Can someone please explain the "hobby income" option on Schedule C?
So I've been trying to figure out this whole "hobby income" situation on my taxes. I noticed that some people use this option when they've received merchandise or products as part of some promotion or giveaway, but not actual cash or check payments. I don't own a business or anything like that, just your average employee with a W-2. From what I understand, the only way to report this hobby explanation is through a Schedule C? It seems totally legitimate since TurboTax has it as an option. But honestly, I'm confused about when I should use this vs. regular income reporting. Can anyone break this down in simple terms? I received some free products for doing reviews online last year and I'm not sure if this qualifies.
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Andre Laurent
The "hobby income" option exists because the IRS differentiates between businesses (which are profit-motivated) and hobbies (which are primarily for pleasure, not profit). When you receive merchandise, free products, or other non-cash items of value from activities that aren't your primary business, that's where the hobby classification might apply. The reason it appears on Schedule C is because you still need to report the fair market value of what you received, even if it wasn't cash. However, there's a key difference: with a hobby, you can only deduct expenses up to the amount of income you report from that hobby. With a business, you can report losses (expenses exceeding income) which can offset other income. TurboTax offers this option because it's a legitimate tax situation, but you should be careful about how you classify your activity. If you regularly attempt to make a profit, it might actually be a side business rather than a hobby.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•But wait, I thought the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act eliminated hobby expense deductions? Isn't that still true for 2025 filing? So if I report hobby income, I still pay taxes on it but can't deduct ANY expenses?
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Andre Laurent
•You're absolutely right, and that's an important point I should have clarified. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act did eliminate the ability to deduct hobby expenses that were previously deductible as miscellaneous itemized deductions. For the current tax year, you must still report any hobby income, but you cannot deduct expenses associated with that hobby. This makes the distinction between hobby and business even more important now. If your activity qualifies as a business, you can still deduct ordinary and necessary business expenses on Schedule C. But if it's truly just a hobby, you'll report the income without the benefit of offsetting it with related expenses.
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Jamal Washington
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Mei Wong
•Did it actually tell you which specific forms to file? I sell stuff on Etsy but super inconsistently, like maybe $600 last year. Sometimes I make a tiny profit, sometimes not. Would it help with my situation?
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Liam Fitzgerald
•That sounds kinda suspicious tbh... how does it know better than a real accountant? I thought these hobby vs business decisions were really subjective and based on a bunch of different factors. Can a computer really make that call?
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Jamal Washington
•It generates a specific list of forms you need based on your situation, including Schedule C and any other supporting documentation. For Etsy selling with inconsistent income, it would be perfect because it evaluates whether your activity meets the nine factors the IRS uses to determine profit motive, even with sporadic sales. The AI actually reviews tax court precedents and IRS guidance to make its determination, not just guessing. It's not making subjective decisions - it's applying the established legal tests based on the specific information you provide about your activities. I was skeptical too, but it cited specific sections of tax code and relevant cases that applied to my situation. Way more detailed than what my previous accountant told me.
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Liam Fitzgerald
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PixelWarrior
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Amara Adebayo
•How does that even work? The IRS phone system is completely broken - I literally tried calling 14 times last year. Is this just paying someone to wait on hold for you or something?
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Giovanni Rossi
•Yeah right. Nothing gets you through to the IRS faster. They're understaffed by like thousands of people. This sounds like a complete scam to get desperate people's money. Did you actually talk to a real IRS agent or just someone pretending to be one?
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PixelWarrior
•It uses a combination of automated systems and algorithms to navigate the IRS phone tree during low-volume times. It essentially holds your place in line, then calls you when it's about to connect with an agent. It's not someone physically waiting on hold for you - it's a tech solution to a frustrating problem. I definitely spoke with a real IRS agent - they verified my identity with all the standard IRS security questions, had full access to my tax records, and gave me information that matched exactly what was on the IRS website (but with more detail and personalization). The difference is I didn't have to waste hours on hold. The IRS is understaffed, but they do answer phones - the problem is the ridiculous wait times that most people can't manage.
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Giovanni Rossi
I need to eat my words about Claimyr being a scam. After my skeptical comment, I was still desperate to talk to someone at the IRS about my hobby income situation (I make custom cosplay outfits that I sometimes sell), so I tried it. I was SHOCKED when I got a call back about 40 minutes later saying an IRS agent was on the line. The agent walked me through exactly how to report my cosplay income and expenses, confirmed that in my case it actually qualifies as a business not a hobby because I'm trying to make a profit consistently, even though I haven't been successful yet. She explained the "3 out of 5 years" profit test and gave me specific advice on what records to keep. Saved me from making a potentially expensive mistake on my taxes. The service actually works!
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Fatima Al-Mansour
Quick tip from experience: If you're on the fence about hobby vs business, document EVERYTHING that shows you're trying to make a profit. Keep receipts, mileage logs if you travel to sell items, take photos of your workspace, save emails with customers, etc. The IRS looks at your "profit motive" above all else. If you get audited and can show you were seriously trying to make money (even if you weren't successful), you're more likely to keep your business classification.
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MidnightRider
•How many years can you report losses before the IRS automatically considers it a hobby? I've heard people say 3 years, others say 5 years. My side gig selling 3D printed items hasn't been profitable yet but I'm still building inventory and customers.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
•The general guideline is that you should show a profit in at least 3 out of 5 consecutive years to avoid automatic classification as a hobby. However, this isn't an absolute rule. If you've had losses for more than 2 years, you'll want to document all the ways you're working toward profitability. For your 3D printing business, keep detailed records of your marketing efforts, any classes or training you've taken to improve your products, adjustments you've made to pricing, and your business plan showing projected path to profitability. Even with multiple years of losses, you can still maintain business status if you can prove legitimate profit motive and that you're running the activity in a businesslike manner.
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Dylan Evans
For those confused about hobby vs business reporting, here's the simplest way to think about it: BUSINESS: You're doing something with the primary goal of making money, even if you also enjoy it. You're making decisions to maximize profits. You can deduct ALL legitimate business expenses, even if they exceed your income. HOBBY: You're doing something primarily for fun or personal fulfillment. Making money is secondary. You must report ALL income, but after 2018 tax law changes, you CANNOT deduct ANY expenses.
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Sofia Gomez
•Omg thank you for making it so clear!! So if I received free beauty products worth about $500 to review on my tiny instagram (like 900 followers lol) and I'm not really trying to make this a career, just doing it for fun... that would be hobby income and I'd owe taxes on the full $500 value with no deductions?
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