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Malik Johnson

Self employed mileage deduction - what counts for work travel vs commuting?

I've been trying to figure out this mileage deduction thing for my self-employment and I'm honestly confused. I was reading some IRS stuff recently that says even if you're self-employed, the trip to and from your first work location is still considered "commuting" and those miles aren't deductible. But then I read that the IRS allows you to deduct the entire cost of ownership and operation of a business vehicle. So I'm wondering - if I designate my car as a "business vehicle," does that mean I can deduct EVERY mile I drive in it, including commuting? That doesn't seem right, but I'm not understanding where the line is drawn. If my car is 100% for business use, why wouldn't all miles count? Am I missing something obvious here? Really appreciate any help sorting this out.

The confusion is totally understandable! Here's the deal: even for self-employed folks, the IRS makes a distinction between "commuting" miles and "business" miles, and they're pretty strict about it. If you have a regular office or place of business outside your home, driving there and back is still considered commuting (non-deductible). What IS deductible is driving from your main workplace to other business locations, client sites, or business errands during the day. Where this gets different - if your main office is a qualifying home office, then driving from home to client sites, meetings, or other work locations can be deductible since you're traveling from one business location (home office) to another. As for designating a vehicle as 100% business use - you can only do this if you use it EXCLUSIVELY for business purposes (never for personal trips). Even then, commuting miles are still non-deductible. Most self-employed people use their vehicles for both business and personal use, which means tracking business miles and taking a proportional deduction.

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Ravi Sharma

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That makes sense but how exactly does this work if I'm a real estate agent? I work from home and then drive to different properties throughout the day. Are all those miles deductible since my starting point is my home office?

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Yes, that's a perfect example of when miles become deductible! Since you have a qualifying home office that serves as your principal place of business, when you leave your home to drive to properties, those miles are considered business travel, not commuting. You're traveling from one business location (home office) to another business location (properties). Just make sure your home office qualifies under IRS rules - generally meaning it's used exclusively and regularly for business, is your principal place of business, and you use it for substantial administrative activities. Keep a detailed mileage log showing dates, destinations, starting/ending odometer readings, and business purpose for each trip.

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Omar Zaki

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Does it actually work with locations and maps? Like can I just upload my Google timeline history and it figures out which trips were business vs personal?

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AstroAce

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I'm skeptical about tools like this. Couldn't you just read the IRS publications and figure it out yourself? What makes this better than TurboTax's self-employment section?

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Freya Thomsen

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It does work with location data! You can connect it to apps that track your driving or upload data from Google timeline, and it will analyze your regular patterns to help identify business vs. personal trips. It even has a feature that lets you quickly categorize recurring destinations. What makes it different from just reading IRS publications is that it applies those complex rules to your specific situation. Unlike TurboTax which just asks for your total business miles, taxr.ai actually helps you determine which miles qualify in the first place. It's more about getting the classification right before you even start your tax forms. The visual reports showing which driving patterns are deductible were super helpful for me.

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Just wanted to add something nobody's mentioned yet - if you're deciding between taking actual expenses vs. the standard mileage rate (58.5 cents per mile in 2024), remember that if you choose actual expenses in the first year, you're locked into that method for the life of that vehicle. If you use standard mileage the first year, you can switch back and forth in later years. Also, don't forget parking fees and tolls! Those are deductible as separate expenses no matter which method you use.

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Malik Johnson

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Thanks for mentioning this! Do you know if the standard mileage rate is expected to change for 2025? And is there any advantage to using actual expenses vs standard mileage for a newer vehicle?

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The IRS hasn't announced the 2025 rate yet - they typically do that in December. It's likely to increase given inflation trends, but I can't say by how much. For your second question, newer vehicles with higher costs often benefit more from the actual expense method, especially if you have a larger, more expensive vehicle with poor gas mileage. However, the standard mileage rate is much simpler record-keeping wise. With actual expenses, you need to track everything - gas, insurance, repairs, depreciation, etc. - and then calculate the business-use percentage. If your vehicle is fuel-efficient and relatively inexpensive to maintain, the standard rate is often better and definitely easier.

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The key thing missing from this whole conversation is the home office deduction. If u have a qualifying home office, then u can deduct miles from home to work sites because ur traveling from one business location to another. Without a qualifying home office, ur always "commuting" to the first location. So before worrying about vehicle deduction, make sure u have a legitimate home office (used regularly and exclusively for business). My accountant verified this saved me like $3800 last year on my taxes.

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Zara Ahmed

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This is the correct answer! I do handyman work and was able to deduct all my miles between jobs once I properly set up a dedicated home office space that I use only for business (scheduling, invoicing, etc).

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Exactly! The home office is the game changer for self-employed people. Just remember the "exclusive use" test - that room or space can't be used for anything else. You can't claim your dining room table as a home office if you also eat there. The IRS is pretty strict about this.

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Great discussion everyone! As someone who's been self-employed for 5 years, I want to emphasize something that really helped me understand this: think of it as WHERE your business day starts, not what kind of vehicle you have. If you work from home (with a qualifying home office), your business day starts at home - so driving to clients/jobs is business travel. If you rent office space or have a shop, your business day starts there - so driving TO that location is commuting, but driving FROM there to other business locations is deductible. The "100% business vehicle" thing is a red herring - it just means you use that vehicle only for business purposes (never personal trips). It doesn't magically turn commuting miles into business miles. The IRS cares about the PURPOSE of the trip, not the vehicle. One more tip: if you're borderline on whether your home office qualifies, it's worth consulting a tax professional. The deduction potential is huge, but the IRS requirements are specific and strictly enforced.

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Arjun Kurti

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This is such a helpful way to think about it! I've been overthinking the vehicle designation part when really it's all about where my business operations actually begin. I think I need to get serious about setting up a proper home office since most of my work involves traveling to different client locations anyway. Do you know if there's a minimum amount of space required for the home office, or is it more about the exclusive use requirement?

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