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Ethan Davis

Capital gains tax strategy when moving from no-tax state to state with income tax

I've been building up my investment portfolio for years while living in a tax-friendly state with no income tax (Florida). Now I'm planning to relocate to Georgia in the next 18-24 months for a job opportunity, and I'm trying to figure out the smartest approach for handling capital gains. I've got some substantial long-term capital gains in my brokerage account, around $675k in unrealized gains. Since Georgia has a state income tax of 4.75% for my expected income bracket, I'm wondering if I should just bite the bullet and realize those gains now while I'm still a resident of Florida. That way I'd only pay federal capital gains tax but avoid the additional state tax later. Of course, I understand I'd be paying the federal tax earlier than necessary and missing out on potential compounding gains on that money. But saving nearly 5% on $675k seems significant. Are there other considerations or potential pitfalls with this strategy that I'm not thinking about? Anyone been in a similar situation before?

Yuki Tanaka

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This is a classic tax planning scenario when moving between states with different tax structures. You've already identified the main tradeoff - paying federal tax now versus paying both federal and state tax later. A few things to consider: First, make sure you're calculating the true cost. While you'd save 4.75% on state taxes, you're also losing the time value of money on the federal portion you pay early. That's not just the compounding of potential gains, but also the present value of tax dollars. Also, carefully consider your residency transition. States have different requirements for establishing residency, and high-tax states tend to be aggressive in claiming new residents as quickly as possible. Make sure you document your residency change clearly - including driver's license, voter registration, banking details, etc. Finally, think about your long-term investment strategy. If these are positions you'd eventually sell anyway, accelerating that might make sense. But if these are long-term holds you'd prefer to keep, consider whether the tax savings justifies changing your investment approach.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Thanks for the insight! Do you know if there's any look-back period I need to worry about? Like if I sell right before moving, could Georgia somehow claim I was planning the move and try to tax those gains anyway?

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Yuki Tanaka

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The look-back period is definitely something to be aware of. While states generally can't tax you on income earned while you weren't a resident, the timing and documentation are critical. Some states do have provisions to prevent people from manipulating residency for tax purposes. You want to ensure any significant transactions clearly happen while you're still a legal resident of your current state. Keep extensive documentation showing your residency status when the transactions occur, including utility bills, property tax records, and employment documentation.

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MidnightRider

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I was in a similar position when I moved from Washington (no state income tax) to California a few years back. I used https://taxr.ai to analyze my portfolio and run different scenarios. It helped me understand that in my case, realizing about 60% of my gains before the move made the most sense for my situation. What was really helpful was seeing how the tax impact would play out over different time horizons. I found that for assets I planned to hold for 10+ more years, it actually made more sense to keep them unrealized even with California's high tax rate. But for assets I'd likely sell within 3-5 years, realizing them before the move saved me a lot. The analysis also helped me identify which specific lots to sell based on their cost basis and potential future growth.

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Andre Laurent

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How exactly does taxr.ai help with state-to-state moves? Does it account for all the different state tax rules, or is it more of a general calculator?

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I've seen other tax planning tools but they never seem to get state-specific calculations right. How accurate was the state tax calculation for your particular situation?

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MidnightRider

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The platform has specific modules for state-to-state moves and handles the different tax treatments between states. You input your current state, destination state, and it accounts for their specific tax rates and rules when running the scenarios. The state calculations were surprisingly accurate for my situation. I double-checked with a CPA friend afterward, and the recommendations were nearly identical to what he would have suggested. The nice thing is that it shows you exactly which lots to sell and when based on your specific state tax situation, not just generic advice.

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Just wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai after trying it based on this thread. It was actually really helpful for my situation (moving from Texas to New York). I uploaded my brokerage statements and it showed me exactly which positions would be most tax-efficient to sell before my move. What surprised me was that for some of my holdings, it made sense to keep them until after the move, despite New York's higher tax rate. This was because of their lower growth potential and how long I planned to hold them. The visualization of different scenarios over time made it much clearer than just looking at spreadsheets. Definitely worth checking out if you're planning an interstate move with significant investments.

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Mei Wong

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This sounds like a paid service. Why would anyone pay for something they can do themselves by just calling the IRS directly? Seems like a waste of money to me.

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate to talk to someone about my own state tax situation with unrealized gains. I had been trying to reach the IRS for days with no luck. Used the service this morning, and two hours later I got a call connecting me with an actual IRS agent who answered all my questions about capital gains reporting across state lines. The agent confirmed that as long as I sell while still a legal resident of my current state, the new state can't tax those gains. But they also warned me about the importance of clearly establishing my move date with proper documentation. They recommended keeping copies of closing documents, moving receipts, utility connection/disconnection dates, and updating my address with financial institutions right away. Worth every penny to get clear information directly from the IRS instead of hoping internet advice applies to my situation.

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PixelWarrior

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Don't overlook the time value of money in your calculations. If you realize $675k in gains now, assuming a 15% federal long-term capital gains rate, that's about $101k in federal taxes paid now instead of later. If you're moving in 2 years and would otherwise hold these investments for, say, another 5 years total, that's 3 years of having that $101k working for you. At a 7% annual return, that's worth around $22k in lost growth. So compare: - Pay $101k federal now = $101k total - Pay $101k federal + $32k state (4.75% of $675k) later = $133k total, but delayed 3+ years The math changes based on your actual timeline and expected returns, but don't just focus on the state tax percentage alone.

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Amara Adebayo

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Actually, wouldn't you also need to consider what you're planning to do with the investments? If you're going to sell and then immediately rebuy similar (but not identical to avoid wash sale rules) investments, you'd get a stepped-up cost basis which could benefit you long-term.

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PixelWarrior

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You're absolutely right about considering the planned use of the investments. If selling and rebuying is part of the strategy (being careful with wash sale rules as you mentioned), then you'd get a stepped-up cost basis which could be valuable long-term. The stepped-up basis would be especially beneficial if you anticipate being in a higher tax bracket in the future, or if you're considering eventually passing these assets to heirs who would otherwise face significant capital gains taxes.

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Has anyone considered the Alternative Minimum Tax implications here? I'm not a tax expert, but I think large capital gains can sometimes trigger AMT, which might change the math on this decision.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Good point about considering broader tax implications. For capital gains specifically, AMT doesn't usually present a major concern as capital gains are taxed at the same rate under both regular tax and AMT systems. However, large capital gains can indirectly impact AMT by increasing your overall income, which might affect AMT exemptions and adjustments. This is especially true if you have other AMT preference items like state tax deductions or certain tax credits.

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