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Keisha Robinson

Are you self employed if you only worked for one company as a film extra?

So I finally got some income last year working as a film extra for about a month and a half. Made around $8800 from the same production company the entire time. I just assumed I wouldn't need to file taxes since it wasn't that much money, and when I checked the IRS website tool thing it seemed to confirm that. But here's where I'm confused - I was talking to another extra friend who said she files as self-employed, not as an employee. She mentioned if I made over $400 and I'm self-employed, I'd have to file. But I honestly have no idea if I count as self-employed or not. I did get a W-2 form, which the IRS site says is what employees receive. But I don't think I was ever actually considered a regular employee of the production company? It was just a short gig. I didn't work at all after this job since I went back to school, so I was basically unemployed the rest of 2024. So am I employed, self-employed, both, or neither? My status for filing is getting really confusing and giving me a headache trying to figure it out. Any help would be super appreciated!

If you received a W-2, then you were classified as an employee, not self-employed. This is actually good news for you! As an employee, you don't have to worry about self-employment taxes, which would have been an additional 15.3% on your earnings. The distinction isn't about how long you worked or whether it was just one company - it's about the legal relationship. When a company gives you a W-2, they've already withheld taxes from your paycheck, including Social Security and Medicare. Your friend who works as an extra might have a different arrangement where she gets 1099 forms instead of W-2s, which would make her self-employed. Different production companies handle this differently. Since you have a W-2, you'll follow the regular employee filing requirements. With $8800 in income, you likely should file a tax return even if you aren't required to. You may be eligible for a refund of some of the withheld taxes.

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Oh that's a relief! I was worried I'd messed up by not filing. So if I have a W-2, does that automatically mean I don't need to worry about the $400 self-employment threshold? And do you think I should go ahead and file even though the IRS tool said I didn't need to?

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That's right - the $400 threshold only applies to self-employment income, which doesn't apply to you since you have W-2 wages. You're completely clear of that requirement. As for whether you should file even though the tool said you don't need to, I generally recommend filing anyway. If they withheld any federal income tax from your paychecks (check box 2 on your W-2), you might be due a refund. Since you only worked part of the year and made $8800, it's very likely you'll get money back. The only way to get that refund is to file.

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Did it actually explain why extras sometimes get W-2s and sometimes get 1099s? I've worked as an extra for years and I've gotten both, sometimes even from the same company in different years. It's incredibly confusing.

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I'm skeptical about using some random website for tax advice. How do you know they're giving accurate information? Couldn't you just call the IRS directly instead of trusting a third party?

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Yes, it explained that it depends on how the production company classifies workers. Some consider extras to be independent contractors (1099) while others treat them as temporary employees (W-2). The key difference is who controls how the work is performed - if the company directs when, where and how you work, you're typically an employee. Regarding calling the IRS, I tried that route first and spent hours on hold. I understand the skepticism about online services, but taxr.ai isn't giving tax advice - it's analyzing your specific documents based on IRS rules and explaining your obligations. The information comes directly from IRS publications, just presented in a way that's easier to understand for your specific situation.

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Former film payroll person here! Let me clarify something: in the film industry, whether you're classified as an employee (W-2) or independent contractor (1099) often depends on the production company's payroll practices and sometimes the state you're working in. Most legitimate productions run extras through payroll as W-2 employees because they control when you work, what you wear, where you stand, etc. - all factors that make you an employee under IRS guidelines. Some smaller productions might incorrectly classify extras as independent contractors (1099) to avoid paying the employer portion of taxes, but that's often misclassification. If you received a W-2, be thankful! The production did it correctly, and you don't have to pay self-employment tax. Your friend who files as self-employed likely receives 1099s instead of W-2s.

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Wait, does that mean if I'm getting 1099s as an extra I'm being misclassified? I've been paying self-employment taxes for years but the production companies totally control everything about my work!

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You might indeed be misclassified. The IRS uses a control test - if the company controls what you do and how you do it, you should generally be classified as an employee (W-2), not an independent contractor (1099). For film extras, since the production tells you exactly when to show up, what to wear, where to stand, when to move, etc., you typically meet the definition of an employee. Some production companies misclassify extras as independent contractors to save on payroll taxes, but this isn't usually correct under IRS guidelines. If you believe you're misclassified, you can file Form SS-8 with the IRS for a determination, though be aware this might create tension with companies that hire you.

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One thing nobody mentioned - if you got a W-2 and had federal taxes withheld, you should DEFINITELY file even if you're not required to! Otherwise, you're just giving the government free money that should be returned to you as a refund. Check box 2 on your W-2 form. If there's any amount there, that's money that was taken from your paycheck for federal taxes. With only $8800 in income for the year and being a student, you'll likely get most or all of that back. I made a similar mistake my first year working in film and lost out on a $700 refund because I waited too long to file. Don't make my mistake!

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Wow thank you!!! I just checked my W-2 and there's almost $500 in box 2! I had no idea I might get that back. I'm definitely filing now!

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You can still claim refunds for up to 3 years after the filing deadline! If your mistake was within the last 3 years, you can still file for those years and get your money.

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