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Comprehensive S Corp Tax Guide? Need Detailed Help Beyond The Basics

Is there a decent S Corp tax guide somewhere? My current CPA charges an arm and a leg, and while there are tons of services available, I really need to do my homework to figure out which ones are actually worth using. I've found plenty of general info, but I'm struggling with more specific questions like: What services would you guys recommend? For quarterly taxes, do I need to file them if the S Corp hasn't generated any income yet? If I'm only working through the S Corp part-time, how exactly should I handle salary? Should I base payments on hours worked? Is there a specific ratio I need to maintain between S Corp income and my personal salary? In my industry, I'm noticing huge differences between consulting rates and actual salaries. Can the losses from my S Corp offset my wife's W2 income? (We're in the first year and have setup costs but no revenue yet) Or do these losses just roll forward to offset future income? For home office deductions and personal phone use, what's the proper way to allocate shared expenses like internet bills, phone bills, etc.?

I've been through this exact situation with my own S Corp. Here's what helped me navigate these waters: First, for services, I'd recommend looking into either a specialized S Corp accountant rather than a general CPA. The cost difference can be significant while getting expertise that's actually relevant to your situation. For quarterly taxes - if you have no income, you technically don't need to file quarterly estimates since they're based on anticipated tax liability. However, you should still file your annual return even with zero income. Regarding salary - the IRS expects a "reasonable compensation" which is a somewhat gray area. You don't need to pay yourself based specifically on hours worked, but rather what would be reasonable market rate for your services. The IRS looks for S Corps paying too little salary (to avoid payroll taxes) while taking distributions. Aim for salary to be at least 40-60% of what you pull from the business. S Corp losses can't directly offset your spouse's W2 income. This is a common misconception. The losses pass through to your personal return but can only offset passive income, not active W2 wages. Unused losses do carry forward to future years. For home office and phone expenses, keep detailed records of business vs. personal use. Most people use square footage for home office (office space ÷ total home) and time/data usage for phone and internet.

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Thanks for the detailed response! So even if I have no income, I still need to file annual returns? Is that just the 1120S? And then for the home office deduction, is there a specific percentage that raises red flags with the IRS? I've heard anywhere from 10-30% is typical.

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Yes, you still need to file the annual 1120S return even with zero income - this establishes your business activity for the IRS and maintains your S Corp status. Missing these filings can result in penalties or even inadvertent termination of S status. For home office deductions, there's no specific percentage that automatically triggers an audit. What matters is accuracy and truthfulness. If your home office legitimately takes up 35% of your home's square footage, claim 35%. Just make sure the space is used regularly and exclusively for business. The old "10-30%" guideline is outdated advice - what matters is documentation and actual business use.

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Does it actually work with more complex S Corp situations? I've got multiple revenue streams flowing through mine, plus I'm in a state with some weird rules (CA). Can it handle that level of complexity?

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I'm skeptical of AI tax tools. How does it handle the "reasonable compensation" issue? That's super subjective and I've heard horror stories about IRS audits targeting S Corps that get this wrong.

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Just a heads up from someone who's been running an S Corp for 7 years - the single most important thing is documentation. If you're using your personal phone and home internet for business, create a simple log of business vs. personal usage. For my phone, I just take my monthly bill and multiply by the percentage of business calls/texts (I track for a typical week each quarter). For the home office, measure carefully and take photos. Document exclusive business use. These simple steps have saved me during an IRS review.

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Do you recommend any specific apps or methods for tracking the business vs personal usage? I tried just keeping notes but I'm terrible at staying consistent with it.

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I actually keep it super simple. For my phone, I use the call log that's already on my phone and just highlight business calls once a week (takes 5 minutes). Then quarterly, I calculate the percentage. No special app needed. For internet and other utilities, I use the square footage method since it's much simpler and well-accepted by the IRS. Just calculate what percentage of your home is exclusively used for business, and apply that percentage to your utilities. Take photos of your office space and keep documentation of the square footage calculations. The key is consistency - whatever method you choose, stick with it and document your calculations.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - consider using QuickBooks Online specifically for S Corps. It has built-in features for handling owner's draws vs. salary and can generate shareholder basis reports. Makes tax time way easier and helps track everything properly throughout the year.

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Seconding this! QBO has saved me countless headaches with my S Corp. The payroll integration is worth every penny for handling the salary requirements properly. Just make sure you set up the chart of accounts correctly from day one.

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