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Carmella Popescu

Owe $10K in taxes annually - seeking advice on better tax reduction strategies

So we end up owing about $10K to the IRS pretty much every year. I know this question is broad, but I'm trying to be smarter with our tax situation. If we contribute to a traditional IRA before the April deadline, is that a dollar-for-dollar reduction in our tax bill? Like if we put $3K into an IRA, would our tax bill drop from $10K to $7K? We've been putting money into 529 plans for our kids (about $2,900 last year), but TurboTax never asks about them and we don't get any forms. Are we missing a way to use these contributions to reduce our federal taxes? This might sound crazy, but would it make financial sense to purchase a $130K property or land just to get the mortgage interest deduction? At least then we'd be building equity instead of just paying taxes? How would I even calculate if that makes sense? Right now our only deductions are our 401k contributions, mortgage interest on our primary home, and our 2 kids. Any advice is appreciated!

Kai Santiago

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The IRA contributions won't give you a dollar-for-dollar reduction on your tax bill, but they'll reduce your taxable income. So if you put $3K into a traditional IRA, and you're in the 22% tax bracket, you'd save about $660 in taxes (not the full $3K). For 529 plans, unfortunately, those contributions aren't deductible on your federal taxes. Some states do offer state tax deductions or credits for 529 contributions, though. Check your state's tax rules - you might be missing out on state tax benefits. About buying property just for tax purposes - I wouldn't recommend making a major purchase just for tax benefits. Mortgage interest is deductible, but only if you itemize, and only the interest portion (not principal). With the standard deduction at $25,900 for married filing jointly in 2025, you'd need your itemized deductions to exceed that amount to benefit. A better approach might be adjusting your W-4 withholding so you're not owing such a large sum each April. You might also look into maxing out your 401(k) contributions, HSA if eligible, and checking if you qualify for child tax credits.

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Lim Wong

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Thanks for the explanation. Quick follow-up: if we're both self-employed, would a SEP IRA or Solo 401k be better than a traditional IRA for reducing our tax burden? And are there any business expenses we might be overlooking that could help?

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Kai Santiago

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If you're self-employed, you definitely have more options! A SEP IRA or Solo 401k would allow for much higher contribution limits than a traditional IRA. For 2025, you can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment income (up to $69,000) with a SEP IRA, versus only $7,000 for a traditional IRA. Solo 401k plans can be even better because they allow you to contribute both as the employee and the employer, potentially allowing for higher total contributions depending on your income. Plus you can make Roth contributions with a Solo 401k. For business expenses, make sure you're tracking everything - home office, business travel, professional development, health insurance premiums, business portion of phone/internet, retirement plan administration fees, and business equipment. Consider consulting with a CPA who specializes in self-employment to identify all possible deductions.

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Xan Dae

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A big thing to consider - if you consistently owe $10K in taxes every year, you might be underpaying throughout the year and could face an underpayment penalty. The IRS generally wants you to pay at least 90% of your taxes throughout the year through withholding or estimated quarterly payments. For self-employed folks or those with significant non-W2 income, you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments. This won't reduce your total tax bill, but it will spread it out and help avoid penalties.

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Thanks for pointing this out! We haven't been hit with underpayment penalties yet, but I'm worried it could happen. How do you calculate the right amount for quarterly payments? Our income fluctuates a lot throughout the year.

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Xan Dae

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For fluctuating income, you can use the "annualized income installment method" which lets you make varying quarterly payments based on your actual income during each period. You'd use Form 2210, Schedule AI for this. A simpler approach is to take your previous year's tax liability and pay 100% of that amount (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000) spread across four quarterly payments. As long as you pay that much, you're protected from underpayment penalties even if your actual tax ends up higher. I'd recommend setting aside a percentage of all income as it comes in. For example, if your effective tax rate is around 25%, immediately transfer 25-30% of each payment you receive into a separate savings account earmarked for taxes. This creates a forced savings approach that makes quarterly payments less painful.

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About those 529 plans - while they don't give federal tax deductions, check if your state offers tax benefits! I live in NY and we get a state tax deduction up to $5K per year per beneficiary ($10K for married filing jointly). Made a huge difference on our state taxes.

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Thais Soares

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This! I'm in Virginia and we get a $4,000 deduction per account on our state taxes. Definitely check your specific state rules - some states like Indiana even offer tax credits instead of deductions which are even better.

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Exactly right! State benefits vary hugely - Pennsylvania and Montana have unlimited deductions for contributions, while states like Colorado, New Mexico, and others offer deductions up to the annual gift tax exclusion amount. Some states require you to contribute to their specific 529 plan to get the benefit, while others (like Arizona and Kansas) give you the deduction regardless of which state's plan you use. I'd recommend calling your state tax department directly to confirm what's available. The tax savings might not be as big as federal deductions, but they definitely add up over time, especially if you're contributing for multiple children.

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Nalani Liu

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For your property purchase idea, I did something similar buying a rental property. But don't just think about the mortgage interest deduction - consider the overall return. If you buy a $130k property with 20% down, your mortgage interest might only be $5-6k the first year, saving you maybe $1,300 in taxes if you're in the 22% bracket. But you could potentially also depreciate the property (except for the land portion), deduct property taxes, maintenance, insurance, etc. Plus hopefully the property appreciates in value and generates rental income. That's where the real benefit comes from. Don't buy property JUST for tax benefits - it needs to make sense as an overall investment.

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