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Carmen Diaz

Can I deduct pet transport costs on Form 3903 for military PCS move to UK?

Hey everyone, my wife and I just got PCS orders to move from California to England with the Air Force in March 2024. The military is covering most of our moving expenses, but they won't pay anything for shipping our Labrador, Max. I've been looking at Form 3903 for Moving Expenses since I know military members can still claim this deduction. The language on the form mentions "personal effects" but doesn't specifically mention pets anywhere. Since pets are legally considered property, I'm wondering if I can include the $2,800 we'll need to spend on Max's transportation as a legitimate moving expense on Form 3903? Has anyone successfully deducted pet transportation costs for an overseas military PCS? Any advice would be super helpful since this is our first overseas assignment. Thanks!

Andre Laurent

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You're asking a great question about Form 3903! As a military spouse who's been through multiple overseas PCS moves, I can help clarify this. The IRS does allow active duty military members to deduct moving expenses when required by military orders using Form 3903. However, pet transportation falls into a gray area. While pets are legally property, the IRS typically views pets differently than household goods. The general rule is that deductible moving expenses include the reasonable costs of moving your household goods and personal effects, plus travel expenses (including lodging but not meals) for you and household members. The IRS hasn't explicitly ruled on pet transportation, but most tax professionals advise that pet transportation costs are generally not considered deductible on Form 3903. That said, some military families have included these costs without issue, while others have had them questioned during audits. If you decide to claim it, keep thorough documentation of all costs and be prepared to justify your position if questioned.

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AstroAce

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Thanks for the info! I'm curious - does it matter if the pet needs special transportation arrangements because of military regulations? My brother is facing a similar situation with his German Shepherd for a move to Japan, and the airline requirements plus quarantine are making it incredibly expensive.

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Andre Laurent

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Unfortunately, special transportation requirements don't change the deductibility in the eyes of the IRS. The determining factor is whether the expense qualifies as moving "household goods and personal effects," not how complex or expensive the arrangements are. For your brother's situation with Japan, he should look into whether his branch offers any pet transportation assistance programs. Some bases have limited funds or resources to help with these costs, though they vary widely. The Pets on the Move program through some MWR offices might be able to provide guidance, even if they can't provide financial assistance.

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Mei Zhang

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I've heard mixed things about claiming pet expenses. Did they give you any specific IRS guidance or court cases that back up being able to deduct pet transportation? I'd love to claim the $3,200 I spent moving my two dogs to Germany, but don't want to risk an audit.

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CosmicCaptain

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I'm curious about what the IRS actually told you regarding pet transportation expenses. Did they give you a definitive answer on whether it's allowed on Form 3903? That's what I'm most interested in.

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Be careful with claiming pet transportation! My husband and I moved from Fort Bragg to RAF Lakenheath in 2022 and claimed our dog's transportation costs ($2,100) on Form 3903. We got a letter from the IRS six months later questioning several items on our return, including the pet transportation. We ended up having to pay back the tax benefit plus a small penalty. The IRS agent specifically told us that pets are not considered "household goods" for moving expense purposes, even for military moves. Just sharing our experience so you don't run into the same issue.

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Carmen Diaz

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Thanks for sharing your experience - that's exactly what I was worried about. Did you have any documentation to support your deduction when the IRS questioned it? And did they only flag the pet transportation or were there other issues with your Form 3903?

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We had all our receipts and documentation for the pet transportation, including our PCS orders showing the overseas move. The IRS agent acknowledged that our move itself qualified for the deduction since my husband was active duty military, but they specifically disallowed the pet portion. There weren't any other issues with our Form 3903 - they accepted all our other moving expenses. They just took the position that pets don't qualify as household goods or personal effects for tax purposes, despite being considered property in other contexts. The agent mentioned this is a common misunderstanding for military families making overseas moves.

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I just went through a PCS from Germany back to Fort Hood last year and had to pay $3400 to bring our two cats. I asked the JAG office tax attorney about this before filing and they specifically advised NOT to claim pet expenses on Form 3903. Their explanation was that while military members can still claim moving expenses (unlike civilians after the tax law changes), the IRS has consistently treated pets differently than household goods. They said the pet transportation costs would be considered personal expenses, not moving expenses. I know it sucks to hear since pet transportation internationally is crazy expensive, but thought I'd share what military legal advised us.

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Did JAG mention any alternatives? Is there any way to offset these costs elsewhere on taxes or through any military programs? My cat's transportation to Okinawa is going to cost almost $4k!

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LPT: don't forget that while most of the military moving expenses are covered, you can still deduct anything that wasn't reimbursed! This includes things like extra weight charges if you were over your allowance, temporary storage beyond what the military covered, and miscellaneous moving-related expenses. The key with Form 3903 is that you can only deduct costs the military didn't reimburse you for. So document everything carefully, especially for an OCONUS move!

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Carmen Diaz

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Thanks for the tip! We definitely have some other expenses beyond just the pet transportation that weren't covered. Do you know if we can claim mileage for driving our own vehicle to the port for shipping? And what about temporary lodging expenses beyond what DLA covered?

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