Can I deduct rental property mortgage expenses as a loss before tenants move in?
Hey everyone, trying to figure out a tax situation with our rental property. Last June, we purchased a new home but decided to keep our townhouse to use as a rental since it's in a prime location. We moved into the new place in June and immediately started renovations on the townhouse in July. Unfortunately, Hurricane Nicole hit in November and caused flooding, which meant even more repair work. We're finally wrapping up all the renovations and hoping to have tenants by February or March. My wife and I created an LLC right after buying the new house, but the townhouse is still in our personal names, not the LLC. We file taxes separately because of student loan considerations. I've been paying the mortgage on the townhouse from my personal bank account (not a joint account) for the past 6 months. My question is: Since the townhouse became a rental property as soon as we moved out in June (even though we haven't had any tenants yet due to renovations), can I deduct the mortgage payments as a rental loss on my taxes? Or am I just out of luck until we actually have tenants?
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Samantha Johnson
You're in what's called the "not-yet-rented" phase of rental property ownership, which has specific tax implications. The good news is that once you've officially converted the property from personal to rental use (which happens when you moved out with the intent to rent), certain expenses can be deductible. For the mortgage interest specifically, you can deduct this as a rental expense during the renovation/pre-rental period if you can prove your intent was to rent the property. The fact that you've been actively renovating to prepare it for rental use is helpful documentation of this intent. However, you can only claim these expenses as deductions against rental income, which you don't have yet. This means these expenses will create a rental loss, which may be limited by passive activity loss rules. If your modified adjusted gross income is below $100,000, you can potentially deduct up to $25,000 of rental losses against your other income. The mortgage principal payments aren't deductible at all - only the interest portion.
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Nick Kravitz
•Thanks for the info, but what about all the renovation expenses? Can those be deducted too or do those have to be capitalized? And does it matter that the property is in our names but we have an LLC?
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Samantha Johnson
•Regarding renovation expenses, you need to determine if they're repairs or improvements. Repairs maintain the property and can be fully deducted in the year paid. Improvements add value or extend the useful life of the property and must be capitalized and depreciated over time (typically 27.5 years for residential rental property). For your LLC situation, since the property is in your personal names and not the LLC, you would report the rental income and expenses on Schedule E of your personal tax return, not through the LLC. The LLC doesn't come into play for tax purposes in this scenario unless you transfer ownership of the property to the LLC, which would be a separate transaction with its own considerations.
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Hannah White
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Mateo Silva
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Isaiah Thompson
Just want to add my two cents as someone who's been a landlord for 10+ years. When you convert a personal residence to a rental, the mortgage interest treatment changes, but there's a critical timing element here. The property is officially "placed in service" as a rental when it's both: 1) ready and available for rent, and 2) you're actively trying to rent it. So if you're still doing renovations and haven't listed it yet, it may not technically be "in service" yet for tax purposes. I'd recommend keeping meticulous records of when the renovations were completed and when you first advertised it for rent. That's your official "in service" date, and expenses before that might be treated differently than expenses after.
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Santiago Martinez
•This is really helpful, thanks! What kind of documentation would you recommend keeping to prove that I intended to convert it to a rental from the moment we moved out? Should I backdate anything?
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Isaiah Thompson
•Never backdate anything - that's a huge red flag to the IRS. Instead, gather what you already have: receipts for renovation materials that clearly show rental prep, any communications with contractors that mention preparing for tenants, emails/texts discussing rental plans, and photos showing the renovation progress. For current documentation, start a rental property journal noting all activities related to preparing the property. Take dated photos of renovation work, keep all receipts, create a rental listing draft (even before posting it), research comparable rental rates in your area and save those findings, and contact insurance about switching to landlord insurance. These actions collectively demonstrate your intent to rent from the time you moved out, without any questionable backdating.
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Ruby Garcia
Something nobody's mentioned yet - since you and your wife file separately, you need to be careful about how the rental loss is allocated. Since the mortgage is paid from YOUR account not a joint account, you might be able to claim more of the expenses, but the IRS could still view it as 50/50 ownership since you're married. Also, filing separately means the passive activity loss threshold is only $12,500 instead of $25,000, and it starts phasing out at $50,000 of modified AGI instead of $100,000. This could significantly limit how much of the mortgage interest you can actually deduct.
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Alexander Evans
•This is an excellent point. MFS status really complicates things with rental properties. I wonder if they should consider changing their filing status if the student loan situation allows for it?
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Evelyn Martinez
One thing to watch out for - if you don't get a tenant until March, make sure you can prove you were ACTIVELY trying to rent it starting much earlier. The IRS looks for evidence that you were making reasonable efforts to rent it at market rates. My sister got audited because she claimed rental expenses for 6 months before getting a tenant, but couldn't prove she was actually trying to rent it out during that time. Keep screenshots of rental listings, emails with potential tenants, and a rental journal showing all your activities related to renting it out.
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Santiago Martinez
•That's a great tip, thank you! The flood damage definitely set us back, but we've been working on renovations specifically to get it ready to rent. Does documenting the renovation process count as proof of intent to rent?
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Evelyn Martinez
•Yes, documenting the renovation process is helpful, but it's not sufficient on its own. The IRS wants to see that you were actively trying to find tenants as soon as the property was habitable. Take pictures of the renovation with dates, keep all receipts and contractor communications that mention preparing for rental, but also start some rental-specific activities even before the property is 100% ready. For example, draft your rental listing, research comparable rents in your area and save those findings, contact insurance companies about landlord policies, and maybe even pre-screen a few potential tenants. Creating this paper trail of rental intent alongside your renovation documentation will give you much stronger proof if questioned.
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