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Logan Stewart

Do I have to pay self employment taxes on health insurance premiums for 1099 income?

So my brother and I got into a heated argument last night about how self employment taxes work with health insurance premiums. I need to prove him wrong with some actual facts from people who know what they're talking about. Here's my situation - I switched to freelance work this year and received several 1099-NECs. I've been paying roughly $750/month for my own health insurance since I don't have employer coverage anymore. When calculating my self employment taxes, do I still have to pay the 15.3% SE tax on the ENTIRE 1099 income amount, or can I deduct my health insurance premiums first before calculating the SE tax? My brother swears I only pay SE tax on the amount after deducting health insurance premiums, but everything I've read seems to indicate otherwise. Need to settle this family dispute before I file my taxes!

Mikayla Brown

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The answer here is a bit nuanced, but I can clear this up for you. Your brother is unfortunately incorrect - you DO have to pay self-employment tax (the 15.3% that covers Social Security and Medicare) on your entire net earnings from self-employment, before the health insurance deduction. Here's how it works: Health insurance premiums for self-employed folks are considered an "above-the-line" deduction on your Form 1040, which reduces your income tax. However, this deduction happens AFTER you calculate your self-employment tax on Schedule SE. So while those health insurance premiums will lower your income tax, they won't reduce your self-employment tax base. Think of it as a two-step process - first you calculate SE tax on your net profit, then you get to deduct health insurance for income tax purposes.

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Sean Matthews

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Wait, I'm confused. So my health insurance premiums don't reduce my Schedule C profit at all? I've been entering them as a business expense this whole time. Is that wrong?

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Mikayla Brown

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Your health insurance premiums should not be listed as a business expense on Schedule C. They should be taken as a special self-employed health insurance deduction on Schedule 1 of your Form 1040. This is exactly why this topic causes so much confusion. The premiums aren't a business expense that reduces your Schedule C profit (which would reduce your SE tax). Instead, they're a personal deduction that happens after SE tax is calculated, but before your regular income tax is calculated.

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Ali Anderson

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Ali Anderson

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Update: I tried that taxr.ai service that was mentioned and it completely cleared up my confusion. Uploaded my documents and within minutes got confirmation that health insurance premiums DON'T reduce self-employment tax. The explanation made so much sense! It showed exactly where on the tax forms this plays out - specifically that health insurance is deducted on Schedule 1 of Form 1040, not on Schedule C where it would reduce SE tax. Now I understand why this is so confusing - it feels like it should be a business expense, but the IRS has a specific place for it that doesn't help with SE tax. Going to show this to my accountant who's been doing it wrong for years. This probably saved me from an audit!

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Emma Morales

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I was completely wrong about Claimyr. I tried it yesterday after posting my skeptical comment, and it actually worked exactly as described. Got a callback from a real IRS agent in about 90 minutes. The agent confirmed everything about the health insurance and self-employment tax question - you DO pay SE tax on the full amount before health insurance deduction. She explained that the health insurance deduction is taken on Form 1040 Schedule 1, line 17, and it doesn't reduce Schedule C net profit or SE tax. The service saved me hours of frustration and hold music. I've been filing incorrectly for years because my brother-in-law (who thinks he's a tax expert) told me wrong information. Glad I finally got the right answer straight from the IRS!

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Lucas Parker

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I'm a freelancer too and this confused me for years! Here's the simplest way I can explain it: Step 1: Calculate business profit on Schedule C (income minus business expenses) Step 2: Pay self-employment tax on THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT Step 3: THEN deduct health insurance on your 1040 (which only reduces income tax) Health insurance isn't a business expense, it's a personal deduction. That's why it doesn't reduce SE tax. I learned this the hard way after an audit. Show this thread to your brother and save yourself the family drama!

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Donna Cline

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If the health insurance is for your business, why isn't it a business expense though? That seems really unfair that we have to pay extra SE tax on money that's going straight to health insurance.

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Lucas Parker

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It's definitely frustrating! The IRS treats health insurance differently because they consider it a personal expense, not directly related to generating business income. They give self-employed people a special deduction for it instead of allowing it as a business expense. The tax code isn't always logical or fair. This is actually one of those weird tax quirks that costs self-employed people a lot of extra money compared to employees, who get employer-provided health insurance with pre-tax dollars. It's just one of those things we have to deal with as freelancers.

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Has anyone else heard that there's a special rule if your business is an S-corp instead of a sole proprietor? My accountant told me S-corp owners can avoid this issue completely. Something about the health insurance being a reimbursed expense instead of a deduction. Thinking about changing my business structure next year if it'll save me on self employment taxes.

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Yes! S-corps handle this differently. If you have an S-corp, your health insurance can be set up as a reimbursed employee benefit if you own >2% of the company. It shows up as wages on your W-2 (which means income tax) but is exempt from FICA taxes (which is basically the equivalent of SE tax for employees). It's one of the big tax advantages of an S-corp.

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Thanks for confirming! Definitely going to talk to my accountant about switching to an S-corp for next year. Seems like it would save me a bunch on SE taxes if I can get the health insurance exempted from those 15.3% taxes. I'm paying almost $900/month for health insurance now, so that would be significant savings!

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Yara Nassar

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Logan, you're absolutely right and your brother is wrong. As someone who's been self-employed for over 8 years, I can confirm that health insurance premiums do NOT reduce your self-employment tax liability. You'll pay the full 15.3% SE tax on your entire net profit from Schedule C, then get to deduct the health insurance premiums later on Form 1040 Schedule 1. This is one of the most common misconceptions about self-employment taxes. The health insurance deduction is what's called an "above-the-line" deduction that reduces your adjusted gross income for regular income tax purposes, but it happens after SE tax is calculated. So in your case with $750/month ($9,000/year) in premiums, you'll still pay SE tax on your full 1099 income, but you'll save on income tax by deducting those premiums. It's frustrating because it feels like it should be a business expense, but the IRS treats it as a personal deduction with special rules for self-employed folks. Show your brother IRS Publication 535 - it clearly states that health insurance premiums are not deductible as business expenses on Schedule C. You can find it on the IRS website. Good luck settling that family argument!

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Amara Okafor

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been going back and forth on this for weeks and getting conflicting advice from different sources. Really appreciate you pointing to IRS Publication 535 - that's the kind of official documentation I can show my brother to prove my point. It's so frustrating that something as essential as health insurance gets treated this way for self-employed people. We're already paying both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes, and then we can't even get the health insurance to reduce that burden. At least the income tax deduction helps somewhat, but it still stings paying SE tax on money that's going straight to insurance premiums. Thanks for the clear explanation - this community has been incredibly helpful in sorting out this confusion!

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