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Destiny Bryant

Changed marital status but forgot to update W-4. How screwed are we with the IRS?

My spouse and I are kinda panicking right now. We tied the knot in January 2024 (just over a year ago) but completely forgot to update our W-4 forms at our jobs. We've both been withholding as "single" this entire time. I earn about $78K annually and my spouse makes around $65K. It just hit us that we've gone through all of 2024 with the wrong withholding status on our W-4s. We don't have any children or other dependents - it's just the two of us. But now I'm worried about what this means for our taxes. Should we file married jointly or separate? Are we going to owe a ton in taxes because we had the wrong withholding amounts taken out all year? Do we need to do anything else besides correctly filing our taxes now? I'm stressing out about this and would really appreciate any advice!

Dyllan Nantx

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Don't panic! This is actually a pretty common situation. The good news is that being marked as "Single" on your W-4s means you likely had MORE tax withheld than necessary, not less. Single withholding rates are generally higher than Married Filing Jointly rates, so you might actually get a refund. You should absolutely file as Married Filing Jointly for 2024 - that will almost certainly give you the best tax outcome. The W-4 status only affects how much is withheld throughout the year; it doesn't determine how you actually file your taxes. For filing your actual tax return, just select "Married Filing Jointly" when you prepare your taxes. The IRS doesn't penalize you for overwithholding - they're happy to hold onto your money interest-free! And don't forget to update those W-4s with your employers now for 2025.

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Wait, I thought married couples usually pay more in taxes? I've heard of the "marriage penalty" - wouldn't filing jointly mean they owe more than if they were single?

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Dyllan Nantx

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The "marriage penalty" largely disappeared for most income brackets after the 2017 tax changes. At your combined income level, you'll likely benefit from filing jointly. The married filing jointly tax brackets are generally twice as wide as single brackets for most income levels. The only couples who might face a "marriage penalty" now are those with very high incomes or certain situations with tax credits. Based on the income you mentioned, you're more likely to see a "marriage bonus" by filing jointly.

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Anna Xian

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Does this actually work for comparing different filing statuses? I've been using TurboTax but it doesn't really explain the differences clearly.

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Rajan Walker

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Ev Luca

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One thing nobody mentioned - you should also double-check your state tax withholding! Federal and state taxes are different, and some states have different rules for married couples. We had a similar situation in California and while we were fine on federal, we did end up owing a bit to the state because their married tax brackets work differently.

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That's really good to know! We're in Illinois - do you know if they handle married filing differently than the federal government?

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Ev Luca

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Illinois follows federal filing status for the most part, so if you file jointly for federal, you'll do the same for Illinois. Their tax system is a flat rate (4.95% currently), so the brackets don't change based on filing status like federal does. However, it's still worth checking your withholding there too since credits and exemption amounts can change. But in general, Illinois is simpler than states like California that have completely different systems. You're probably in better shape for state taxes than you think!

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Avery Davis

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This might be a dumb question but can't you just file as single since that's what your W-4 says? That's what I did the first year I was married because we forgot to change our W-4s too.

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Dyllan Nantx

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No, that's not correct. Your W-4 withholding status and your actual filing status are completely separate things. Your filing status is based on your actual legal status as of December 31st of the tax year. If you were legally married on December 31, 2024, you must file as either "Married Filing Jointly" or "Married Filing Separately" - filing as "Single" would be incorrect and could potentially trigger an audit. The W-4 only controls withholding throughout the year, not how you're required to file.

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Paolo Moretti

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I went through something very similar when I got married in 2023! The anxiety is totally understandable, but you're likely in much better shape than you think. A few key points that helped ease my mind: - Single withholding rates are typically higher than married rates, so you've probably been giving the IRS an interest-free loan all year - Filing status for your tax return is based on your marital status on December 31st, not what your W-4 says - For your income levels ($78K + $65K), married filing jointly will almost certainly be your best option The IRS actually expects situations like this - life changes happen and people don't always update their withholding immediately. As long as you file correctly now (married filing jointly), you should be fine. You might even get a nice refund! Don't forget to update those W-4s with your employers ASAP for 2025 though. You can use the IRS withholding calculator on their website to figure out exactly what to put on the new forms.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I was literally losing sleep over this thinking we'd owe thousands. The point about it being an "interest-free loan" to the IRS really puts it in perspective - we've been overpaying all year rather than underpaying. I'm definitely going to use that IRS withholding calculator you mentioned to get our W-4s sorted out properly. Thanks for sharing your experience - it makes me feel so much better about our situation!

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Alice Pierce

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I completely understand the panic you're feeling right now! I work as a tax preparer and see this situation ALL the time, especially with newlyweds. The good news is that you're actually in a much better position than you think. Since you've both been withholding at the "Single" rate all year, you've likely had MORE taxes taken out than necessary, not less. Single withholding is more conservative (higher) than Married Filing Jointly withholding. So instead of owing money, you'll probably get a decent refund! For your 2024 tax return, you should definitely file as Married Filing Jointly - this will give you the best tax outcome for your combined income levels. The W-4 status only affects payroll withholding throughout the year; your actual filing status is determined by your marital status on December 31st. A few action items for you: 1. File your 2024 return as Married Filing Jointly (you'll likely get a refund) 2. Update your W-4s with your employers ASAP for 2025 3. Use the IRS withholding calculator to get your 2025 withholding amounts exactly right You haven't done anything wrong - life happens and the IRS understands that people don't always update their paperwork immediately after major life changes. Take a deep breath - you're going to be just fine!

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Giovanni Greco

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This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed to hear from a professional! I've been spiraling thinking we made some huge mistake, but knowing that tax preparers see this all the time makes me feel so much better. The point about single withholding being more conservative really clicks for me - it makes sense that they'd take out more rather than less to avoid people owing at the end of the year. I'm actually starting to get excited about the possibility of a refund instead of dreading a huge tax bill! Thank you for the clear action steps too. We're definitely going to get those W-4s updated this week and use the IRS calculator to make sure we're on track for 2025. It's such a relief to know we haven't actually done anything wrong here.

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