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Buying a house in late December - how to minimize 2023 tax impact?

We just got our offer accepted on a $1.75M home in a high cost of living area, with closing scheduled for December 18th. Since we'll only have a couple weeks to deduct mortgage interest for the 2023 tax year, I'm looking for ideas on how to further reduce our tax burden. Would buying points make sense? Any other strategies I should consider? Some details about our situation: - We're in our mid-40s with a 10-month-old and expecting our second child next year - Getting a 30-year fixed mortgage at 7.5% from our local credit union - Borrowing $1.25M with $500K down payment - Household income around $750K for 2023 - Currently renting, this is our first home purchase - Already maxed out 401K, backdoor Roth, HSA and 529 plans Any advice would be really appreciated! Time is ticking and I want to make smart financial moves before year-end.

Paolo Rizzo

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If you're closing in December, you actually have several options to reduce your 2023 tax burden. Buying mortgage points can be a good strategy since you can deduct them fully in the year you pay them. Each point costs 1% of your loan amount and typically reduces your interest rate by 0.25%. With your $1.25M loan, each point would cost $12.5K but provide tax savings now and interest savings over the life of the loan. Consider making your January 2024 mortgage payment in December so you can deduct that interest in 2023 too. This works because mortgage interest is deductible when paid, not when it accrues. Also look into prepaying property taxes if your county allows it and you won't be hit by SALT limitations. Make any charitable donations you were planning for next year. Check if you have any unrealized investment losses you can harvest before year-end. One more thing - make sure you're accounting for the home office deduction if either of you works from home at all. That can be significant with a home of that value.

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QuantumQuest

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Doesn't the SALT cap limit the benefit of prepaying property taxes? I thought that was capped at $10k combined for state/local/property?

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Paolo Rizzo

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You're absolutely right about the SALT limitation. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act capped the deduction for state and local taxes (including property taxes) at $10,000 for married couples filing jointly. So if you're already maxing out that deduction through state income taxes, prepaying property taxes wouldn't give you additional benefit for 2023. With your income level, you'll likely be well over the SALT cap just from state income taxes, depending on your state. That's why strategies like mortgage points and charitable giving might be more beneficial in your situation.

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Amina Sy

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Does this actually work with mortgages that high? I thought there were limitations on mortgage interest deductions over a certain amount?

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I'm kinda skeptical about these online tools. How is this different from just talking to a CPA? And do they have access to the actual tax code or are they just guessing?

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Amina Sy

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For mortgages that high, you're right that there are limitations. The mortgage interest deduction is limited to interest paid on the first $750,000 of mortgage debt for loans taken out after December 15, 2017. But taxr.ai factors this in when making recommendations, so you don't accidentally claim more than allowed. The difference from a typical CPA consultation is the technology uses document analysis to identify opportunities based on your specific closing documents and financial information. It's not guessing - it's using the actual tax code and IRS regulations, but applying them specifically to your documents in ways that many CPAs might miss if they're not real estate specialists. It can help identify the optimal timing for payments and deductions when you're in that December closing window.

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GalaxyGlider

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Have you considered making an extra payment to your student loans if you have any? Interest on student loans is deductible up to $2,500 depending on your income, though with your household income you might be phased out of this deduction. Also, if either of you is self-employed or has any 1099 income, you could make business purchases you were planning for early 2024. New computer, office equipment, professional subscriptions, etc.

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We don't have any student loans left fortunately, but my wife does have some consulting income on top of her regular job. That's a great idea about accelerating some business purchases - she was planning to upgrade her home office setup in January anyway. Is there a minimum amount of 1099 income needed to make this worthwhile?

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GalaxyGlider

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There's no minimum threshold for 1099 income to take business deductions. As long as your wife's consulting work is a legitimate business activity (not just a hobby), she can deduct ordinary and necessary business expenses against that income. Since she was already planning the office upgrade, accelerating it into 2023 makes perfect sense. Just make sure the purchases are actually made and put into service before December 31st - ordering isn't enough, you need to receive and start using the items this year. Keep excellent records of the purchases and how they relate to her consulting work.

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Has anyone mentioned charitable donations yet? With your income level, this could be a significant tax saver. If you normally give to charity, consider bunching multiple years of donations into 2023. You could also look into a donor-advised fund - you get the full tax deduction this year but can distribute the money to charities over future years.

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Donor-advised funds are amazing for tax planning! We did this last year and it worked great. You can even donate appreciated stock directly to the fund and avoid capital gains taxes completely while still getting the full deduction.

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