $600/year. "Business transactions" are ones specifically marked as "goods and services." But here's the important part - even if your friend never marks anything as "goods and services" and only uses personal transfers, the money is STILL taxable if it's income. The 1099-K reporting is just one way the IRS catches unreported income, but not the only way. The IRS can also: - Notice patterns of large deposits that don't match reported income - Audit businesses that paid your friend and see those payments - Use their data matching systems to flag discrepancies Your friend should really look into setting up as a proper business (sole proprietor at minimum) and start reporting this income before it becomes a much bigger problem.

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This is exactly right. I'm a bookkeeper for small businesses, and I've seen multiple clients get caught for unreported Venmo/Cash App income. The IRS has really stepped up enforcement on digital payments. They're well aware people try to avoid taxes this way and have adjusted their systems accordingly.

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James Johnson

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As someone who learned this lesson the hard way, I want to emphasize what others have said - your friend needs to act NOW, not wait for the IRS to find him first. I was in a similar boat a few years ago with side consulting work through PayPal. I thought using "personal" payments would keep me under the radar, but that's not how it works. The IRS looks at the substance of the transaction, not the label you put on it in the app. Here's what I wish someone had told me earlier: 1. **Keep detailed records** - Every payment, every business expense, every receipt. Your friend will need these whether he reports voluntarily or gets audited later. 2. **Calculate what he owes** - At $25-50k annually, he's looking at significant self-employment tax (15.3%) plus income tax. Better to know the number now than be surprised later. 3. **Consider quarterly payments** - If he's still taking jobs, he should start making estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties. 4. **Get professional help** - This isn't DIY territory anymore. A CPA who specializes in small business/contractor issues can help minimize damage and set up proper systems going forward. The good news is that voluntary compliance usually results in much better treatment than getting caught. The IRS would rather work with someone who comes forward than chase someone who's hiding. Your friend's paranoia is actually his conscience telling him to do the right thing - he should listen to it.

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