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Aisha Rahman

Car lease tax write off possibilities for full time financial services employee

Hey tax folks, I've been wondering about potential tax deductions for my car lease. I work full-time for a financial services company (not self-employed or a business owner), and I use my leased vehicle primarily for commuting to my office but also frequently to meet with prospective clients around the city. I'm trying to figure out if I can write off any portion of my car lease on my taxes. Would the fact that I use it partly for client meetings allow me to deduct something? And if so, what percentage would be reasonable considering most of my driving is for daily commuting with maybe 2-3 client meetings per week? My manager mentioned something about this being a possibility, but I wanted to check with people who actually know tax stuff. Any insights would be super helpful before I start planning for next year's taxes!

Ethan Wilson

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Unfortunately, the news isn't great for your situation. As a full-time employee (W-2 worker), you generally can't deduct car expenses - including leases - on your personal tax return anymore. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act eliminated most unreimbursed employee business expenses deductions starting in 2018. Your daily commute to your regular workplace is considered personal use and was never deductible even under the old rules. The client meetings might have qualified as a business expense in the past, but not anymore unless your employer isn't reimbursing you for these expenses. Instead of trying to deduct these costs yourself, your best option is to ask your employer about their reimbursement policy. Many companies have accountable plans where they can reimburse you tax-free for business-related driving (typically using the standard mileage rate). You should track your business miles carefully and submit them through your company's expense system.

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Yuki Sato

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But what if their company offers a car allowance instead of direct reimbursement? Would that be different tax-wise? Also, does it matter if OP is in sales where client meetings are a huge part of the job description?

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Ethan Wilson

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If the company provides a car allowance, that's typically considered taxable income to the employee. It will show up on your W-2 and you'll pay taxes on it - it's essentially just additional compensation. This is different from an accountable reimbursement plan where you submit actual expenses or mileage logs and get reimbursed tax-free. Being in sales doesn't fundamentally change this situation. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act suspended miscellaneous itemized deductions subject to the 2% floor until 2025, which includes unreimbursed employee business expenses regardless of your job function. Even high-commission salespeople who are W-2 employees can't deduct these expenses currently on their personal returns.

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Mei Liu

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Here's another angle to consider - if you're using the car for work beyond your regular job (like a side gig or consulting), you might be able to deduct the business portion. I work full-time but also have an LLC for consulting, and I track my mileage for each client visit for my side business. I deduct that percentage of my auto expenses on Schedule C. The key is having legitimate self-employment income and keeping meticulous records. I use an app that tracks every trip and categorizes it as personal or business. Makes it super easy come tax time.

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Aisha Rahman

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That's interesting! I've actually been thinking about doing some financial consulting on the side. How much of a side business do you need to have for this to be legitimate? And do you need to form an actual LLC, or could you just report the income on a Schedule C?

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Mei Liu

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You don't necessarily need a formal LLC - that's just what I chose for liability protection. You can absolutely report side business income and expenses on Schedule C as a sole proprietor without forming any legal entity. As for how much business you need, there's no specific threshold, but the IRS does look for a profit motive. Generally, if you show a profit in 3 out of 5 years, they consider it a legitimate business rather than a hobby. Start tracking all business mileage from day one with a good app or logbook, noting the date, starting/ending mileage, purpose, and client. Just make sure you're only deducting the portion used specifically for your side business, not your main employment.

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Question about the standard mileage rate vs. actual expenses for a lease - which one is usually better? I've heard you have to use actual expenses for leases, but then someone else told me you can choose either method. Which is true?

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Amara Nwosu

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For leases, you can actually use either method (standard mileage or actual expenses), but there's a catch: if you choose standard mileage in the first year, you can switch between methods in later years. But if you use actual expenses in the first year, you're stuck with that method for the duration of the lease. Most people find the standard mileage rate (65.5 cents per mile for 2023) simpler since you just track miles rather than every expense. But actual expenses might be better for luxury vehicles or in high-cost areas. Do a calculation both ways for your first year to see which gives you the bigger deduction.

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