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Douglas Foster

Is a vehicle lease for business purposes 100% deductible or not?

Hey tax people - I'm trying to figure out if I can deduct my entire car lease on my business taxes. I started a small consulting business this year and leased a Toyota Camry primarily for client visits and business errands. It's not a luxury vehicle or anything crazy expensive (about $375/month). I'm getting conflicting advice from friends - some say I can deduct 100% if it's exclusively for business, others say the IRS always limits vehicle deductions regardless. I keep a mileage log showing business vs personal use (it's honestly like 90% business at this point), but I'm confused about whether I should be deducting the actual lease payments or tracking mileage instead. This is my first year with this setup and I want to make sure I'm maximizing deductions while staying compliant. Any guidance would be super appreciated!

Nina Chan

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You actually have two different options for deducting business vehicle expenses, and you need to choose which works better for your situation. Option 1: Standard Mileage Rate - With this method, you track all your business miles and multiply by the IRS rate (65.5 cents per mile for 2023). This is simpler but you can't deduct the actual lease payments - the mileage rate covers everything (gas, maintenance, depreciation, lease costs). Option 2: Actual Expenses - You track all actual costs (lease payments, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc.) and then deduct the business percentage. So if your vehicle is used 90% for business, you can deduct 90% of these expenses, not 100%. Important notes: If you choose the standard mileage rate in the first year, you can switch between methods later. But if you choose actual expenses in the first year, you're generally locked into that method. Also, there are additional limits on luxury vehicles - but your Toyota Camry shouldn't trigger those. Either way, keep detailed records of your business vs. personal use percentage!

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Ruby Knight

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If I go with the actual expenses method, are there any specific lease-related limitations I should know about? I've heard something about lease inclusion amounts that might reduce what I can deduct?

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Nina Chan

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Yes, there is something called a "lease inclusion amount" that might apply depending on the fair market value of your vehicle. This is basically the IRS's way of preventing businesses from deducting high-end leases without limitation. For more moderately priced vehicles like your Toyota Camry, you likely won't need to worry about this unless its fair market value exceeds the IRS threshold (around $51,000 for vehicles placed in service in 2023). If your vehicle is below this threshold, you can simply deduct the business percentage of your actual lease payments without calculating a lease inclusion amount.

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Just a heads up - if your vehicle is over a certain weight (6,000 pounds gross vehicle weight), different rules apply. Some SUVs and trucks qualify for Section 179 expensing which could make a purchase more advantageous than a lease in certain situations. Something to consider if you're still deciding on your vehicle.

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How do you find out the exact "gross vehicle weight" of your car? Is that in the manual or something? I have a Ford Explorer and wondering if I qualify.

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You can find the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) on a sticker inside the driver's side door jamb. It's usually listed on a manufacturer's label there. For a Ford Explorer, it depends on the specific model and year - some of the larger models do exceed 6,000 pounds GVWR, but many don't. You can also check your owner's manual or contact your dealer with your VIN number. This weight is the manufacturer's designated total loaded weight capacity, not the vehicle's weight when empty, which is an important distinction.

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Emma Morales

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Don't forget about the luxury auto limits for 2023! Even with actual expenses, the IRS caps depreciation for passenger vehicles. For cars first placed in service during 2023, the limits for passenger automobiles are $20,200 for the first year. This gets complicated with leases which is why they have the "lease inclusion amount" thing that someone mentioned.

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Is a Toyota Camry considered a "luxury auto" by IRS standards though? I thought that only applied to like BMW and Mercedes type cars?

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