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Luca Ricci

Can S Corp owner with only K-1 income qualify for unemployment benefits?

Hey all, I'm in a bit of a tough spot with my husband's business situation. He owns an S Corporation (he has 85% ownership and I have the other 15%). Unfortunately, due to the economic downturn last year, his business lost almost all its clients and hasn't generated meaningful income since April 2022. The tricky part is that we've only ever taken distributions reported on K-1 forms, not formal payroll with W-2s. He had about $34,000 on his K-1 in 2021 but only around $1,300 in 2022. He's been reluctant to apply for unemployment benefits, but our savings are starting to run low, and I think it's time we explore that option. My questions are: - Can an S Corp owner like him even apply for unemployment benefits? - Does the fact that he only received K-1 distributions (no W-2 wages) make him ineligible? - Does his majority ownership percentage disqualify him automatically? Any advice would be so appreciated. We're getting desperate and not sure where to turn.

This is actually a common question for small business owners. In most states, unemployment insurance benefits are only available to employees who receive W-2 wages, not business owners taking distributions on a K-1. For unemployment eligibility, the key factor is whether your husband was paying unemployment insurance taxes on wages. Since he wasn't on payroll and only took distributions reported on a K-1, he likely hasn't been contributing to the unemployment insurance system, which would generally make him ineligible. That said, during major economic downturns, there are sometimes special programs created for self-employed individuals and business owners. It would be worth contacting your state's unemployment office to ask specifically about any current programs for business owners.

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But what about the Pandemic Unemployment Assistance that was available? I thought that covered business owners too? Is that still a thing or did it completely end?

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The Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program did temporarily extend unemployment benefits to business owners, independent contractors, and self-employed individuals who wouldn't normally qualify. However, that program has ended and is no longer available for new claims. Currently, we're back to standard unemployment insurance rules in most states, which typically require W-2 wages and employer contributions to the unemployment insurance system. That's why I suggested contacting the state unemployment office directly - some states may have created their own programs to fill gaps after federal assistance ended.

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Yuki Watanabe

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How long did it take for them to review your stuff? I'm in a similar position with my LLC (I get a K-1 too) and unemployment denied me immediately.

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Andre Dupont

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Yuki Watanabe

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They got back to me within about 48 hours with the initial analysis. The full report with all the options took maybe 3-4 days total. Much faster than I expected. There's a fee for the service but I found it reasonable considering the alternative was me continuing to bang my head against the wall with the unemployment office. They saved me from pursuing options that wouldn't work and pointed me to grants I didn't even know existed, so for me it was definitely worth it.

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Just wanted to update that I took the advice and tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. Wish I'd known about this sooner! They confirmed I wasn't eligible for regular unemployment (which matches what the state already told me), but they identified that I had incorrectly filed some of my business income and pointed me toward a special relief program in my state I had no idea about. They also gave me a clear explanation of how I should structure my income going forward to be better protected. I'm now setting up actual payroll for myself even though my business is small. Really helpful service - they actually understand the weird situation of S-Corp owners.

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Zoe Papadakis

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Mei Chen

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Something important that nobody's mentioned yet - if your husband decides to start paying himself W-2 wages going forward (which is actually what the IRS prefers for S-Corp owners who are active in the business), he won't be immediately eligible for unemployment. Most states require you to have a work and wage history over the previous 4-5 quarters before you can claim benefits. So even if he starts proper payroll now, it could be a year or more before he'd be eligible if the business fails.

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Luca Ricci

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Thank you for pointing this out! I hadn't even considered the waiting period. Do you know if there's a minimum amount he should be paying himself through payroll to qualify eventually? Is there any advantage to starting this now even if we're not sure the business will recover?

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Mei Chen

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The amount needs to be considered "reasonable compensation" for the work he's doing in the business. There's no fixed minimum, but it should reflect what you'd pay someone else to do his job. For a struggling business, even a modest salary could work if it's justifiable based on current business conditions. There's definitely an advantage to starting now. Besides potentially qualifying for unemployment in the future, proper payroll helps build your Social Security credits, allows for 401(k) contributions, and keeps you in the IRS's good graces. Many S-Corp owners get in trouble for taking only distributions to avoid payroll taxes. Starting now also establishes that history I mentioned, so the clock starts ticking toward eligibility.

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I'm a little confused by some of the responses. I own an S-Corp too and take both salary and distributions. Aren't S-Corp owners REQUIRED to take reasonable compensation as W-2 income? That's what my accountant always told me - that you can't just take K-1 distributions and no salary if you're actively working in the business.

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Amara Okonkwo

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You're absolutely right - S-Corp owners who are active in the business are supposed to take "reasonable compensation" as W-2 wages before taking distributions. It's a common mistake (or sometimes intentional tax strategy) to skip payroll and just take distributions to avoid FICA taxes. The IRS has been cracking down on this for years. If they audit and find an S-Corp owner working in the business but taking no salary, they can reclassify distributions as wages retroactively and assess penalties and interest on the unpaid payroll taxes.

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Marilyn Dixon

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I'm really sorry to hear about your husband's business struggles. Unfortunately, the other commenters are correct - since your husband only took K-1 distributions and wasn't on W-2 payroll, he likely won't qualify for traditional unemployment benefits in most states. However, don't give up hope! There are a few things worth exploring: 1. **State-specific programs**: Some states have created their own assistance programs for business owners. Contact your state's economic development office or small business administration office. 2. **SBA disaster loans**: If the business decline was related to economic conditions, you might qualify for an Economic Injury Disaster Loan (EIDL) if any programs are still available. 3. **Local assistance**: Many cities and counties have emergency assistance programs for residents facing financial hardship. Also, as others mentioned, your husband should have been taking reasonable compensation as W-2 wages according to IRS rules for active S-Corp owners. This is something to discuss with a tax professional - both for compliance going forward and to understand if there are any retroactive issues to address. I'd recommend contacting a local tax professional or small business development center (SBDC) for personalized guidance on both the unemployment question and proper S-Corp payroll structure moving forward.

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Mateo Sanchez

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I had no idea about SBA disaster loans or that cities might have their own assistance programs. We've been so focused on unemployment benefits that we haven't looked at other options. The point about reasonable compensation is concerning though - we definitely need to talk to a tax professional about whether we've been doing this wrong all along. If the IRS could reclassify his distributions as wages retroactively, that sounds like it could create even more problems for us financially. Do you happen to know how to find our local SBDC? That sounds like exactly the kind of guidance we need right now.

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