Tax implications of buying a 2nd home to sell at a loss - potential tax write-off strategy?
Hey tax gurus, I'm looking for some advice on a weird situation. My spouse and I are both W2 employees making around $520k combined annually. Between our 401ks, mortgage interest, and our two children, we're typically maxing out in the 32% tax bracket. Last year we had to back out of a new construction purchase due to some unexpected health concerns. The builder is holding approximately $130k of our money as a credit that we HAVE to use within the next 9 months or we lose it completely. The homes they're building now would cost around $600k before applying our credit. I'm not particularly interested in being a landlord (at least not long-term), but I'm wondering about tax strategies if we buy this second property using our credit and then sell it at a loss later. Real estate market is unpredictable these days, so I'm thinking this might be a bad investment overall, but could I at least use a potential loss to offset our tax burden? How much of our income could this potentially offset? Also, would it make sense to time the sale for a year when we might be in a higher tax bracket? Just trying to figure out if there's any silver lining here or if we should just walk away from the $130k. Any creative ideas welcome!
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Lia Quinn
I understand your dilemma with the builder credit! Unfortunately, selling a second home at a loss isn't as helpful for taxes as you might hope. Unlike investment properties, losses on the sale of a personal residence (including second homes) are generally considered personal losses and aren't tax-deductible against ordinary income. If you were to convert the property to a rental before selling, you might have some options. When you convert a personal residence to a rental property, the property's basis for determining loss becomes the lower of your adjusted basis or the fair market value at the time of conversion. This could limit the deductible loss, but at least some portion might be deductible against your ordinary income (up to $25,000 if your AGI is under certain thresholds, which yours exceeds). As for timing the sale based on tax brackets - that would only matter if the loss were deductible, which as I mentioned, is problematic for personal residences. Have you considered using the credit toward a property that could function as an actual investment? Or perhaps negotiating with the builder for some kind of partial refund?
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Haley Stokes
•Thanks for the info! How long would we need to rent it out before selling it for the loss to count as a rental property loss rather than a personal residence loss? And what are the AGI thresholds you mentioned?
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Lia Quinn
•There's no specific timeframe defined by the IRS for how long you must rent a property before it qualifies as a rental property, but generally you should demonstrate genuine intent to make a profit. Most tax professionals recommend at least 2 years of actual rental use to establish it as a legitimate investment property rather than a tax scheme. Regarding the AGI thresholds for rental loss deductions, you can deduct up to $25,000 in rental losses against ordinary income if your modified AGI is below $100,000. This deduction phases out between $100,000-$150,000, and completely disappears once your MAGI exceeds $150,000. Since your household income is around $520k, you wouldn't qualify for this immediate deduction, but the losses would be suspended and carried forward until you either have passive income to offset or until you dispose of the entire property.
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Asher Levin
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Serene Snow
•Did they tell you anything about how the IRS might view quickly converting to a rental and then selling at a loss? I've heard the IRS can be suspicious of that kind of arrangement as tax-loss harvesting.
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Asher Levin
•They provided detailed information about how the IRS views conversions from personal to rental property. The key is demonstrating legitimate intent to use it as a rental - you need proper documentation, market-rate rent, and typically at least 2 years of rental activity. Quick conversions followed by sales absolutely raise red flags with the IRS, and they were very clear about the risks of appearing to create artificial losses. Their service offers different options depending on your needs. I initially used their document analysis for my specific situation, but they also offer ongoing tax planning services. The pricing varies based on complexity, but I found the initial consultation provided incredible value for what I paid - saved me from making some costly mistakes.
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Marina Hendrix
•Wait, how does that even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible to navigate. Can they really get you through faster?
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Alana Willis
Have you considered a 1031 exchange instead? If you use that credit to buy a property and then exchange it for another investment property, you could defer any potential gains (though this wouldn't help with losses). It might be a way to at least preserve your capital until the market improves.
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Jackie Martinez
•I hadn't thought about a 1031! But wouldn't that only help me if the property appreciates? Since I'm expecting to potentially sell at a loss, I don't think I'd have gains to defer. And I'd still need to figure out what to do with the exchange property afterward...
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Alana Willis
•You're right that a 1031 exchange only defers gains rather than recognizing losses. In your situation where you anticipate selling at a loss, it wouldn't provide the tax benefit you're looking for. However, an alternative strategy might be to use the builder credit for a property that could qualify as a rental from the start. If you held it as a rental for several years, you could potentially benefit from depreciation deductions against your ordinary income (subject to passive activity limitations given your income level). Then if the market improves, you might avoid a loss altogether or even see some appreciation. Real estate is cyclical, so timing matters significantly.
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Tyler Murphy
Has anyone mentioned the fact that this is probably a terrible investment regardless of tax implications? You're essentially saying "I'm going to spend $470k to avoid losing $130k" - that math doesn't work unless you really believe the property will hold most of its value. In this market, that's risky.
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Sara Unger
•This is exactly what I was thinking! Even if there were perfect tax advantages (which there aren't), you're still looking at transaction costs, carrying costs, and potentially a bigger loss if the market declines further. Sometimes it's better to just take the L on the deposit.
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Ayla Kumar
I agree with Tyler and Sara that the fundamental economics here don't make sense. You're basically throwing good money after bad. Even if you could somehow make this work as a rental property loss (which would require years of legitimate rental activity), you'd still be out significant cash. Consider this: at your income level, you're already maxing out most tax-advantaged strategies. The passive loss limitations mean you couldn't even use rental losses against your W-2 income immediately - they'd just carry forward until you sell the property or have passive income to offset. Have you exhausted all options with the builder? Some possibilities: - Negotiate a partial refund (even 50% back is better than losing it all) - Transfer the credit to someone else who actually wants to buy - Use it toward a smaller, less expensive property that might actually appreciate - See if they'll extend the deadline in exchange for a smaller forfeiture Walking away from $130k hurts, but it's better than turning it into a $200k+ loss. Sometimes the best tax strategy is simply not making bad investments in the first place.
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Owen Devar
•Ayla makes excellent points about the fundamental economics here. As someone new to these tax discussions, I'm curious - are there any situations where intentionally taking a loss on real estate actually makes financial sense from a tax perspective? It seems like the passive loss rules really limit the immediate benefits for high earners like Jackie. Also, has anyone successfully negotiated with builders in similar situations? I'd imagine they'd rather work something out than have an unhappy customer, especially if Jackie is willing to accept a partial loss on the deposit.
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Anita George
As a newcomer to this community, I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm facing a somewhat similar situation with a builder credit myself. What strikes me most is how everyone is focusing on the tax implications when the core issue seems to be risk management. Jackie, you mentioned you're both W2 employees making $520k combined - that suggests you have steady income and likely other investment options that don't involve the complexity and risk of this scenario. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is whether the builder has any flexibility on the timeline. Nine months feels arbitrary - is there any possibility they'd extend it for a fee that's less than the full $130k loss? Or could you use the credit toward a smaller property, maybe something in the $400k range that leaves you with a smaller net investment? I'm also wondering about the original reasons you backed out. You mentioned health concerns - are those fully resolved? Taking on a significant real estate investment (whether as a second home or rental) requires time, energy, and financial resources. If your health situation is still evolving, that might be another factor weighing against moving forward. Sometimes the best financial decision is accepting a sunk cost rather than compounding it. The tax strategies being discussed seem complex with limited upside given your income level.
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