Can I write off Karate lessons on my taxes if I work in security? Need advice for deductions
I've been taking Karate lessons for about 2 years now and it just hit me - could these actually be tax deductible? I work in private security doing overnight patrols and site monitoring. The physical training definitely helps with my job performance and I feel more confident handling potential confrontations. My dad used to deduct all kinds of stuff related to his side gig as a DJ - equipment, music downloads, even those expensive headphones. So that got me thinking about my situation. The classes aren't cheap ($175/month) and if I could deduct them as a work-related expense, that would be awesome. Does anyone know if self-defense training counts as a legitimate business expense for someone in security? I've never tried claiming anything like this before. Appreciate any advice! Been doing my own taxes for years but still feel like I miss out on deductions I should be taking.
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Debra Bai
While I understand why you're thinking this way, unfortunately the IRS has pretty specific rules about what qualifies as a deductible business expense. For something to be deductible, it needs to be both "ordinary and necessary" for your business or profession. Self-defense training might seem logical for security work, but the IRS would likely consider this a personal expense rather than a business necessity. The key question is: does your employer require this training specifically? If not, it's harder to justify as a deduction. Unless your employer explicitly requires Karate training or you're self-employed in the security field and can document how these specific classes are directly related to your business operations, you'd probably have trouble supporting this deduction in an audit.
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Gabriel Freeman
•But what if their employer encourages physical fitness or offers some kind of stipend for it? Wouldn't that make it deductible since it's essentially required for the job? Also, does it matter if OP is a contractor vs. employee?
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Debra Bai
•If the employer specifically provides a fitness stipend or has a written policy encouraging specific types of training, that might help the case, but it still might not qualify as a deduction. The IRS tends to view fitness-related expenses as primarily personal in nature, even when they benefit your job performance. For the contractor vs. employee question, it does make a significant difference. If you're an independent contractor (filing Schedule C), you have more flexibility with business deductions than a W-2 employee. As a self-employed contractor, you could potentially deduct expenses that are "ordinary and necessary" for your security business, but you'd need to document how these specific martial arts classes directly relate to the services you provide.
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Eloise Kendrick
OP just to give you a different perspective - I work as a K9 handler in security and successfully deducted a portion of my dog training classes. The key was that I'm 1099 independent contractor, not a W-2 employee. I documented how the specific training skills directly related to my security contracts. If you're W-2, you're probably out of luck since the 2018 tax law changes eliminated most unreimbursed employee expenses. But if you're self-employed (filing Schedule C), you might have a case for a partial deduction. Just document everything like crazy in case of audit.
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KaiEsmeralda
•Thanks for this insight! I'm actually W-2 at my main job but I've been picking up some independent security gigs on weekends (about 10-15 hours per week) where I'm paid as a contractor. Would that change things since I'm partially self-employed? And what kind of documentation would you recommend keeping?
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Eloise Kendrick
•That definitely changes things! For the independent contractor work, you can potentially deduct a portion of the karate lessons that corresponds to your self-employment income. So if your 1099 work is 25% of your total income, you might reasonably deduct 25% of your martial arts training. For documentation, keep receipts for all classes, a log of your training hours, and most importantly, documentation showing how these specific skills are used in your contract work. I also keep client contracts that mention security skills required, emails discussing security requirements, and a written explanation of how each training element directly contributes to my services. The more specific you can be about the connection between the training and your security services, the better.
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Lucas Schmidt
just a helpful hint - i'm a tax preparer and if you decide to deduct these, make sure you're tracking everything meticulously. i've seen too many clients audited for unusual deductions. the karate expense would go on Schedule C if you're a contractor, and you'd need to be able to show it's "ordinary and necessary" for your specific security business (not just helpful). one approach is to only deduct a reasonable percentage based on business use vs. personal benefit. like if you can demonstrate 40% business use, just deduct that portion. way less likely to trigger problems.
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Freya Collins
•Does the same principle apply to gym memberships for personal trainers? My wife is trying to deduct her CrossFit membership claiming it's "research" for her training business.
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