Does Venmo/PayPal report busking income to IRS as 1099 or self-employment for street musicians?
So I've been playing guitar in the downtown area for about 6 months now (mostly weekends), and I recently started putting up signs with my Venmo and PayPal info so people don't need cash. It's been working great - I'd say about 60% of my tips now come electronically instead of just the traditional hat on the ground. I've never reported any of my busking income before (honestly it wasn't much when it was just cash), but now I'm worried that Venmo and PayPal might be reporting these payments to the IRS. I made around $3,800 total from street performing last year, and probably about $2,300 of that came through the apps. Do these platforms automatically send 1099 forms to the IRS? And should I be filing this as self-employment income or as 1099 income? Is there even a difference? I'm kinda confused about the whole situation and don't want to get in trouble with taxes. Thanks for any advice!
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Josef Tearle
This is a great question! For tax purposes, your busking income is considered self-employment income regardless of how you receive payment (cash, Venmo, PayPal, etc.). As for the reporting requirements, payment apps like Venmo and PayPal are required to issue a Form 1099-K if you receive more than $600 in business transactions during the year. This threshold was lowered recently, so many more people are receiving these forms now. The platforms will send this form both to you and to the IRS. However, even if you don't receive a 1099-K (maybe you didn't hit the threshold or there was an error), you're still legally required to report ALL income on your tax return, including cash that nobody is tracking. You would report this on Schedule C as self-employment income, and you'll also need to pay self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare) using Schedule SE. The good news is you can deduct business expenses like instrument costs, strings, equipment, transportation to gigs, and even a portion of your phone bill if you use it for your busking business.
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Shelby Bauman
•Wait so there's no actual difference between "self employment income" and "1099 income"? I always thought they were different things. And what about the standard deduction - does that still apply if I'm filing with a Schedule C?
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Josef Tearle
•There's often confusion about this terminology. 1099 income refers to income reported on various 1099 forms (1099-MISC, 1099-K, etc.), but it's still considered self-employment income for tax purposes. So they're not really different things - 1099 forms are just how certain types of self-employment income get reported to the IRS. Yes, you still get to take the standard deduction (or itemize if that's better for you). Schedule C reports your business income and expenses, but that's separate from your personal deductions. Your business profit flows to your personal return, where you then apply the standard deduction.
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Quinn Herbert
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Salim Nasir
•Does it work for someone who just has a regular W-2 job but does busking on the side? I make about $10k at my regular job but maybe $2k busking with my saxophone on weekends. Would this help me?
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Hazel Garcia
•Not to be skeptical but did you actually save money using it? I've tried tax software before and ended up paying the same amount I would've anyway. What makes this different?
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Quinn Herbert
•Yes, it absolutely works for people with mixed income sources. The tool specifically helps identify what counts as business income versus personal transfers (like if friends pay you back for dinner through Venmo). It keeps everything separated properly so you don't accidentally over-report or under-report your side gig income. I definitely saved money using it because it helped me identify legitimate business deductions I would have missed. For example, I didn't realize I could deduct a portion of my phone bill since I use it to process payments and promote my art. It also helped me accurately calculate mileage for transporting my art supplies, which added up to a substantial deduction.
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Hazel Garcia
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai - really surprised it actually worked for my situation! I was getting all confused about which PayPal transfers were taxable since some were just friends paying me back for stuff. The app sorted it all out and showed me that only about $1800 of my transfers would trigger a 1099-K, not the $4200 total in my account. Also helped me document all my instrument-related expenses which brought my taxable income way down. I had no idea I could deduct things like the Uber rides to my regular busking spots downtown. Definitely filing with more confidence now instead of just ignoring the whole situation (which was my original plan lol).
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Laila Fury
Listen, I spent THREE DAYS trying to call the IRS to get a straight answer about my street performance income, and couldn't get through. Someone on a musician forum recommended https://claimyr.com and their system got me connected to an actual IRS agent in under 20 minutes! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent confirmed that I needed to report all my busking income on Schedule C, regardless of whether it came through apps or cash. She also explained that any platform that processed more than $600 would send a 1099-K, but I'm still required to report ALL income even if no forms are issued. The peace of mind was totally worth it - no more stressing about an audit.
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Geoff Richards
•How does this service actually work? I've been trying to call the IRS for weeks about my situation. Do they just keep calling for you or something?
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Simon White
•Yeah right. There's no way to skip the IRS phone queue. I've been trying for weeks and always get the "call back later" message. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it.
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Laila Fury
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Simon White
OK I need to eat my words from yesterday. I tried Claimyr this morning fully expecting it to fail, and I got connected to an IRS agent in about 35 minutes. Asked specifically about busking income through payment apps and whether I needed to track cash separately. The agent was super helpful and explained that I should keep a log of ALL income including cash, and that I could deduct expenses like instrument maintenance, transportation to performance spots, and even a portion of my music streaming subscription that I use to learn new songs. Apparently as long as I'm making a genuine effort to track everything, they're not likely to hassle small performers even if the records aren't perfect. Definitely worth the time I saved not calling repeatedly for weeks!
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Hugo Kass
Just want to add my experience as a violin busker - I've been reporting this income for years. One thing nobody mentioned is that you should really keep a separate bank account for your busking money. It makes everything SO much cleaner at tax time. I transfer all my Venmo/PayPal earnings to this separate account and deposit cash there too. Then I pay for all my music-related expenses from that account. When tax time comes, I just download the annual statement and everything is in one place - income and expenses. My accountant loves me for this!
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Charity Cohan
•That's really smart! Do you have a business bank account or just a regular second personal account? And do you need to register as a business to do this properly?
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Hugo Kass
•I just use a regular personal checking account as my second account. It's free with my bank and works perfectly fine for keeping things separate. You don't need anything fancy for this level of income. You don't need to register as a business for tax purposes if you're just a sole proprietor, which most buskers are by default. You can simply report the income on Schedule C using your social security number. That said, if you're doing this regularly in public spaces, some cities require busking permits or licenses, so check your local regulations about that side of things.
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Nasira Ibanez
Make sure to put aside about 25-30% of whatever u make for taxes!! I learned this the hard way last year... made around $5k from playing saxophone downtown + venmo and owed over $1200 in taxes. Self employment tax is brutal 😩
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Khalil Urso
•Actually it depends on your overall income situation. If busking is your only income and you're not making much, you might not owe anything after taking the standard deduction and business expenses. I made about $6500 last year playing guitar and after expenses and the standard deduction, I owed very little.
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Luca Russo
I've been busking with my acoustic guitar for about 2 years now and went through this exact same confusion! One thing that really helped me was setting up a simple spreadsheet to track everything - date, location, total tips, how much was cash vs electronic, and any expenses that day (like gas to get there, new strings, etc.). For the Venmo/PayPal reporting, just remember that even if you don't get a 1099-K form, you still need to report the income. I actually got my first 1099-K last year when I hit around $2,800 through the apps, but I'd been reporting and paying taxes on my busking income since I started. The self-employment tax does hurt a bit, but don't forget about deductions! I deduct instrument maintenance, transportation costs to my regular spots, even part of my phone bill since I use it to accept payments. Keep all your receipts - they add up faster than you think. Good luck with your music!
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Abby Marshall
•That's really helpful advice about the spreadsheet! I've been kind of haphazardly tracking things in my phone notes, but a proper spreadsheet sounds way more organized. Do you use any specific app or just Excel? And how detailed do you get with the location tracking - like do you note specific street corners or just general areas like "downtown" or "park district"?
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Olivia Kay
•I just use Google Sheets since it syncs across all my devices - super convenient when I'm out performing and want to log things right away. For locations, I get pretty specific actually! I'll write something like "Main St & 3rd Ave" or "Central Park south entrance" because I've noticed some spots are way more profitable than others, even just a block apart. Having that detail has really helped me optimize where I set up. Like I discovered that the corner by the coffee shop brings in about 40% more than the spot by the bookstore, probably because of foot traffic patterns. Plus if you ever get audited, having specific location records shows you're treating this as a legitimate business.
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Amelia Cartwright
This thread has been super helpful! I'm also a street musician (mandolin and vocals) and had no idea about the $600 threshold change for 1099-K forms. I've been putting off dealing with taxes because it seemed so complicated, but reading everyone's experiences makes it feel more manageable. One question - do any of you set up separate Venmo/PayPal accounts specifically for busking, or do you just use your personal accounts? I'm wondering if having a dedicated account would make tracking easier, especially since I also use these apps for personal stuff like splitting dinner bills with friends. Don't want to accidentally report my roommate paying me back for groceries as business income! Also really appreciate the tip about keeping a performance log with specific locations. I never thought about tracking which spots are more profitable, but that's brilliant from both a business and tax perspective.
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