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Daniel Rogers

Best strategies to shelter assets for FAFSA before college starts?

I need some advice on a financial strategy for FAFSA purposes. My wife and I have a kid starting college next fall, and we've got some mutual funds that are going to count against us for financial aid calculations. We already consider these investments part of our retirement savings, so we're thinking we should move as much as possible into my 401K and our IRAs. With only 5 paychecks left this year, I can bump up my contributions enough to hit the $22,500 max for my 401K, plus we can each put $6,500 into our IRAs. Here's what our numbers look like: $168K gross income -$35K pretax stuff (401K, health insurance, FSA) -$27K standard deduction (haven't checked if itemizing would be better yet) = $106K taxable income (and that's not even counting the IRA contributions which should drop it another $13K) This plan not only puts us in a lower tax bracket but also gets us to 0% tax on the capital gains from selling the mutual funds. We're also thinking about paying off our RV loan to shelter a bit more, then selling it next spring to help max out our 2024 retirement contributions. Does this approach make sense? Am I overlooking something major that could come back to haunt us? When we take distributions, they won't count as actual income for FAFSA purposes, right? Just the capital gains and their associated taxes? Thanks for any help!

Aaliyah Reed

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This is a smart approach! Moving assets from non-retirement to retirement accounts before filing FAFSA is an effective strategy since retirement accounts are not counted as assets on the FAFSA form. A few things to confirm: The FAFSA snapshot is taken based on the information at the time you file, so timing is critical. Make sure you complete these moves before submitting the FAFSA form. Also, be aware that while retirement accounts (401k, IRA) aren't counted as assets, distributions from retirement accounts during the base income year will count as income on future FAFSA forms. For your specific questions - yes, this approach makes sense for FAFSA purposes. By moving funds into retirement accounts, you're legitimately sheltering those assets from FAFSA consideration. And correct - when you eventually take distributions during retirement, those won't affect your current FAFSA calculations (though they will count as income if taken during college years). The 0% capital gains strategy is particularly smart if you're in the right income bracket. Just make sure you're accounting for any state taxes that might still apply to those gains.

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Ella Russell

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Thanks for confirming this approach! I have one followup question. We are considering using a 529 plan for our younger kid who's still in middle school. Would moving some assets there help with the FAFSA for our older child, or would those still count as parental assets?

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Aaliyah Reed

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529 plans owned by parents are still counted as parental assets on the FAFSA, but they're assessed at a maximum rate of 5.64%, which is much better than the 20% rate for student-owned assets. So while moving money to a 529 won't completely shelter it like retirement accounts do, it's still advantageous compared to keeping it in regular investments. If a grandparent or other relative owns the 529 plan, it doesn't count as an asset on the FAFSA at all. However, distributions from those plans used to count as student income (assessed at 50%), but good news - recent FAFSA changes eliminated this penalty, making grandparent-owned 529s even more attractive.

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Mohammed Khan

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I was in a similar situation last year with my daughter starting college and I used https://taxr.ai to analyze how shifting assets would impact our FAFSA EFC (now called SAI). The site helped me run different scenarios based on our tax forms to see how retirement contributions would affect our aid eligibility. The tax document analysis showed that by maxing out my 403b (similar to your 401k plan), we were able to reduce our income for FAFSA purposes AND shelter assets at the same time. The AI picked up on some other potential sheltering strategies I hadn't considered, like timing our mutual fund sales to minimize the impact. What you're proposing sounds similar to what worked for us. The capital gains strategy is especially smart - just upload your previous returns to see exactly how it would affect your specific situation.

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Gavin King

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Did you need to provide your actual tax documents or just input numbers? I'm interested but a little hesitant about uploading my tax info to yet another site.

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Nathan Kim

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I'm skeptical about these tax planning tools. Did it actually result in more financial aid for your kid? Our EFC was crazy high despite trying all these "strategies" and we still got nothing but loans.

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Mohammed Khan

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You can just input the numbers if you prefer - that's what I did initially. The document upload feature is optional but does make it more accurate since it catches details you might miss when entering manually. We did see a significant difference in our expected contribution. Our EFC/SAI dropped by about $8,000 which made our daughter eligible for some grants she wouldn't have received otherwise. Every school handles aid differently though - some schools were still mostly loans despite the lower EFC, but her top choice offered about $6,500 more in grants based on our lower contribution number.

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Gavin King

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Kai Rivera

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One thing to watch out for - make sure you're contributing to a ROTH IRA rather than Traditional if your goal is to potentially use some of it for education expenses later. You can withdraw Roth IRA contributions (not earnings) penalty-free for education expenses, but Traditional IRA withdrawals for education still get hit with income tax (though the 10% penalty is waived). Also, don't overlook the asset protection allowance in the FAFSA formula. Depending on your age, a certain amount of your assets are already protected. For most parents of college-age students, it's not much nowadays (maybe $10K-$20K) but still worth accounting for in your calculations.

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Daniel Rogers

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This is super helpful, thanks! I hadn't considered the difference between Roth and Traditional for this purpose. We do have some existing Roth contributions we could tap if absolutely necessary. Do you know if 401k loans for education expenses would count as income on future FAFSA forms?

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Kai Rivera

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401k loans don't count as income on the FAFSA, which is an advantage. They don't show up on your tax return as income, so they won't affect your FAFSA calculations. Just remember you typically need to repay a 401k loan within 5 years, and if you leave your job, the full amount often becomes due quickly. An alternative some families use is a home equity line of credit (HELOC) since that doesn't count as income either. With today's interest rates though, that's less attractive than it used to be. The 401k loan approach is generally better if you're confident about your job stability through the college years.

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Anna Stewart

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Be careful about selling mutual funds all at once! Even with the 0% long-term capital gains rate, a large sale could trigger other tax consequences like making more of your Social Security taxable, pushing you into a higher bracket for other income, or affecting ACA subsidies if you get insurance through the marketplace. Consider selling in batches across tax years to spread out the impact. Also, look into "asset swapping" where you sell losers in taxable accounts and repurchase similar (but not identical) funds in retirement accounts to maintain your investment allocation while harvesting tax losses.

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Layla Sanders

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This is really good advice. Last year I sold a bunch of mutual funds to pay for college and got hit with the NIIT (Net Investment Income Tax) of 3.8% that I wasn't expecting because the sale temporarily pushed our income over the threshold. Definitely spread out those sales if possible!

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This is exactly the kind of strategic thinking that can make a huge difference in your FAFSA results! Your approach of maxing out retirement contributions is spot-on - those accounts are completely excluded from the FAFSA asset calculation. One additional consideration: since you mentioned you have 5 paychecks left this year, make sure your employer's payroll system can handle the increased contribution amounts in time. Some companies need advance notice for significant 401k changes, especially near year-end when they're processing annual limits. Also, regarding your RV loan payoff strategy - that's smart because it reduces your cash assets (which count against you) while eliminating debt (which doesn't help you on FAFSA anyway since consumer debt isn't considered). Just make sure the timing works with your cash flow needs. The timing of your mutual fund sales is crucial too. You want those gains to show up in the tax year before your child's sophomore year FAFSA if possible, since FAFSA looks at the "prior-prior year" tax return. This way the income bump won't affect aid calculations until later in college when you've already benefited from the asset sheltering. One last thought - consider whether any of those mutual fund positions have losses you could harvest first. You can offset gains with losses while still accomplishing your goal of moving assets to retirement accounts.

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Jade O'Malley

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This is incredibly comprehensive advice, thank you! The point about employer payroll timing is something I hadn't thought about - I'll check with HR tomorrow to make sure they can process the contribution changes in time. The timing strategy you mentioned about mutual fund sales is particularly interesting. So if my kid is starting college fall 2025, the FAFSA will look at our 2023 tax return for the first year, right? That means any gains from sales this year (2024) won't hit the FAFSA calculation until his sophomore year. That gives us more flexibility with the timing. I do have some positions with losses that I could harvest first - mostly some tech stocks that are underwater. Would it make sense to sell those at a loss this year and then use the proceeds to fund the IRA contributions, while keeping the winning mutual funds for next year's sales?

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Actually, I need to correct something about the FAFSA timing. For students starting college in fall 2025, the FAFSA will use your 2023 tax return (the "prior-prior year" rule). So any capital gains from sales you make in 2024 won't appear on the FAFSA until your child's sophomore year, which is exactly what you want! Your tax loss harvesting strategy is excellent. Selling the underwater positions this year accomplishes several things: you get tax losses to offset other income, you free up cash to max out IRA contributions, and you avoid having those losing positions drag down your portfolio. Just be careful about the wash sale rule - don't repurchase the same or "substantially identical" securities within 30 days of the sale. One more tip: if you have any losing positions in taxable accounts and winning positions of the same funds in retirement accounts, you could sell the losers in taxable and buy more of the winners in your IRA/401k. This lets you maintain your overall asset allocation while harvesting the tax benefits.

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Your strategy is really solid! I went through this same process two years ago with my oldest. One thing I'd add - don't forget about the American Opportunity Tax Credit (AOTC) when planning your income levels. You can claim up to $2,500 per student for the first four years of college, but it starts phasing out at $80K AGI for single filers ($160K for married filing jointly). Since you're looking at around $106K taxable income after retirement contributions, you should still qualify for the full credit. But it's worth keeping in mind for future years - sometimes it makes sense to manage your retirement withdrawals or Roth conversions to stay under the AOTC phase-out thresholds while your kids are in school. Also, regarding your question about distributions not counting as income for FAFSA - be careful here. While retirement account balances don't count as assets, any distributions you take (including both contributions and earnings) DO count as income on the FAFSA. So if you need to tap those accounts during college years, it will affect aid eligibility for the following year. The beauty of your current plan is that you're sheltering assets NOW while your child is applying, but you're not planning to take distributions until much later when FAFSA won't matter anymore.

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Sunny Wang

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This is really helpful context about the AOTC! I hadn't fully considered how that credit phases out. Your point about managing future retirement withdrawals to stay under the phase-out thresholds is smart planning - it's not just about the current FAFSA filing but thinking ahead to all four years of college. The clarification about distributions counting as income is crucial too. I was getting confused about that distinction. So our current strategy of moving assets into retirement accounts helps us now for FAFSA purposes, but we need to be careful about timing any future distributions during the college years. Good thing we're planning this as long-term retirement money anyway! Do you know if there's a particular order that makes sense for tapping different accounts if we absolutely had to access funds during college? Like Roth contributions first since they don't trigger income, then maybe 401k loans, then traditional IRA/401k distributions as a last resort?

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