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Benjamin Johnson

CP12 Notice Recipients - Anyone Actually Reach a Human?

Has anyone who got a CP12 notice with a reduced refund actually managed to speak with a real person at the IRS? I've been trying for the past month, and isn't it frustrating how the automated system always says they 'cannot take calls due to overwhelming volume on your topic'? Do they ever actually answer these calls? Or are we just supposed to accept whatever adjustment they make without explanation? I'm working on a tax accounting project for school and trying to understand how the system really works in practice, not just in theory.

Been there, done that. CP12 calls are brutal rn. They're swamped w/ these notices bc of all the math error corrections happening this season. Here's what worked for me: 1. Don't call the # on the letter - that's the dead end route 2. Try the main IRS # (800-829-1040) instead 3. Call right when they open (7am your local time) 4. When prompted, choose options for "other tax questions" not "notices" 5. Have your notice, return, and ID ready Took me 4 tries but finally got thru last week. The adjustment was legit in my case - I'd messed up calculating a credit.

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Zara Perez

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Did they explain why they reduced your refund amount? Mine was cut by $1,200 and the letter just says there was a "math error" but doesn't explain which form or line had the problem. How can I know if their adjustment is correct if they won't tell me what they changed?

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According to Internal Revenue Manual section 21.5.3.4.6.1, the IRS is required to provide taxpayers with a reasonable opportunity to dispute a math error assessment. However, current call volumes have created exceptional circumstances. I was in your exact situation last month. After 8 failed attempts over 3 weeks, I used Claimyr (https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c) and was connected to an agent in under 30 minutes. The representative confirmed my adjustment was due to an incorrect Child Tax Credit calculation and explained exactly how they recalculated it. This saved me significant time and worry, as I was able to verify their math was correct.

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Aaliyah Reed

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Is this service actually legit? I've seen it mentioned before but I'm hesitant to try it. • Is it just an expensive way to wait on hold? • How much does it cost? • Do they need access to personal information? • Can't I just keep trying the IRS number myself?

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Ella Russell

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You're experiencing the CP12 Notice Backlog Phenomenon. The IRS is currently operating under Reduced Capacity Protocol for this specific notice type due to an 83% increase in math error adjustments this filing season. Your adjustment may involve Refundable Credit Verification or Dependent Eligibility Confirmation, which requires manual review. You need to act quickly! The 60-day response window to dispute the adjustment began on the date of the notice, not when you received it. If you miss this deadline, you'll need to file Form 1040-X instead, which can take 16+ weeks to process.

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Wait, so if I got my notice dated March 15th, does that mean my window to dispute closes on May 14th? And what happens if I can't reach anyone by phone before then? Shouldn't they extend the deadline if they can't even answer their phones?

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Gavin King

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Thank you for this info! I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why my refund suddenly dropped by $1,100. Guess I'll be playing the IRS version of "The Hunger Games: Call Center Edition" for the next few days. May the odds be ever in my favor! šŸ˜…

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Nathan Kim

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Got the same issue. Called 18 times. No luck. Tried early morning. Tried late afternoon. Nothing worked. CP12 calls are blocked right now. Too many people calling. I uploaded my CP12 to taxr.ai instead. It explained the adjustment. Showed me which line had the error. Made sense once I saw it. Saved me hours of calling.

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I've dealt with CP12 notices for the past 7 tax seasons as part of my work. Let me share what happened with my most recent client. We received a CP12 reducing their refund by $1,800 in February. Instead of calling, we sent a written response by certified mail explaining why we disagreed with their adjustment. Included all supporting documents and calculations. Three weeks later, the IRS responded with a detailed explanation and actually reversed their adjustment! Sometimes writing is more effective than calling, especially during peak season. The key is being extremely specific about why you believe their adjustment is incorrect and providing documentation.

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Lucas Turner

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That's interesting - where exactly do you send the written response? The same address on the notice? And did you reference any specific tax code sections or use any particular format that seemed to help get a response?

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Kai Rivera

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The CP12 phone situation is like trying to get concert tickets for a sold-out show - technically possible but practically impossible. Here's what most people don't realize: CP12 notices are generated by the IRS Automated Underreporter (AUR) system, which compares the information reported on your return against information reported by third parties. The system is notoriously rigid and often flags legitimate entries as errors. If your reduction is under $2,000, you have these options: 1. Verify the adjustment yourself using the explanation on the notice 2. Submit a written response to the address on the notice 3. Visit a local Taxpayer Assistance Center (requires appointment) 4. Contact Taxpayer Advocate Service if it's causing financial hardship DON'T waste time calling the main line unless you absolutely need to speak with someone.

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Anna Stewart

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I tried the Taxpayer Assistance Center route last year and they told me they couldn't help with CP12 notices at local offices. Has that changed recently?

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I believe there might be some confusion about what local TAC offices can handle. While they may not be able to fully resolve CP12 issues on the spot, they can certainly help explain the notice and potentially initiate the resolution process. It really depends on the complexity of your specific adjustment and the expertise of the staff at your local office.

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How do you make an appointment at the Taxpayer Assistance Center? Is there an online system or do you have to call a separate number?

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Kaylee Cook

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Call 844-545-5640 to schedule a TAC appointment. They book up fast! Just checked yesterday and my local office had nothing available for 3 weeks.

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I tracked my CP12 experience precisely: - Received notice on February 23, 2024 - Attempted calls on 7 different days - Average hold time: 47 minutes before disconnection - Success on attempt #8 (March 17) at exactly 7:03am EST - Total wait: 38 minutes - Call duration: 24 minutes The key was calling the practitioner priority line (866-860-4259) and selecting option 3, then 2, then 1. The agent confirmed my adjustment was due to an incorrectly calculated Child Tax Credit - I had claimed $2,000 for my 18-year-old college student when the maximum for dependents 17+ is $500.

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Lara Woods

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Oh my goodness, I feel your pain so deeply! 😫 I spent THREE WEEKS trying to reach someone about my CP12 notice. It was honestly one of the most frustrating experiences of my life. When I finally got through, I was practically in tears explaining my situation to the agent. Please be careful about accepting their adjustment without verification! In my case, they incorrectly reduced my refund by $1,400 because they didn't process a form I had attached to my return. The agent was actually very understanding and immediately submitted a correction once I explained the situation.

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I received a CP12 notice on March 4th that reduced my refund by approximately $1,250. After careful review, I determined the adjustment was related to the Education Credit I had claimed. Instead of calling, I visited my local IRS office with an appointment. The representative confirmed that I had incorrectly calculated my American Opportunity Credit by including expenses that weren't qualified. The adjustment was legitimate, and I saved myself hours of phone attempts. My suggestion is to carefully examine the explanation on your notice first. In many cases, you may be able to identify the issue without speaking to a representative.

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I just went through this exact nightmare with a CP12 notice! I found some helpful resources on the IRS website about how to respond to math error notices: https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc652 After trying to call for weeks with no luck, I ended up sending a written response by certified mail explaining why I disagreed with their adjustment. I referenced IRS Publication 596 specifically to support my EITC calculation. Two weeks later, I was able to check my account transcript online and saw they had reversed the adjustment! My full refund was processed 8 days after that. Sometimes the written response route is actually faster than waiting to speak with someone.

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Lindsey Fry

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now! Got my CP12 notice three weeks ago with a $900 reduction and have been calling daily with zero success. The automated system just keeps saying "high call volumes" and hangs up. Reading through everyone's experiences here is both reassuring and terrifying - reassuring that I'm not alone in this struggle, but terrifying that some of you waited weeks or months to get through! I think I'm going to try the written response route that @Molly Chambers mentioned. Has anyone else had success with the certified mail approach? I'm worried about the 60-day deadline and don't want to risk missing it while playing phone tag with the IRS. Also, for those who did get through - did they actually explain the math error in detail, or just confirm what was already on the notice? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle or if I should just accept their adjustment and move on.

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@Lindsey Fry I m'in the exact same boat! Got my CP12 notice last week with a $750 reduction and I ve'been stressing about the 60-day deadline. Based on what I m'reading here, it sounds like the written response route might be our best bet. I m'definitely going to try that before wasting more time on hold. Has anyone found a template or specific format that works better for the written response? I want to make sure I include all the right information so they actually review it properly. Also super curious about the online account transcript thing @Molly Chambers mentioned - can you check the status of your dispute that way? That would be so much less stressful than wondering if they even received your letter!

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Salim Nasir

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I'm a newcomer here but dealing with the exact same CP12 nightmare! Just wanted to add my experience - I received my notice two weeks ago showing a $1,350 reduction in my refund. After reading through all these helpful responses, I decided to try multiple approaches simultaneously: 1. **Sent certified mail response** - Used the address on my notice, included copies of all supporting documents, and referenced specific tax code sections. Tracking shows it was delivered 3 days ago. 2. **Created online IRS account** - This was actually super helpful! I can see my account transcript and it shows the CP12 adjustment is still "pending review" which gives me hope they haven't finalized it yet. 3. **Still attempting calls** but not holding my breath based on everyone's experiences here. One thing I noticed that might help others: my notice had a specific "Response needed by" date that was exactly 60 days from the notice date (not the postmark or when I received it). Make sure you're calculating from the right date! Also, for anyone wondering about the online account - you can create one at irs.gov using your SSN, filing status, and either a credit card or mortgage info for identity verification. The transcript feature shows all adjustments and their status in real-time. Fingers crossed the written response works! Will update if I hear anything back.

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@Salim Nasir Thanks for sharing your multi-pronged approach! I m'definitely going to create that online IRS account - having real-time status updates sounds like a game changer compared to just wondering if they received my letter. Quick question about the certified mail response: did you include a cover letter explaining your disagreement, or did you just send the supporting documents? I m'trying to figure out the best way to structure my response to make sure they actually review it thoroughly. Also really helpful point about the 60-day calculation! I was counting from when I received the notice, but you re'right - it s'from the notice date itself. That actually gives me a few extra days which takes some pressure off. Keep us posted on how the written response works out. It sounds like you ve'got all your bases covered, which is smart given how impossible it is to reach anyone by phone right now.

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Just joining this community and wow, this thread is exactly what I needed to find! I received my CP12 notice yesterday showing a $2,100 reduction and I was honestly panicking about how to handle it. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly helpful - it sounds like the phone route is basically impossible right now, but there are definitely other options. I'm particularly interested in the written response approach that several people mentioned having success with. A few questions for those who've been through this: 1. When sending the certified mail response, do you send it to the address printed on the CP12 notice itself, or is there a different address for disputes? 2. For the online IRS account transcript - does it show the specific reason for the adjustment, or just that an adjustment was made? My notice just says "math error" but doesn't explain which line or calculation they changed. 3. Has anyone tried the Taxpayer Advocate Service route? I'm wondering if this situation might qualify since it's causing financial hardship (I was counting on that refund for some urgent expenses). Thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is a lifesaver when dealing with IRS issues! I'll definitely update with my results once I try some of these approaches.

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@Katherine Shultz Welcome to the community! I m'new here too and just going through this same CP12 nightmare. Based on what I ve'read in this thread, here s'what I ve'gathered: 1. **Mail address**: Yes, use the address printed directly on your CP12 notice - that s'what @Molly Chambers and @Salim Nasir did successfully. 2. **Online transcript**: From what @Salim Nasir mentioned, it shows the status like pending review but (I "don t") think it gives'the detailed breakdown of what they changed. You might need to call or write for those specifics. 3. **Taxpayer Advocate**: That s actually a great'idea! If you re facing financial hardship'because of this, that might be your fastest route. I hadn t thought of that'option. $2,100 is a significant reduction - definitely worth fighting if you believe it s incorrect. I m'planning to try'the certified mail approach myself after seeing the success stories here. The 60-day deadline is definitely stressful, but it sounds like multiple people have gotten good results with written responses. Keep us posted on what you decide to try! This thread has been so helpful for all of us dealing with this mess.

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Avery Saint

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New to this community and currently dealing with my first CP12 notice - what a welcome to tax season! Got mine last week with a $950 reduction and after reading through this entire thread, I'm both relieved and overwhelmed. Relieved because clearly I'm not alone in this struggle (the automated "high call volume" rejection is apparently universal), but overwhelmed by all the different approaches people are suggesting. Based on everyone's experiences here, I'm leaning toward the written response route since multiple people have had success with it (@Molly Chambers @Salim Nasir). But I have one specific question that I haven't seen addressed: If you send a written response and they don't agree with your position, do they at least send back a detailed explanation of their reasoning? Or do you just get another generic notice saying "adjustment stands"? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the effort to dispute, or if I should just accept their math and move on. My notice claims there was an error with my Earned Income Credit calculation, but I triple-checked my work and I'm confident it's correct. Also planning to set up that online IRS account that @Salim Nasir mentioned - having real-time status updates sounds like it would save a lot of anxiety during this process. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences! This thread is incredibly valuable for those of us navigating this mess.

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Diego Flores

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@Avery Saint Welcome to the community! I m'also new here and just went through a similar CP12 situation last month. To answer your question about written responses - in my case, when I disputed my EIC calculation, they actually sent back a pretty detailed letter explaining their position. It wasn t'just a generic adjustment "stands notice." They broke down exactly which income sources they included that I hadn t,'and provided the specific calculations they used. It was actually more helpful than what I got on the original CP12 notice. That said, I ended up agreeing with their adjustment once I saw their math - I had missed including some 1099-MISC income that affected my EIC eligibility. But at least I got a real explanation! If you re'confident your EIC calculation is correct, definitely dispute it. The EIC rules are complex and the IRS automated systems do make mistakes sometimes. Just make sure you have all your supporting documentation ready - income statements, qualifying child info, etc. The online account is definitely worth setting up too. Being able to track the status took away so much of the anxiety of wondering if they even received my letter. Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes.

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