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Discovered rental property depreciation never taken - what to do about recapture?

Just found out a relative of mine who owns a duplex (two-family property) - 50% rental and 50% owner-occupied - has NEVER claimed depreciation on the rental portion. Their tax preparer actually told them not to take depreciation because "they'd have to recapture it when selling" and advised against it. This was years ago before I even started my accounting courses. From what I understand, depreciation recapture happens regardless of whether you actually took the deduction or not. I think the 50% they live in might qualify for the primary residence exclusion, but the rental half definitely won't. What's the best approach now? Should they: 1. Amend the last 3 years of returns to claim the missed depreciation? 2. File Form 3115 (Change in Accounting Method)? 3. Do both of the above? 4. Something else entirely? They've owned the property for about 9 years if that matters. I'm trying to help them figure out the smartest way forward since they've been missing out on significant tax deductions all this time.

Ravi Kapoor

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That tax preparer gave seriously wrong advice. You're absolutely right - depreciation must be "recaptured" when you sell regardless of whether you actually claimed it or not. It's what the IRS calls "allowed or allowable" depreciation, meaning you're deemed to have taken it even if you didn't. For your relative, the best approach is filing Form 3115 (Change in Accounting Method). This lets them claim all those missed depreciation deductions in the current year without having to amend prior returns. It's called a "catch-up" adjustment under Section 481(a). This is definitely preferable to amending returns since you can only go back 3 years, but they've missed 9 years of depreciation. Plus, amended returns might trigger more scrutiny. And you're correct about the mixed-use property - when they sell, they'll likely qualify for the Section 121 exclusion ($250k/$500k for singles/married) on the residential portion, but the rental portion will be subject to depreciation recapture taxes whether they claimed the depreciation or not.

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Freya Nielsen

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What about if they sell in the next couple years? Is it even worth doing the Form 3115 if they're going to have to recapture it all anyway? And how complicated is that form to fill out? Can regular tax software handle it or do they need a pro?

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Ravi Kapoor

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It's almost always worth filing Form 3115 even if they sell soon. The depreciation deductions reduce their taxable income now at their marginal tax rate (probably 22-24%), while recapture is taxed at a maximum of 25%. So there's potentially a rate advantage, plus the time value of money. Form 3115 is admittedly complex. Most consumer tax software doesn't handle it well. I'd recommend working with a CPA or EA who has experience with rental properties and accounting method changes. The form requires specific technical language about the change being made, and there are multiple sections that need to be completed correctly.

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Chloe Harris

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How long did the whole process take? My parents are in a similar situation with a vacation home they've been renting out part-time and I'm worried we'd need to spend weeks gathering all the documentation.

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Diego Vargas

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Did they actually prepare the Form 3115 for you or just give you guidance? That form looks insanely complicated from what I've seen. And did you end up getting audited after filing it? That's my biggest fear.

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How does this actually work? Do they somehow jump the queue? I've been on hold with the IRS for literally 3+ hours multiple times this month.

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Sean Murphy

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Sounds like a scam honestly. The IRS doesn't give anyone priority in the queue, and I doubt they're giving specific tax advice about Form 3115 over the phone. Most agents won't even touch complex accounting method changes.

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NeonNinja

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Sean Murphy

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Zara Khan

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One thing nobody's mentioned is that if your relative decides to file Form 3115, they'll need to calculate the correct depreciation basis from when they FIRST converted the property to rental use, not from today. This means figuring out the lower of: 1) Original purchase price + improvements - land value 2) Fair market value when converted to rental use - land value Then they apply the appropriate depreciation schedule (typically 27.5 years straight-line for residential rental property). I made this mistake when fixing my missed depreciation and had to redo everything. Make sure they get the starting basis right!

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Luca Ferrari

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What if they don't know what the fair market value was when they started renting it? Is there a way to figure that out after the fact? My property was inherited so I have no idea what it was worth when I started renting it out 8 years ago.

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Zara Khan

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You can establish the fair market value retroactively. One approach is to look at comparable sales in the same neighborhood around that time period. Real estate websites sometimes have historical data, or you could ask a realtor to help with a retroactive market analysis. You could also check property tax assessments from that year, though these are often lower than actual market values. Typically you'd take the assessed value and apply a multiplier based on your county's assessment ratio. Another option is to get a professional retroactive appraisal. Some appraisers specialize in this. It costs money but provides good documentation if you're ever audited.

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Nia Davis

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Quick warning to the OP - I was in almost the exact situation (missed depreciation on a duplex for 7 years). When I filed Form 3115, it triggered a correspondence audit. Not saying it will happen to your relative, but they should be prepared with good records just in case. The audit wasn't terrible, but I had to provide: purchase documents, proof when I converted to rental use, rental income records, and documentation of my depreciation calculations. Everything worked out fine in the end, but it was stressful for a few months.

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How did you calculate the land value portion? That's the part I'm stuck on with my rental. I know you can't depreciate the land, but I'm not sure how to determine what percentage is land vs building.

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