Can I really buy a Tesla Cybertruck as a business expense? Tax question
So I was talking with this super successful friend of mine last week who casually dropped that they just bought one of those new Cybertrucks specifically to use as a tax write-off for their business. They mentioned something about "avoiding taxes" by making it a business purchase. I'm honestly confused about how this actually works with the IRS. Can you really just buy an $85,000 vehicle and write the whole thing off? There has to be more to it than that, right? Do you actually have to use it primarily for business purposes? Are there limits to how much you can deduct? I'm not planning to do this myself anytime soon (definitely don't have that kind of money lol) but I'm genuinely curious how these tax loopholes work for rich people. Any tax experts here who can explain this?
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Diego Vargas
This is a common misunderstanding about business vehicle deductions! Your friend isn't exactly "avoiding taxes" - they're utilizing legitimate business expense deductions, but there are strict rules. When you purchase a vehicle for business use, you can't simply write off the entire purchase price in most cases. Instead, you have several options: 1) Depreciate the vehicle over several years (usually 5+ years for cars), 2) Take a Section 179 deduction (which has limits for SUVs/trucks over 6,000 lbs), or 3) Use bonus depreciation. The Cybertruck likely qualifies as a "heavy SUV" which has different rules. The critical thing your friend is overlooking: the vehicle must be used primarily (over 50%) for business purposes. The IRS requires detailed mileage logs documenting business vs. personal use. If it's used 70% for business, only 70% of expenses are deductible. Using a luxury vehicle primarily for personal use while claiming business deductions is literally tax fraud.
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Anastasia Fedorov
•Wait, so does that mean if I'm self-employed and I buy a truck for my landscaping business, I can write off part of it? And what exactly counts as "business use" - like driving to client sites? What about commuting to my office?
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Diego Vargas
•Yes, if you're self-employed with a legitimate landscaping business, you can deduct the business portion of your truck expenses. Business use includes driving to client sites, between job locations, and for business errands like picking up supplies. Commuting from your home to your first job site is generally considered personal use, not business use. This is a common misconception. You need to maintain a mileage log showing the purpose of each trip, date, starting point, destination, and miles driven to substantiate your business use percentage.
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StarStrider
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Sean Doyle
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Zara Rashid
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StarStrider
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Mateo Hernandez
Getting back to the original Cybertruck question - there's another HUGE factor nobody's mentioned yet. The tax code has a special provision called "bonus depreciation" that's changing in 2025. In 2024, businesses can still deduct 60% of qualifying property (including heavy vehicles over 6,000 lbs) in the first year. This is probably what your wealthy friend was referring to. The Cybertruck likely qualifies as a heavy SUV (over 6,000 lbs gross vehicle weight), making it eligible for much more favorable tax treatment than regular passenger vehicles. BUT - and this is a massive BUT - they still need to prove legitimate business use. Rich people aren't "avoiding taxes" by buying luxury vehicles - they're legally deferring taxes by making legitimate business investments. If they're actually using it personally and claiming 100% business use, that's tax fraud.
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CosmicCruiser
•What happens if you claim a vehicle as 100% business but then the IRS audits you and finds out you were using it 50% for personal stuff? Do they just make you pay the difference or are there penalties?
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Mateo Hernandez
•If the IRS determines you incorrectly claimed a 100% business vehicle that was actually used 50% personally, you're looking at several consequences: First, they'll recalculate your tax liability based on the correct 50% business use, which means you'll owe back taxes on the disallowed portion plus interest that's been accruing since the filing date. Second, you'll likely face penalties. There's typically a 20% accuracy-related penalty for substantial understatement of tax. In cases where the IRS believes the misrepresentation was intentional (fraud), penalties can jump to 75% of the underpayment plus potential criminal charges in extreme cases.
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Aisha Khan
I think everyone is overcomplicating this. I run a small business and write off my truck every year. Just make sure you have a legitimate business and use the vehicle for business purposes at least 50% of the time. Keep a mileage log (I use a simple app on my phone) and save receipts for gas, maintenance, etc. The bigger the vehicle, the better the write-off typically. If your business legitimately needs a truck/SUV, it's totally fine to purchase one and take the deduction. Just don't try to write off a Lamborghini for your accounting practice lol! The vehicle should make sense for your business type. But most importantly - KEEP RECORDS! If you can't prove business use during an audit, you're in trouble.
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Chloe Anderson
•Thanks for breaking it down simply! What app do you use for tracking mileage? And do you deduct the actual expenses or use the standard mileage rate? I'm curious which one tends to be better.
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Aisha Khan
•I use MileIQ for tracking, but there are tons of good mileage apps out there. The key is finding one that makes it easy to categorize trips as business or personal with minimal effort. For your second question, it really depends on your specific situation. I personally use the actual expenses method because I have a fairly expensive truck with higher maintenance costs, and I use it about 75% for business. This generally works out better than the standard mileage rate for me. However, if you have a fuel-efficient vehicle with low maintenance costs, the standard mileage rate might be better. I recommend calculating both ways for the first year you use a vehicle for business and seeing which gives you the better deduction.
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Leila Haddad
This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been considering whether to purchase a vehicle for my consulting business, I really appreciate all the detailed explanations about the rules and requirements. One thing I'm still wondering about - if I buy a vehicle that I use 60% for business and 40% personal, and I take the depreciation deduction based on that 60% business use, what happens when I eventually sell the vehicle? Do I need to pay back some of the depreciation I claimed, or does the business use percentage apply to the sale as well? Also, for those mentioning mileage tracking apps - has anyone tried the built-in mileage tracking in QuickBooks Self-Employed? I'm already using it for other business expenses and wondering if it's worth switching to a dedicated mileage app or if QB's version is sufficient for IRS requirements.
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Aisha Abdullah
•Great questions! When you sell a vehicle that you've been depreciating for business use, you'll need to deal with "depreciation recapture." Essentially, if you sell the vehicle for more than its depreciated book value, you'll owe taxes on the business portion of that gain at ordinary income tax rates (not capital gains rates). So if you claimed 60% business use and took depreciation accordingly, then 60% of any depreciation recapture will be taxable. Regarding QuickBooks Self-Employed's mileage tracking - I've used it and it's actually pretty solid for IRS requirements. It automatically tracks your trips using GPS, lets you categorize them as business or personal, and generates the detailed reports you need for tax purposes. The main advantage of dedicated apps like MileIQ is often better user interface and more advanced features, but QB's version definitely meets the basic IRS documentation requirements. Since you're already in their ecosystem, it might be worth trying their built-in feature first before adding another app to your workflow.
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Mateo Gonzalez
This is such a great discussion! I've been following along and learned so much about vehicle deductions. As someone who just started a small photography business, I'm realizing I should probably be tracking my mileage when I drive to client shoots and locations. One question that keeps coming up in my mind - what about vehicles that are used for multiple purposes throughout the year? Like, I use my car mostly for personal stuff, but during wedding season (May-October) I'm driving to venues almost every weekend. Would I need to track business vs personal use for the entire year, or can I somehow designate certain months as "business heavy" periods? Also, for anyone who's been audited on vehicle deductions - what kind of documentation did the IRS actually want to see? I'm trying to get my record-keeping set up properly from the start rather than scrambling later. Thanks for all the insights everyone has shared!
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Anna Xian
•Great question about seasonal business use! You absolutely need to track business vs personal use for the entire year - the IRS doesn't recognize "business heavy" periods as a way to calculate your deduction percentage. Your business use percentage is based on total business miles divided by total miles driven for the year. For your photography business, I'd recommend starting a mileage log immediately. Even if you're only doing weekend shoots during wedding season, you might be surprised how much business driving you actually do year-round - meetings with potential clients, picking up equipment, scouting locations, etc. Regarding audit documentation, the IRS typically wants to see: 1) A contemporaneous mileage log showing date, destination, business purpose, and miles for each trip, 2) Beginning and ending odometer readings for the tax year, 3) Receipts for vehicle expenses if using actual expense method, and 4) Evidence that the trips were actually business-related (contracts, invoices, etc.). The key word is "contemporaneous" - keeping records as events happen, not reconstructing them later!
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Lauren Johnson
This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who works in tax preparation, I want to add one crucial point that hasn't been fully emphasized: the IRS has been cracking down significantly on luxury vehicle deductions in recent years, especially for vehicles like the Cybertruck. What many people don't realize is that there's a specific "luxury automobile" limit that caps depreciation deductions for passenger vehicles. However, vehicles over 6,000 lbs gross vehicle weight (like the Cybertruck) are classified as "heavy SUVs" and can potentially avoid these caps - BUT they still have Section 179 limitations. For 2024, the maximum first-year Section 179 deduction for heavy SUVs is $28,900, not the full purchase price. Your friend might be thinking of bonus depreciation combined with Section 179, but even then, the business use must be legitimate and well-documented. The bottom line: Yes, you can get significant tax benefits from purchasing a heavy business vehicle, but it's not the "instant tax avoidance" scheme that some people think it is. The rules are complex, and the documentation requirements are strict. Anyone considering this should definitely consult with a qualified tax professional rather than relying on casual advice from friends!
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Charlotte Jones
•This is exactly the kind of professional insight this thread needed! As someone who's been following this conversation as a complete newcomer to business vehicle deductions, I really appreciate you breaking down the specific limitations. The distinction between the Section 179 cap ($28,900) and what people think they can deduct (the full purchase price) is huge. So even with a legitimate business use case, someone buying an $85k Cybertruck can't just write off the entire amount in year one like the original poster's friend suggested? I'm curious - when you mention the IRS "cracking down" on luxury vehicle deductions, are you seeing more audits specifically targeting these types of purchases, or are they just being more strict about the documentation requirements? This is all completely new to me but fascinating from a tax policy perspective.
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