Do music buskers need to report Venmo/PayPal payments as 1099 or self-employment income for taxes?
So I've been playing guitar at the subway station on weekends for extra cash. Been doing it for about 6 months now and honestly making decent money! I get the usual cash/coins in my case, but lately more people have been asking if they can tip via Venmo or PayPal since nobody carries cash anymore. I've probably made around $2,800 in cash and maybe $3,400 through these apps total. My question is about taxes. I know I need to report income, but I'm confused about how these electronic payments get classified. Does Venmo or PayPal automatically send some kind of 1099 form to the IRS for this? And do I need to file these electronic payments as 1099 income or just general self-employment income? What about the cash in my case - how do I report that? This is my first time dealing with anything beyond a simple W-2 job and I'm kinda lost.
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Brady Clean
You're asking a great question that a lot of performers and gig workers face! Both your cash and electronic payments are considered self-employment income. For payment apps like Venmo and PayPal, they're required to send you a 1099-K if you receive more than $600 in payments for goods and services in a year. However, these platforms only report payments marked as "goods and services" - not personal transfers. Either way, you're still legally required to report ALL income regardless of whether you receive a 1099. When filing taxes, you'll report ALL your busking income (both cash and electronic) on Schedule C as self-employment income. You'll also need to pay self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) on this income by filing Schedule SE. The good news is you can deduct business expenses like instrument maintenance, travel to performance locations, and maybe even a portion of your music equipment. Keep good records of all your income, even if it's just a notebook where you write down your cash earnings after each session. This will help if you're ever audited.
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Skylar Neal
•What if people send money on Venmo but mark it as "friends & family" instead of services? Does Venmo still report that? I've been doing caricatures at events and everyone just sends me money this way.
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Brady Clean
•If people send money marked as "friends & family," Venmo and PayPal generally don't report those to the IRS because they're treated as personal transfers rather than business transactions. These platforms mainly report payments specifically marked as "goods and services." However, you're still legally required to report ALL income you earn regardless of how it's paid or whether you receive a 1099. The IRS expects you to report all income earned from your caricature business, even if it comes through as friends & family transfers. Using the friends & family option to avoid taxes could be considered tax evasion if you're actually providing a service.
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Vincent Bimbach
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Kelsey Chin
•How much did it cost? The free tax filing options always mess me up when I try to enter my DJ gigs income.
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Norah Quay
•Did it actually save you money compared to just using TurboTax? I'm skeptical of these specialized tax services because they seem like they're just doing what the regular tax software already does.
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Vincent Bimbach
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Norah Quay
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Leo McDonald
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Jessica Nolan
•So wait, this is just a service that waits on hold with the IRS for you? How does that even work? Do they patch you through somehow?
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Angelina Farar
•Sorry but this sounds like BS to me. I've been trying to reach the IRS for months about my street vendor income. No way you got through in 15 mins when everyone else waits for hours or days.
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Leo McDonald
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Angelina Farar
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Sebastián Stevens
Just my 2 cents as someone who's been busking with a violin for years - you really need to keep track of EVERYTHING. I use a little notebook and write down my cash earnings after each session. For venmo/paypal, I download monthly statements. You'll thank yourself at tax time! Also, don't forget you can deduct things like: - Instrument repairs - Strings/accessories - Transportation to busking spots (if not your normal commute) - Portion of phone bills if you use payment apps - Business cards if you hand them out
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Molly Hansen
•Thanks for the expense list! Do you track all your cash too? Like literally count what's in the case after each session? I've been pretty lazy about that part.
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Sebastián Stevens
•Yes, I absolutely count what's in my case after each session! It only takes a minute, and I just jot it down in a small notebook I keep in my instrument case. At the end of each month, I add it all up and transfer the total to a spreadsheet. For tax purposes, it doesn't matter if you get a 1099 or not - ALL income needs to be reported. The IRS doesn't care about the source, they just want their cut! Being diligent about tracking cash now will save you major headaches if you ever get questioned about your income. Plus, seeing your daily/monthly totals is pretty motivating!
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Bethany Groves
Doesn't this kind of stuff make you mad? Like the govt wants to tax street performers who are barely making ends meet while billionaires pay nothing? Sorry but I think you should just keep your busking money. It's ridiculous to pay taxes on pocket change.
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Brady Clean
•While I understand the frustration, I have to caution against not reporting income. Even small amounts from busking are legally required to be reported. The penalties for unreported income can be severe and far outweigh any tax savings. It's worth noting that lower-income performers often qualify for tax credits and deductions that can significantly reduce what you owe or even result in a refund. Many street performers making under certain thresholds may end up owing very little in actual tax. The self-employment tax (Social Security/Medicare) is usually the bigger concern for gig workers.
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Bethany Groves
•I guess you're right about the risk. I just get frustrated with the system. My friend did get a letter from the IRS about unreported income and ended up paying way more with penalties than if he'd just reported it honestly in the first place. Still think the system is unfair to small earners though! But I reported my DJing income this year just to be safe.
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KingKongZilla
One thing I haven't seen mentioned - if you make more than $400 in self-employment income for the year (which it sounds like you have), you'll need to make quarterly estimated tax payments going forward. Otherwise you might face penalties when you file next year.
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Rebecca Johnston
•How do you even calculate quarterly payments when busking income is so unpredictable? Some weekends I make $300, others barely $50.
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Zainab Ismail
•Great question! For unpredictable income like busking, you can base your quarterly payments on your estimated annual total. Since you mentioned making around $6,200 so far in 6 months, you might project $12,000+ for the year. You can use Form 1040ES to calculate estimated payments, or make it simpler by setting aside about 25-30% of your busking income each time you perform. Put that money in a separate savings account for taxes. If you overpay during the year, you'll get a refund when you file. Another option is to make "safe harbor" payments - if you pay 100% of what you owed in taxes last year (110% if your income was over $150k), you won't face penalties even if you underpay for the current year. This works well for variable income situations.
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