< Back to IRS

Dylan Baskin

Can I transfer my Traditional IRA to my spouse if I'm over income limit?

I just realized I've got myself in a bit of a tax mess with my Traditional IRA. I contributed the max amount for 2025 ($7,000) but now found out I can't take the tax deduction because my income is too high and I'm covered by my company's 401k plan. My wife doesn't have a retirement plan at her job and her income is much lower, so she would qualify for the deduction. Is there any way I can transfer my existing Traditional IRA to her without getting hit with penalties? Would it work if I just withdraw the money and then have her deposit it into her own Traditional IRA? She hasn't contributed anything to retirement accounts this year. I'm worried about early withdrawal penalties and messing up contribution limits since I already put in the max. Any suggestions on how to fix this situation? Getting pretty stressed about it since tax deadline is approaching...

You're dealing with a common issue, but unfortunately there's no direct way to "transfer" your Traditional IRA to your spouse. IRAs are individual accounts (that's what the "I" stands for!). What you're describing would actually be considered a withdrawal from your account and then a separate contribution to hers, which doesn't work well for a few reasons. First, you'd face a 10% early withdrawal penalty plus taxes if you're under 59½. Second, her contribution would still be limited by her own annual contribution limit regardless of where the money came from. Instead, consider these options: 1. Recharacterize your Traditional IRA contribution to a Roth IRA (if your income allows) 2. Remove the excess contribution before the tax filing deadline (including extensions) 3. Keep the non-deductible Traditional IRA contribution and file Form 8606 to track the non-deductible basis (which becomes important later for the "backdoor Roth" strategy) The third option might actually be beneficial in the long run if you plan to do backdoor Roth conversions.

0 coins

For option 3, how exactly does the "backdoor Roth" strategy work? And would his non-deductible contribution this year mess up future contributions? I'm in a similar situation with my income just crossing the threshold.

0 coins

The backdoor Roth strategy works by making a non-deductible contribution to a Traditional IRA (which has no income limits), then converting that amount to a Roth IRA shortly afterward. Since you've already paid tax on that money (by not taking a deduction), you only pay tax on any earnings that occurred between contribution and conversion. Non-deductible contributions don't mess up future contributions at all, you just need to keep track of them on Form 8606 each year so you don't get taxed twice on that money. The IRS uses what's called the "pro-rata rule" when you have a mix of deductible and non-deductible contributions in your Traditional IRA, which is why proper tracking is important.

0 coins

After struggling with almost the exact same situation last year, I found an amazingly helpful tool at https://taxr.ai that analyzes your retirement accounts and helps identify the most tax-efficient strategies. It saved me from making an expensive mistake with my IRA contributions! The tool actually analyzed my tax returns and financial documents, then explained exactly how to handle the non-deductible contribution without triggering penalties. It outlined the best strategy for my specific situation, including whether to recharacterize or use the backdoor Roth approach.

0 coins

How does it handle the pro-rata rule calculations? That's what confused me most when I was trying to figure out my non-deductible contributions.

0 coins

Is this just for retirement accounts or does it handle other tax situations too? I've got some complicated investment stuff going on and none of the big tax software programs seem to handle it well.

0 coins

It absolutely handles pro-rata calculations! You upload your previous Form 8606 (if you have one) along with your current retirement account statements, and it calculates everything correctly. The explanations were super clear too - much better than what I got from my tax software. For investment situations, it's actually quite comprehensive. It can analyze capital gains, investment income, tax-loss harvesting opportunities, and even complicated things like wash sales or options strategies. I was initially just using it for the IRA issue, but ended up using it for my entire tax situation.

0 coins

Update on my situation - I actually tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and it was seriously helpful! It analyzed my full tax situation including all my messy investment accounts and actually found that I was better off keeping my non-deductible contribution in the Traditional IRA rather than recharacterizing it. The analysis showed me how to properly document everything on Form 8606 and set myself up for backdoor Roth conversions going forward. Saved me from making a mistake that would have cost me several hundred dollars in unnecessary taxes. Wish I'd known about this tool years ago!

0 coins

If you're still having issues figuring this out, you might want to call the IRS directly for clarification. I know that sounds painful (it usually is), but I used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual human at the IRS in under 15 minutes instead of waiting for hours. Check out how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was really confused about some IRA recharacterization rules after a similar situation, and the IRS agent walked me through exactly what forms I needed and deadlines I had to meet. Worth it to get the official word straight from them rather than stressing about possibly doing it wrong.

0 coins

Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible - I literally waited on hold for 2+ hours last month and then got disconnected.

0 coins

Yeah right, no way this actually works. The IRS doesn't even answer their phones half the time, and when they do, the agents often give inconsistent answers. I'll believe it when I see it.

0 coins

It works by essentially navigating the IRS phone system for you and holding your place in line. When an actual agent picks up, you get a call back connecting you directly to them. It's basically like having someone else wait on hold for you. The quality of the agents definitely varies, but I've found that if you get someone who doesn't seem to know the answer, you can politely thank them and call back to try for a different agent. In my experience, about 80% of the agents I've spoken with have been quite knowledgeable, especially with common tax situations like IRA rules.

0 coins

Ok I have to eat my words. I tried the Claimyr service because I was desperate to resolve an IRA rollover issue that was similar to yours, and I'm shocked to say it actually worked! Got connected to an IRS rep in about 18 minutes when I had previously wasted an entire afternoon trying to get through. The agent confirmed that I could fix my non-deductible contribution issue by filing the right paperwork (Form 8606) and explained the exact timeline I needed to follow. Saved me from potentially making an expensive mistake with my retirement funds. Sometimes it's worth just getting the official answer straight from the source.

0 coins

Another option worth considering is making the contribution to a Roth IRA instead, if your income allows it. While you won't get the tax deduction now, the money grows tax-free and withdrawals in retirement are tax-free too. We ran into the same issue a few years back when my husband's income increased. We ended up switching to Roth contributions going forward and just left the existing Traditional IRA alone.

0 coins

I think I'm over the income limit for direct Roth contributions too. Do you know if I'd run into any issues if I go with the backdoor Roth approach mentioned above? I'm wondering if there's a timing issue since I already made the Traditional contribution a few months ago.

0 coins

The timing shouldn't be an issue for the backdoor Roth approach. You can convert Traditional IRA funds to Roth at any time - there's no deadline for that part of the process. The only timing concern is getting your contribution classified correctly (as non-deductible) on your tax return. Just make sure you file Form 8606 with your taxes to document the non-deductible contribution, then do the conversion whenever you're ready. Some people prefer to wait a bit between contribution and conversion, while others do it immediately. Either way works fine from a tax perspective.

0 coins

Has anyone dealt with this where both spouses are over the income limit? My husband and I both have 401ks at work and our combined income puts us well over the limit for deductible IRA contributions. We've been doing backdoor Roth contributions but I'm worried we're missing something.

0 coins

You're on the right track! When both spouses are over the income limit and covered by workplace plans, backdoor Roth is typically the way to go. Just make sure you're keeping separate IRAs (never combine them) and each filing Form 8606 annually.

0 coins

IRS AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
20,095 users helped today