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Wife and I forgot to change marital status on W-4. How screwed are we for taxes?

My wife and I got married in February last year, but we both completely spaced on updating our W-4 forms at work. I make around $82K and she makes about $67K annually. We just realized we've gone this entire year with both our employers still withholding taxes as if we're single. Now I'm freaking out about what this means for our upcoming tax filing. Do we file as married now even though our withholdings were calculated as single? Are we going to get hit with a massive tax bill? Will there be penalties? This is our first time filing together, and we don't have any kids or dependents - just us. Anyone been through this before? I'm starting to panic a bit...

Don't panic! This happens more often than you'd think. The good news is you didn't do anything wrong by not changing your W-4s immediately after marriage. Your W-4 only affects how much tax is withheld from your paychecks, not how you actually file your taxes. You should definitely file as "Married Filing Jointly" for the year you got married. The single withholding rate is actually higher than married rates in many cases, so you might find you've been overwithholding all year. This could mean you'll get a larger refund than expected! However, if your combined incomes push you into a higher tax bracket, there's a possibility you might owe some additional tax. This is sometimes called the "marriage penalty" although recent tax law changes have reduced this effect for many couples.

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Really? So we might actually get money back instead of owing? That would be amazing if true. Do we need to do anything special on our tax forms to explain why our W-4s were still set to single all year?

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No special forms or explanations needed! Your tax return doesn't even ask about your W-4 withholding status. The IRS just looks at the total amount that was withheld throughout the year, compares it to what you actually owe based on your filing status and income, and then determines if you get a refund or owe additional tax. In your specific income range (combined ~$149K), filing jointly is typically more beneficial than filing separately. The withholding as "Single" often results in more tax being taken out than necessary for married couples, which is why you might see a refund. But it really depends on your complete tax situation, deductions, credits, etc.

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One thing to consider - if you both have been withholding at the single rate all year, you might actually be in better shape than you think. Single withholding rates are generally higher than married rates, so you've probably had more tax withheld than necessary. When you file jointly, you might find you're due a refund rather than owing!

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This isn't always true though! Depends on your income levels. If both spouses earn similar higher incomes, the marriage penalty can still hit you. My husband and I both make around 90k and we owed an extra $1200 last year because of this.

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You're absolutely right about the potential marriage penalty at certain income levels. At the OP's income levels (around $82K and $67K), they're in a bit of a gray area where they could experience a small penalty or slight benefit. The marriage penalty tends to hit hardest when both spouses have very similar high incomes that, when combined, push them into a higher bracket. The penalty has been reduced for many brackets under current tax law, but hasn't been completely eliminated.

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Has anyone actually calculated what the difference would be? I'm in a similar situation but make about $75k and my wife makes $65k.

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I ran the numbers for my situation which was close to yours (I'm at $78k, wife at $70k). Filing jointly saved us about $1,800 compared to if we could have filed as single. And since we both had our W-4s set to single withholding all year, we actually got a nice refund of about $2,300. Your mileage may vary based on deductions and other factors though.

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Don't stress too much about this! I was in almost the exact same situation two years ago - married in March but didn't update our W-4s until the following January. My husband and I have very similar incomes to you and your wife. The reality is that having "Single" withholding all year actually worked in our favor. We ended up getting a refund of about $2,100 when we filed jointly because the single withholding rate had us overpaying throughout the year. Here's what I learned: Your W-4 status doesn't determine how you file your taxes - it only affects how much is withheld from your paychecks. Since you got married last February, you're absolutely eligible to file as "Married Filing Jointly" for that entire tax year, regardless of what your W-4s said. At your income levels, joint filing will almost certainly be more beneficial than filing separately. The standard deduction for married filing jointly is also much higher than single filers get. My advice: Don't panic, gather your W-2s when they arrive, and consider using a tax calculator to estimate your situation before filing. You might be pleasantly surprised!

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! My husband and I got married in March last year and completely forgot to update our W-4s. I've been losing sleep over this for weeks thinking we were going to owe thousands. Reading through all these responses is such a relief - I had no idea that single withholding rates are actually higher than married rates. It makes total sense now that I think about it. For anyone else in this situation, I found it really helpful to gather all our pay stubs from the year to see exactly how much was withheld. We used one of those online tax calculators someone mentioned earlier to get a rough estimate, and it looks like we'll actually be getting money back instead of owing! The key thing I learned is that your W-4 withholding status and your actual tax filing status are completely separate things. As long as you got married during the tax year, you can file as married regardless of what your paystubs show. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread probably saved me from a lot more sleepless nights!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I just got married in January and was panicking about the exact same thing. My fiancé and I both work at different companies and neither of us thought to update our W-4s right away. I've been putting it off because I was worried we'd already messed something up for this year's taxes. Reading everyone's experiences here is such a huge relief. I had no idea that the single withholding rate is actually higher - that's actually great news for us! My husband makes about $85k and I make around $72k, so we're in a similar income bracket to most people here. I'm definitely going to use one of those tax calculators that were mentioned to run the numbers, and it sounds like we should probably update our W-4s soon for next year's withholding. Thanks for sharing your story - it's so reassuring to know other people have been through this exact situation!

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I'm a tax professional and wanted to chime in here with some reassurance. This is an incredibly common situation - probably one of the most frequent questions I get from newly married couples during tax season. The good news is that you're actually in a pretty favorable position. At your combined income of around $149K, filing jointly will almost certainly be more beneficial than filing separately. The marriage penalty that some people mentioned primarily affects couples where both spouses earn very high incomes (think $200K+ each). Here's what likely happened: Single withholding rates are designed to be more conservative (higher) because single filers don't have as many deductions available. Married couples filing jointly get a higher standard deduction ($27,700 for 2023 vs $13,850 for single filers) and more favorable tax brackets. So while your employers were withholding taxes as if you were both single all year, when you file jointly, you'll be taxed at the more favorable married rates with higher deductions. This typically results in a refund rather than owing additional tax. No penalties, no special forms needed - just file as married filing jointly and let the math work in your favor. You might want to update those W-4s for next year though to optimize your withholding going forward!

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This is exactly the kind of expert insight I was hoping to see! As someone who just went through this exact situation, it's so reassuring to hear from a tax professional that this is common and not something to panic about. The explanation about single withholding being more conservative makes perfect sense - I never really understood why the rates were different until now. And knowing that at our income level we're unlikely to hit the marriage penalty is a huge relief. Quick question though - when you say "update those W-4s for next year," should we both change to "Married" or is there a specific way we should fill it out to optimize our withholding as a couple? I want to make sure we don't end up in the opposite situation next year where we're under-withholding.

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