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Nia Davis

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I've been following this thread as I'm dealing with a similar situation with my grandmother's old stock certificates. Just wanted to add a couple of things that might help: If you're having trouble with AT&T's investor relations, you can also try contacting Computershare, which is AT&T's current transfer agent. They sometimes have access to historical records that go further back than what the company's investor relations department can easily access. Their number is 1-800-351-7221. Also, for anyone dealing with really old certificates where the cost basis is completely unknown, the IRS does allow you to use "zero basis" as a last resort - meaning you'd pay capital gains tax on the entire proceeds. It's not ideal, but it's better than making up numbers or spending hundreds on professional research services if the stock position isn't worth that much. One thing I learned the hard way: make sure to document everything you tried to find the original cost basis. Keep records of who you called, when you called them, and what they told you. If you ever get audited, the IRS appreciates seeing that you made a good faith effort to determine the correct basis rather than just guessing.

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Zoe Stavros

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This is excellent advice about documenting everything! I'm dealing with my grandfather's old stock portfolio and hadn't thought about keeping detailed records of all the phone calls and research attempts. That could definitely save headaches if there's ever an audit. The Computershare tip is really valuable too - I didn't realize AT&T used a transfer agent that might have different/older records than their investor relations department. Do you know if other major companies typically use transfer agents like this, or is it mainly the big telecom companies? One question about the "zero basis" option - does that apply even if you can find some documentation but not the exact purchase price? For example, if we can prove the shares were purchased in December 1999 through old tax returns showing dividends, but can't pinpoint the exact cost, would reconstructing the basis using historical prices be better than going with zero basis?

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Great question about zero basis vs. reconstructed basis! If you can establish that the shares were purchased in December 1999 through dividend records on old tax returns, you should definitely reconstruct the basis using historical prices rather than using zero basis. The IRS prefers taxpayers to make reasonable efforts to determine actual basis. Most major public companies use transfer agents - it's not just telecoms. Companies like Microsoft use Computershare, Apple uses Computershare, Disney uses Broadridge, etc. The transfer agent handles the administrative side of stock ownership (transfers, splits, dividends) while the company focuses on operations. Here's the key thing about documentation: if you can prove the purchase timeframe through tax records showing dividends, then use that date to look up the historical stock price. Even if it's not the exact day, using the average price for that month or the closing price on the last trading day of December 1999 is completely reasonable and defensible. The zero basis option should really only be used when you have absolutely no way to determine when the stock was purchased or any reasonable estimate of value. Since you're dealing with a specific time period (December 1999), you're in much better shape than someone who inherited mystery certificates with no dates at all. Keep documenting your research process - it shows good faith effort to get the right numbers rather than just picking the option that saves the most taxes.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed guidance I was hoping to find! I'm new to dealing with inherited stock situations, and the distinction between zero basis vs. reconstructed basis makes so much sense now. I really appreciate the clarification about transfer agents being used by most major companies - I had no idea this was standard practice. It gives me hope that there might be records available through Computershare that we haven't accessed yet. Your point about using the average price for December 1999 or the closing price on the last trading day is really practical advice. I was getting hung up on trying to find the exact purchase date, but you're right that a reasonable estimate within the known timeframe should be defensible. I'm definitely going to start keeping a detailed log of all our research efforts moving forward. Between calling AT&T investor relations, Computershare, checking for old tax returns with dividend records, and documenting historical price research, it sounds like we have a solid path forward that the IRS would view as a good faith effort. Thanks to everyone in this thread - this has been incredibly helpful for navigating what initially seemed like an impossible situation!

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I'm in the exact same boat! My transcript shows my refund was mailed 4 days ago and I've already started that obsessive mailbox checking routine šŸ˜… It's so reassuring to read everyone's experiences here - sounds like 7-10 business days is the norm. I had no idea about USPS Informed Delivery, definitely signing up for that ASAP! The plain envelope tip is super helpful too, I was expecting something that screamed "IRS" on it. Thanks everyone for sharing your timelines, it really helps knowing this anxiety is totally normal when waiting for a big refund check!

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Ethan Moore

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Welcome to the community! I just joined recently too and this thread has been such a lifesaver for my anxiety. I'm on day 7 of waiting for my mailed refund and was starting to panic, but seeing everyone's experiences makes me feel so much better. That obsessive mailbox checking is SO real - I think I've checked mine like 4 times today already šŸ˜‚ Definitely get that USPS Informed Delivery set up, multiple people have mentioned it and it sounds like it'll save our sanity! Glad we found this supportive community to help us through the wait!

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Javier Torres

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm currently on day 5 of waiting for my mailed refund and was starting to get really anxious about it. Reading everyone's experiences is incredibly reassuring - it sounds like I'm still well within the normal 7-10 business day range. I had no idea about USPS Informed Delivery until reading this, definitely signing up tonight! Also really helpful to know about the plain envelope - I was expecting something more official looking. The obsessive mailbox checking is so real though, I've probably checked mine 3 times today already šŸ˜… Thanks to this amazing community for sharing your experiences and helping ease the stress!

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Rosie Harper

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Hey there! I'm new to this community but had to jump in since I literally just went through this exact same anxiety spiral last month. My refund took 8 business days to arrive and I was obsessively checking my mailbox multiple times a day too šŸ˜… You're definitely still in the normal range at day 5! That USPS Informed Delivery is seriously a game changer - I wish I had known about it earlier. One thing I'll add is that my check actually came mixed in with regular junk mail in one of those plain white Treasury envelopes, so make sure you're checking everything carefully. This community has been so helpful for navigating all this IRS stuff. Hang in there, it'll show up soon!

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Philip Cowan

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As someone who works in tax preparation, I want to emphasize something that hasn't been fully covered here - the timing aspect of claiming exempt status. Even if you qualify now, remember that your exempt status expires at the end of February each year, so you'd need to submit a new W-4 by February 15th to maintain it. Given that you're a student, there's also the scholarship/grant income factor to consider. If you receive any financial aid that's taxable (like amounts used for room and board), this could affect your tax liability even if your job income alone wouldn't create a tax obligation. I'd also recommend keeping detailed records throughout the year if you do claim exempt - track any additional income sources, changes in your student status, or other factors that might affect your tax situation. This way you can quickly submit a new W-4 if your circumstances change and avoid any surprises at tax time. The conservative approach others have suggested really is wise here. Having a small amount withheld gives you flexibility and peace of mind, especially when you're in a transitional period of life where income and circumstances can change quickly.

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Molly Hansen

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This is incredibly helpful advice from someone with professional experience! I hadn't even considered the scholarship/financial aid angle - that's a really important point that could easily catch students off guard. I do receive some financial aid, and while most of it goes toward tuition, some does cover living expenses which I believe would be taxable. The February 15th deadline you mentioned is also crucial information. I can definitely see myself forgetting to renew exempt status and then being confused when taxes start getting withheld again. Having to remember to do this every single year seems like another reason to just go with normal withholding from the start. Your point about keeping detailed records really resonates with me too. As a student, my income situation could change pretty frequently - picking up tutoring work, getting paid for research, maybe doing some freelance work during breaks. Trying to track all of that and constantly update my W-4 sounds like a lot of stress compared to just letting them withhold a small amount consistently. I think between your professional perspective and all the personal experiences shared here, I'm definitely convinced to take the conservative approach. Thanks for adding that tax preparer insight - it really helps to hear from someone who sees these situations regularly!

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I really appreciate all the detailed advice everyone has shared here! After reading through all these responses, especially the real-world experiences from other students and the professional perspective, I'm definitely convinced to take the conservative approach rather than claiming exempt status. The point about being right on that $26K edge where small changes could push me into owing taxes really resonates with me. And honestly, the stories about unexpected research work, tutoring gigs, or other income sources creating surprise tax bills are exactly what I was worried about but hadn't fully considered. I think I'll fill out my W-4 normally (single, no dependents) and let them withhold the small amount each paycheck. Like others mentioned, we're probably only talking about $15-25 per paycheck, and the peace of mind is definitely worth more than that small amount. Plus, if I don't end up owing anything, I'll get it all back as a refund anyway. Thanks everyone for taking the time to share your experiences and advice - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these confusing tax situations! I feel much more confident about my W-4 decision now.

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This situation highlights a really important distinction that many divorced parents aren't aware of. Even when a divorce decree specifies who claims which children, the IRS still requires Form 8332 for the non-custodial parent to legally claim those tax benefits. Since you mentioned you're the custodial parent and your decree doesn't specifically mention Form 8332, your ex may have been technically filing incorrectly for those 6 years he claimed the children without proper forms from you. The divorce decree creates an obligation between you two, but tax law requires the actual form. Your instinct to limit this to 2021 only is correct. You made one mistake in one year, and that's what should be addressed. Don't let his aggressive tactics pressure you into "fixing" years where you actually filed correctly according to your agreement. I'd suggest responding with something like: "I'm providing Form 8332 for tax year 2021 only, which addresses the specific filing error that occurred. For all other years, I followed our divorce agreement correctly and there's no need for retroactive forms." Document everything and stand firm. His demand for all 7 years seems more about covering his own potential filing issues than addressing your actual mistake.

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This is exactly the clarity I needed! I've been feeling guilty about the whole situation because of my CPA's mistake, but you're absolutely right - I shouldn't be fixing problems that aren't actually my fault. The fact that he may have been filing incorrectly for years without proper Form 8332s really puts this in perspective. I'm going to use your suggested response language - it's professional but firm. The key insight about the divorce decree creating obligations between us versus what the IRS actually requires is something I hadn't fully understood before. It makes me feel much more confident about limiting this to just 2021. Thank you for helping me see that his aggressive demands might actually be about covering his own compliance issues rather than just punishing me for one honest mistake. I'm definitely going to document everything and stick to addressing only the year where I actually made an error.

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Zainab Ahmed

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I've been through a very similar situation with my ex-husband regarding Form 8332 and dependent claims. The key thing to understand is that your ex's demand for a retroactive Form 8332 covering all 7 years is completely unreasonable given that you only made an error in one year. Since you mentioned you're the custodial parent and your divorce decree doesn't specifically mention Form 8332, there's actually a bigger issue here that others have pointed out - if your ex has been claiming those children for the past 6 years without proper Form 8332s from you, he's technically been filing incorrectly according to IRS rules. The IRS requires the custodial parent to release their claim via Form 8332 for the non-custodial parent to legally claim the child, regardless of what the divorce decree says. The decree creates obligations between you two, but tax law has its own requirements. My advice: Stand your ground and only provide Form 8332 for 2021 - the year where you actually made an error. You followed your divorce agreement correctly for the other 6 years, so there's no legitimate reason to sign retroactive forms for those years. His aggressive tactics shouldn't pressure you into fixing his potential filing compliance issues. Keep detailed documentation of everything and consider consulting with a tax professional if he escalates further. You're not responsible for covering his past filing mistakes.

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Sophia Long

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Wow, reading through this thread has been incredibly educational! I'm also in college and just starting to deal with tax documents for the first time, so seeing how you caught and are handling this W2 error is really helpful. The fact that your Social Security tax is actually higher than your total wages is wild - I never would have known that was mathematically impossible without reading everyone's explanations here. It's making me realize I should probably double-check my own W2 more carefully instead of just assuming everything is correct. @6b25431c3512 I hope your employer gets the corrected W2 issued quickly! It sounds like you've got all the right documentation and approach to get this resolved. And thanks to everyone who shared the detailed explanations about how Social Security tax should work - this is exactly the kind of real-world tax education that college doesn't teach us! I'm definitely bookmarking this thread for future reference and making sure to save all my paystubs going forward.

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@ee45d1878d01 I'm so glad this thread is helping other college students too! When I first got my W2, I honestly had no idea what any of the boxes meant or what numbers to expect. I was just going to blindly plug everything into TurboTax until I noticed that one number seemed way too high. It's crazy how much there is to learn about taxes that nobody really teaches you before you need to know it. Like, I had no clue that Social Security tax was supposed to be exactly 6.2% - I thought it was just some random amount the government decided to take out each paycheck! Definitely keep those paystubs - I'm so lucky I kept my last one because it's been the key piece of evidence to prove the W2 is wrong. And don't feel bad about questioning things that don't look right, even if you're not sure. Better to ask and learn than to just assume everything is correct and potentially file with bad information. This whole experience has definitely made me realize I need to be way more proactive about understanding my tax documents instead of just trusting that everything is accurate!

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This is such a valuable thread for anyone dealing with their first W2! As someone who works in accounting, I see these kinds of errors fairly regularly, especially with part-time or seasonal employees where payroll systems sometimes glitch. The numbers you've shared make it crystal clear this is a major error - having Social Security tax that exceeds your actual wages is impossible under normal circumstances. Your employer definitely needs to issue a corrected W2 (Form W-2c) immediately. One additional tip for you and other students reading this: when you get your corrected W2, double-check that ALL the boxes are accurate, not just the Social Security ones. Sometimes when payroll systems have one error, there can be other mistakes too. Compare Box 1 (federal wages), Box 3 (SS wages), and Box 5 (Medicare wages) to make sure they all align with your final paystub. Also, keep a copy of both the original incorrect W2 and the corrected one for your records. If there are ever any questions from the IRS down the road, having that documentation will be incredibly helpful. You're handling this exactly the right way by catching it early and pushing for a proper correction. Don't let anyone convince you to file with the incorrect information - it's not worth the headache it would cause later!

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