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Brooklyn Knight

Can I file married filing jointly for 2025 taxes if I chose single filing on my W4?

Hey so I'm really confused about my tax filing status for this year's return. When I started my job last March, I filled out my W4 and checked "single" since that's what I've always done. But I got married in October and now tax time is approaching. My wife and I want to file jointly since I heard it's usually better tax-wise, but I'm worried because my employer has been withholding taxes based on the "single" status all year. Will the IRS flag this as some kind of discrepancy? Do I need to submit a new W4 first before we can file jointly? I'm getting different answers online and my coworker said I might owe a huge amount at filing because of the withholding difference. Any advice would be super appreciated!!!

Owen Devar

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You're totally fine to file married filing jointly! Your W4 withholding selection and your actual filing status are two separate things. The W4 just tells your employer how much tax to withhold from each paycheck during the year, while your filing status is what you choose when you actually file your tax return. Since you got married during 2025, you're considered married for the entire tax year, and you absolutely can file a joint return with your spouse regardless of what you selected on your W4. The difference in withholding just means you might get a smaller refund (or owe more) than if you had updated your W4 after marriage, but there's no penalty for this situation. I would recommend updating your W4 with your employer now though, so your withholding for next year will be more accurate. But for filing your 2025 taxes? Go ahead and file jointly if that benefits you more!

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Daniel Rivera

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Thanks for clarifying! Quick follow-up question - will we need to provide our marriage certificate or anything when we file jointly for the first time? Also, if we both had "single" selected on our W4s all year, are we more likely to owe instead of getting a refund?

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Owen Devar

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No need to provide your marriage certificate when filing jointly for the first time - the tax system doesn't require documentation of your marriage for the tax return itself. You'll just select "married filing jointly" and include both your information on the same return. Regarding owing versus getting a refund, it's definitely possible you might owe some taxes if you both had withholding at the "single" rate all year. The single withholding rate typically takes out more tax per person than the married rate, but when you combine two incomes on a joint return, you might end up in a higher tax bracket than either of you would be individually. This is sometimes called the "marriage penalty." It really depends on your specific income levels and other deductions you might have.

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Kelsey Chin

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - if you're married but filing jointly with a "single" W4 status all year, you might actually BENEFIT from this at tax time. Since the single withholding rate is higher than married, you might have overpaid throughout the year and could get a larger refund! This happened to me last year. Got married in August but kept my W4 as single for simplicity. When we filed jointly, we got a nice fat refund because I'd been withholding at the higher single rate. Of course, this depends on both your incomes and tax situations, but don't automatically assume you'll owe more.

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Norah Quay

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This is only true if both spouses earn roughly similar incomes though, right? I've heard if one spouse earns significantly more, the "marriage penalty" can still hit pretty hard even with single withholding.

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Kelsey Chin

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You're absolutely right about the income disparity being a factor. If both spouses earn roughly similar amounts, then withholding at the single rate often results in overpayment when filing jointly, leading to a refund. However, if there's a significant income disparity between spouses, the situation gets more complex. The higher-earning spouse might benefit from the lower tax brackets that come with joint filing, while the lower-earning spouse might experience higher taxation than they would filing single. In these cases, even with single withholding, you might still end up owing some money - though usually less than if you had selected "married" on your W4s. It's definitely situation-specific and worth running the numbers both ways.

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Leo McDonald

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Has anyone used TurboTax for a situation like this? Will it flag any issues if my W2 shows single withholding but I choose married filing jointly in the software?

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Jessica Nolan

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I used TurboTax last year in this exact situation. No flags or warnings at all - the software doesn't care or compare what's on your W4 vs. your filing status choice. It just takes the W2 info (which shows how much was actually withheld) and calculates from there based on the filing status you select.

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Just wanna add one thing - make sure to update your W4 with your employer ASAP for 2026! While there's no penalty for filing differently than your withholding status, it's best to have your withholding match your expected filing status to avoid surprises next year. The new W4 form doesn't even have a "filing status" checkbox anymore - instead it asks about multiple jobs and spouse working, so complete it accurately for best results.

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Great question and lots of helpful answers here! Just to add one more perspective - I work in HR and help employees with W4 questions all the time. What everyone's saying is absolutely correct: your W4 withholding elections and your actual tax filing status are completely independent. The W4 is just an estimate tool to help your employer withhold approximately the right amount of taxes throughout the year. Your actual filing status is determined by your marital status on December 31st of the tax year. Since you were married by the end of 2025, you have the option to file either "married filing jointly" or "married filing separately" - regardless of what any W4 forms say. One tip from the employer side: when you do update your W4 (which I'd recommend doing soon for 2026), the new form is much more comprehensive than the old one. It considers your spouse's income, multiple jobs, deductions, and credits to give you more accurate withholding. Take your time filling it out completely rather than just checking a box!

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