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Freya Larsen

What are effective strategies to reduce taxable income beyond 401k and mortgage?

So I've got a pretty solid W-2 job that pays well, but I'm looking at my tax situation and feeling like I'm giving away too much money to Uncle Sam. I'm already maxing out my 401k contributions (getting that sweet employer match) and I've got a mortgage that gives me some deduction benefits. But I'm wondering what else I could be doing to legally minimize my tax burden? I'm in the 24% tax bracket and it feels like there should be more strategies I can use beyond just retirement accounts and home ownership. Are there other deductions or credits I'm missing out on? Maybe something with HSAs or charitable giving? I've heard some people talking about "tax loss harvesting" but I'm not sure if that applies to someone like me. Any suggestions for other ways to bring down that taxable income number that I might not have considered yet?

The 401k and mortgage interest deduction are great starts! Here are some additional strategies worth considering: Health Savings Account (HSA) is probably your best next move if you have a high-deductible health plan. HSA contributions are tax-deductible, grow tax-free, and withdrawals for qualified medical expenses are tax-free too. It's basically a triple tax advantage that no other account offers. Consider a traditional IRA if you're eligible based on your income level. Even if you have a 401k, you might still qualify for deductible contributions depending on your income. If you have any side income, look into opening a SEP IRA or Solo 401k. These allow for much higher contribution limits than traditional retirement accounts. If you have kids or plan to, 529 plans don't reduce federal taxable income but many states offer tax deductions for contributions. Don't overlook FSAs for healthcare or dependent care if your employer offers them. These use pre-tax dollars to pay for eligible expenses.

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Omar Zaki

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Thanks for the advice! I don't have kids yet but planning in next couple yrs. Question - I've heard HSAs are great but isn't there a relatively low contribution limit? Is it worth the hassle for like $3k-ish tax savings? And do you know if I can still do an IRA if my employer offers 401k?

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The HSA contribution limit for 2025 is $4,150 for individuals and $8,300 for families. While that may seem small, that's potentially $1,000+ in tax savings annually if you're in the 24% bracket. Plus, it's the only account with triple tax advantages, and unused funds roll over forever - you can even use it as a secondary retirement account after age 65. For traditional IRA deductibility with a workplace plan like a 401k, it depends on your income. For 2025, the deduction begins phasing out at $77,000 for single filers and $123,000 for married filing jointly. Even if you can't deduct contributions, a Roth IRA might be worth considering for tax-free growth if your income doesn't exceed the eligibility limits.

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Luca Marino

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Don't forget about bunching your charitable deductions! I save tons by doing this. Basically, instead of donating say $5k every year, I donate $10k every other year. Then I itemize deductions in the "donation years" and take standard deduction in off years. Works especially well if you're just slightly over the standard deduction threshold with your mortgage interest and state taxes. Also if you're in a high property tax state, watch out for SALT cap limitations. Some states have workarounds now like pass-through entity taxes that can help business owners.

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Nia Davis

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Can you explain the bunching thing a bit more? I donate regularly to a few charities but always just take standard deduction. How do you know if itemizing would be better? Is there like a calculator or something to figure out that tipping point?

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Luca Marino

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For charitable donation bunching, it's all about comparing your potential itemized deductions against the standard deduction. The standard deduction for 2025 is projected to be around $13,850 for single filers and $27,700 for married filing jointly. If your mortgage interest, state/local taxes (up to $10,000), and charitable donations combined exceed these amounts, itemizing makes sense. The calculator question is a good one - most tax software will automatically compare standard vs. itemized for you during the preparation process. You can also use the IRS's Tax Withholding Estimator or free calculators on financial websites like NerdWallet or TaxAct. The key is to track your potential deductions throughout the year to see where you stand relative to the standard deduction threshold.

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Mateo Perez

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Anybody here messed around with QOFs (Qualified Opportunity Funds)? My buddy was talking about them for deferring capital gains but I don't really understand how they work or if they're legit tax strategy or just something sketchy.

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QOFs are legitimate investment vehicles created by the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. They allow you to defer capital gains tax by reinvesting those gains into businesses or real estate in designated "Opportunity Zones" (economically distressed communities). However, they're probably not relevant for your situation if you're mainly earning W-2 income. QOFs are more applicable for people who have significant capital gains from selling investments, businesses, or property. They also come with specific holding period requirements and investment restrictions that make them quite different from typical tax-advantaged accounts like 401ks or IRAs.

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Mateo Perez

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Thanks for explaining! Makes sense why my friend was talking about it - he just sold some rental property. Sounds like it's not really applicable to my regular job income situation. Appreciate the clarification!

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Great thread! One strategy I haven't seen mentioned yet is tax loss harvesting in taxable investment accounts. If you have any investments outside your 401k that are at a loss, you can sell them to offset capital gains or even up to $3,000 in ordinary income annually. Just be careful about the wash sale rule - you can't buy the same or "substantially identical" security within 30 days. Also, if you're self-employed at all or have any 1099 income (even small amounts), consider setting up a Solo 401k or SEP-IRA. The contribution limits are much higher than traditional IRAs. For example, with a Solo 401k you can contribute up to $69,000 for 2025 (or $76,500 if you're 50+) based on your self-employment income. Another often overlooked deduction is continuing education related to your current job. Courses, certifications, books, and even conference attendance can be deductible if they maintain or improve skills needed in your present work. Your employer might even reimburse you, making it essentially tax-free money.

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