Can W2 Remote Workers Deduct Car Lease Payments for Rental Property Management?
Hey everyone, got a tax question that's been driving me crazy. I'm currently a W-2 employee working fully remote from home. I also own a rental property about 2.5 hours away that I manage myself. Most of the miles I put on my car each year are from driving to handle maintenance and management of this rental property - I basically serve as both property manager and handyman for the place. My husband is in the same boat - he also works remotely and helps with the rental property, but he drives even less than I do for personal stuff. We're thinking about leasing two new vehicles, and I'm wondering if we can deduct the lease payments from our rental income based on the percentage of business use. For example, if 70% of my mileage is for the rental property management, can I deduct 70% of the lease payments against my passive rental income? Is that basically how it works? I want to make sure I understand the rules correctly before making any decisions about these leases. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Zoe Wang
Yes, you can potentially deduct a portion of your vehicle expenses related to your rental property activities, but there are some important details to understand. When you use a vehicle for both personal and rental property business, you have two options for deducting expenses: the standard mileage rate or actual expenses method. With leased vehicles, there are special considerations. For the actual expenses method (which includes lease payments), you'd calculate the percentage of business use based on miles driven for rental activities divided by total miles driven. Then you can deduct that percentage of your lease payments, insurance, gas, maintenance, etc. However, with leased vehicles, you may need to use something called the "lease inclusion amount" which might reduce your deduction somewhat. Keep detailed mileage logs documenting the purpose, date, and miles for each rental-related trip. Without good records, the IRS could disallow your deductions if audited. One more thing - these expenses would be reported on Schedule E with your other rental expenses, not on Schedule C, since rental activities are different from self-employment.
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Connor Richards
•Thanks for explaining this! Quick question - how exactly do I calculate the "lease inclusion amount" you mentioned? And does this apply to all leased vehicles or only luxury ones? We're looking at mid-range SUVs, nothing fancy.
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Zoe Wang
•The lease inclusion amount applies when you lease a vehicle that exceeds certain IRS value thresholds. For vehicles first leased in 2023, the threshold started at $60,000. You'd use IRS tables (in Publication 463) to find the inclusion amount based on the vehicle's fair market value and when you started the lease. For mid-range SUVs below that threshold, you likely won't have a lease inclusion amount. But always check the current year's IRS guidelines because these thresholds change. The inclusion amount essentially reduces your deduction to account for the luxury element of higher-end vehicles.
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Steven Adams
•Does it actually help figure out if you should do the standard mileage rate vs actual expenses? I'm never sure which one gives me the better deduction and I'm terrible at keeping track of all the little expenses.
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Samantha Howard
One thing nobody mentioned yet - make sure you're being realistic about that business use percentage. If you're claiming 70% business use, the IRS might flag that as suspiciously high for a rental property that's 2.5 hours away. I'd recommend keeping an absolutely meticulous mileage log with dates, exact mileage, and the specific rental-related purpose of each trip. Also document any additional stops for supplies or other rental-related activities. The IRS loves to challenge vehicle deductions, especially with rental properties, so you want your documentation to be bulletproof.
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Aidan Hudson
•That's a really good point about the percentage seeming high. I hadn't thought about that. Do you have any recommendations for a good app or system to track mileage? I'm terrible about remembering to log trips.
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Samantha Howard
•MileIQ and Everlance are both great apps for tracking mileage automatically. They run in the background on your phone and detect when you're driving. At the end of each trip, you just swipe right for business or left for personal. Super simple and creates IRS-ready reports. For your situation, I'd also recommend taking photos of receipts for any supplies you purchase during these trips and noting any additional rental-related stops. The more documentation you have connecting these trips directly to your rental business, the better position you'll be in if questioned.
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Megan D'Acosta
Wait, I'm confused about something. If both you and your spouse are W2 employees, aren't you limited by the 2018 tax law changes that eliminated miscellaneous itemized deductions for unreimbursed employee expenses? Or does that not apply since this is for rental property?
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Sarah Ali
•The rental property expenses would go on Schedule E as rental expenses, not as unreimbursed employee expenses. The 2018 tax law changes (TCJA) didn't eliminate deductions for legitimate rental property expenses. Since they're managing their own rental property, the vehicle expenses related to that rental activity are deductible on Schedule E regardless of their W2 status for their day jobs. The key is properly allocating and documenting what portion of vehicle use is specifically for the rental activities versus personal use.
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