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Nia Wilson

Tax Strategies for High Income W2 Earners Looking to Reduce Tax Liability

My wife and I just got a huge pay bump this year, going from around $290k combined to about $720k in W2 income, and I'm freaking out about the taxes. I think we're looking at something like 29% effective tax rate which means we'd owe roughly $210k in taxes. That's literally more than what I made in total last year! I desperately need to find ways to reduce our tax liability - ideally cut it in half if that's even possible. We're already doing the basic stuff: - Maxing out our 401ks, 403b and 457 plans - Maxing HSA, FSA and Dependent Care FSA - Deducting childcare expenses and all our medical costs - Taking the mortgage interest deduction But these feel like drops in the bucket compared to our total income. Are there bigger strategies we should consider? I've heard about potentially buying investment property through my LLC and using pass-through losses to offset income. Would a Section 179 vehicle purchase make sense? Should we be looking at other tax shelters I don't know about? Who should we talk to for serious tax planning at this income level? Our regular accountant seems out of his depth with our new situation.

First, congratulations on the significant income increase! This is definitely a situation where strategic tax planning becomes crucial. While you're already making smart moves with retirement accounts and deductions, here are some additional strategies to consider: 1. Look into opening a Donor-Advised Fund (DAF) if you're charitably inclined. You can make a large contribution now, get the tax deduction immediately, and distribute the funds to charities over time. 2. Consider investing in Qualified Opportunity Zones which allow you to defer capital gains taxes if you have any investments you could sell. 3. Explore cash-value life insurance policies which can provide tax-advantaged growth, though be careful about fee structures. 4. Real estate investments can provide depreciation deductions, but be wary of passive activity loss limitations at your income level. Your LLC idea has merit but needs careful planning. 5. Section 179 vehicle deductions only work if the vehicle is genuinely used for business purposes and meets weight requirements (typically over 6,000 lbs). For serious tax planning at your income level, I'd recommend working with a CPA who specializes in high-net-worth individuals, possibly at a larger accounting firm. Also consider a financial advisor who works specifically with high-income professionals.

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Nia Wilson

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Thanks for the detailed response! I've never heard of a Donor-Advised Fund before - is there a minimum contribution amount to set one up? And how much would that typically reduce our tax liability? For the real estate investments, would it be better to purchase through an LLC or personally? And how does depreciation work if the property is actually appreciating in value?

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Most major investment firms (Fidelity, Vanguard, Schwab) offer DAFs with minimums around $5,000-$25,000. The tax benefit equals your contribution multiplied by your marginal tax rate. For example, a $100,000 contribution in the 37% bracket would save about $37,000 in federal taxes. For real estate, an LLC provides liability protection but doesn't necessarily change the tax treatment unless you elect different tax status. Depreciation is a tax concept separate from actual market value - you can claim depreciation deductions on the building portion (not land) over 27.5 years for residential property regardless of whether the market value is increasing. This creates a tax benefit now, though you'll recapture some when you sell.

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Ethan Clark

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Does this actually work for W2 income though? I always thought W2 employees are pretty much stuck with the standard tax-reduction strategies since our income is so straightforward. Can it really find deductions beyond what a human accountant would catch?

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Ethan Clark

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Does this actually work for W2 income though? I always thought W2 employees are pretty much stuck with the standard tax-reduction strategies since our income is so straightforward. Can

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Have you looked into a Cash Balance Plan? At your income level, this could be HUGE. It's like a super-charged 401k that allows much higher contributions - sometimes $200k+ annually depending on your age and income. It works alongside your existing retirement accounts. My wife and I are physicians making about $800k combined, and our cash balance plan lets us contribute almost $250k annually on top of our regular retirement accounts. The tax savings are significant. These plans work best if you own your own business or are a partner/owner in your practice, but some larger employers offer them too. Worth asking about or considering if you have any self-employment income on the side.

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Nia Wilson

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This sounds really interesting - I haven't heard of Cash Balance Plans before. We're both W2 employees at large corporations though. Can you still set these up if you're not self-employed or business owners? And are there income limits like with Roth IRAs?

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Unfortunately, as W2 employees without ownership stakes, you can't set up your own Cash Balance Plan. These are employer-sponsored plans, so your company would need to offer one. There aren't income limits like Roth IRAs - actually, they're specifically designed for high-income professionals. If either of you has any consulting or side business income, you could potentially establish one for that business, but the contributions would be limited to earnings from that specific business. Might be worth exploring if either of you has any 1099 income alongside your W2 jobs.

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Since you're already maxing out retirement accounts, have you considered a backdoor Roth IRA? While the contribution isn't deductible, the growth is tax-free, which is valuable long-term. Also, have you explored tax-loss harvesting in your investment accounts? For immediate tax reduction though, real estate is probably your best bet. Section 179 vehicle deductions are useful only if you have legitimate business use. Beware of aggressive tax strategies that might trigger audits - at your income level, you're already in a higher audit risk category.

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Mei Wong

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Tax-loss harvesting isn't going to make a dent in $720k of W2 income though. The maximum capital loss deduction against ordinary income is only $3k per year. That's like a 0.4% reduction - barely noticeable at their income level.

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QuantumQuasar

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Don't overlook geographic tax arbitrage if you have any flexibility in where you live. Moving from a high-tax state like California or New York to a no-income-tax state like Florida, Texas, or Nevada could save you 10%+ on state taxes alone. If full relocation isn't possible, establishing domicile in a lower-tax state while working remotely part of the year is an option some high earners use (though be careful with state residency rules). Also, timing of income recognition matters. If your income fluctuates year to year, bunching deductions in high-income years and spreading income across tax years when possible can reduce your lifetime tax burden.

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Zainab Ahmed

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At your income level, you definitely need to think beyond the basic strategies you're already using. Here are some additional approaches to consider: **Immediate strategies:** - **Mega backdoor Roth**: If your employer's 401(k) allows after-tax contributions and in-service withdrawals, you could potentially contribute up to $69,000 total per person ($23,000 traditional + $46,000 after-tax converted to Roth) - **Solo 401(k) for side income**: If either of you has any 1099 consulting income, even small amounts, you can establish a solo 401(k) with much higher contribution limits - **Charitable giving bunching**: Instead of giving $10k annually to charity, consider giving $50k every 5 years to get above the standard deduction threshold in those years **Investment considerations:** - **Oil & gas partnerships**: These can provide significant depletion allowances and intangible drilling cost deductions, though they're high-risk investments - **Qualified Small Business Stock (QSBS)**: If you have any startup equity or can invest in qualifying small businesses, this offers potential tax-free gains up to $10M **Professional advice is crucial**: At $720k income, you're definitely in "get a tax attorney and wealth management team" territory. Look for CPAs who specifically work with executives in your income bracket - they'll know strategies that general practitioners don't. The real game-changer will likely be shifting from pure W2 income to building wealth through equity and investments where you can control timing and tax treatment.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for breaking down these advanced strategies! I had no idea about the mega backdoor Roth option. Do you know if most large employers allow the after-tax contributions and in-service withdrawals needed for this? I'll need to check with our HR departments. The QSBS option is particularly interesting since we both work in tech and might have opportunities to invest in qualifying startups. Is there a minimum investment amount or holding period requirement for the tax benefits? You're absolutely right about needing specialized professional help at this level. Our current accountant keeps suggesting the same basic strategies we're already doing. Do you have any recommendations for finding CPAs who specialize in high-income executives, or should we be looking at the Big 4 accounting firms?

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Omar Farouk

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One strategy you might not have considered is establishing a defined benefit pension plan if either of you has any consulting or side business income. Even small amounts of 1099 income can justify setting up a plan that allows massive tax-deductible contributions - potentially $100k+ annually depending on your ages. Also, look into **conservation easements** if you're willing to take on more aggressive strategies. These allow you to donate development rights on property (which you can purchase specifically for this purpose) and claim charitable deductions often worth 4-5x your investment. However, these are heavily scrutinized by the IRS, so you need bulletproof documentation and legitimate conservation value. For immediate relief, consider **installment sales** if you have any appreciated assets. This lets you spread the tax burden over multiple years rather than taking a huge hit all at once. At your income level, you should also explore **life insurance as an investment vehicle** - specifically, a Private Placement Life Insurance (PPLI) policy. These allow tax-free growth on substantial investments and can be structured to avoid estate taxes later. Most importantly, start thinking about **entity structuring**. Even as W2 employees, you can potentially shift some income through consulting LLCs or S-Corps if your employers allow side work. The key is legitimate business purpose - but the tax savings can be substantial. I'd recommend reaching out to wealth management firms that specifically serve executives in your income bracket rather than traditional CPAs. They'll have access to strategies that typical tax preparers don't even know exist.

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These are some really sophisticated strategies I hadn't heard of before! The conservation easement option sounds intriguing but also risky given the IRS scrutiny you mentioned. How do you find legitimate conservation properties that would qualify, and what kind of documentation is typically required to avoid audit issues? The Private Placement Life Insurance approach is completely new to me - is there a minimum investment threshold for PPLI policies, and how do the returns typically compare to other tax-advantaged investments? I'm also curious about the entity structuring suggestion. Both of our employers have pretty strict policies about outside consulting, but I wonder if there are other legitimate business activities we could explore that would justify LLC formation. Maybe rental property management or investment-related activities? Really appreciate the detailed breakdown - this gives us a lot of concrete options to research and discuss with a qualified wealth management team.

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Abigail Patel

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At your income level, you're entering territory where tax planning becomes as important as the income itself. Here are some additional strategies to consider beyond what others have mentioned: **Immediate high-impact moves:** - **Deferred compensation plans**: If your employers offer these, you can defer a portion of current income to future years when you might be in lower brackets - **Executive physical programs**: Many employers reimburse these as business expenses, converting what would be personal medical costs into pre-tax benefits - **Professional development**: Maximize any employer-sponsored education benefits, professional memberships, and conference attendance **Investment restructuring:** - **Municipal bonds**: At your bracket, tax-free munis might yield better after-tax returns than taxable bonds - **I Bonds**: While limited to $10K per person annually, these provide inflation protection with tax deferral options - **529 plan superfunding**: You can contribute 5 years' worth of gifts ($90K per beneficiary) immediately for children's education while removing assets from your estate **Timing strategies:** - **Bonus timing**: If you have any control over when bonuses are paid, spreading them across tax years can help - **RSU management**: If you have any equity compensation, careful timing of vesting and sales can optimize tax impact The key at your income level is working with a team - CPA, financial planner, and possibly an estate attorney. Look for firms that specialize in tech executives or high-income professionals rather than general practitioners. The strategies available to you are significantly more complex and valuable than standard advice. Your effective rate concern is valid, but remember you're building wealth at an accelerated pace that most people never achieve. Smart tax planning now sets you up for long-term financial independence.

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KhalilStar

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping to find! The deferred compensation angle is particularly interesting - I hadn't thought about how that could help us manage our tax brackets over time, especially if we're planning to potentially reduce our income in future years. The municipal bonds suggestion makes a lot of sense at our bracket. I've been focused on maximizing returns without considering the after-tax implications. Do you have any guidance on how to evaluate muni yields versus taxable alternatives at our income level? One question about the 529 superfunding - we have two young children, so this could be a substantial estate planning move. Is there any risk of over-funding if college costs don't end up being as high as projected, or are there ways to redirect those funds later? Your point about working with a specialized team really resonates. We've been trying to handle this ourselves with our regular accountant, but it's clear we need professionals who deal with situations like ours regularly. Thanks for the reality check about building wealth - sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees when you're focused on the immediate tax hit!

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