If I earn under $13,850 a year but have some gig work over $400, do I still need to file taxes with the IRS?
I'm a bit confused about the tax filing requirements. I've always heard that if you make under the standard deduction ($13,850), you don't need to file taxes. But I've been doing some side gig work and made about $9,500 total this year, with around $2,000 of that coming from freelance design projects. Someone told me that even though my total income is well below the $13,850 threshold, I still have to file because of the self-employment income being over $400. This seems contradictory to me. If I'm below the poverty line and don't owe income tax, why would I need to file just because some of my money came from gig work? Can someone explain what I'm missing here? Are there different filing requirements for self-employment income versus regular W-2 income? Does this mean practically everyone has to file regardless of how little they make if they do any kind of side hustle?
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LordCommander
You're hitting on one of the most confusing parts of the tax code! The $13,850 filing threshold applies to regular W-2 income (jobs where taxes are withheld). But there's a separate rule for self-employment income - if you make $400+ from gig work/freelancing/self-employment, you need to file regardless of your total income. This is because self-employment income is subject to self-employment tax (15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) which kicks in at $400, even if you don't owe any income tax. When you work for an employer, they pay half of these taxes for you, but as a self-employed person, you're responsible for both halves. So in your case with $2,000 in freelance income, you would need to file, mainly to pay the self-employment tax on that portion. Your regular income might not trigger income tax, but the self-employment portion still needs to be reported.
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Lucy Lam
•Wait so even if im under the poverty line I still gotta pay the 15.3% on my etsy shop income?? That seems really unfair to poor people trying to make a little extra cash. Does this mean I also owe back taxes for the last few years? I never filed because I thought I didn't have to since I make less than 10k total.
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LordCommander
•Yes, unfortunately you still have to pay the 15.3% self-employment tax on your Etsy income if you made over $400 from it, even if your total income is below the poverty line. This is because it's specifically for Social Security and Medicare contributions. Regarding back taxes, technically yes, you would owe for previous years if you had over $400 in self-employment income. If you're concerned, you might want to file for those previous years. The IRS can be somewhat understanding if you file voluntarily before they contact you, and payment plans are available if you can't pay all at once.
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Aidan Hudson
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Zoe Wang
•Does this service actually work if you've made mistakes in previous years? I'm in the same boat and worried the IRS is going to come after me. Did it help you file for previous years too or just current year?
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Connor Richards
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Aidan Hudson
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Connor Richards
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Grace Durand
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Steven Adams
•Wait how does this even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible. How can a third party service possibly get you through faster? Sounds like a scam to me.
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Alice Fleming
•Seriously doubt this works. I've tried EVERYTHING to get through to the IRS. If this actually worked, everyone would be using it. Did they just take your money and leave you hanging?
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Grace Durand
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Alice Fleming
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Hassan Khoury
The two filing requirements exist for different reasons: - The $13,850 threshold is about INCOME TAX - The $400 threshold is about SELF-EMPLOYMENT TAX (Social Security & Medicare) When you work for a company, you pay 7.65% for SS & Medicare, and your employer pays the other 7.65% (total 15.3%). When you're self-employed, you have to pay BOTH halves = 15.3%. That's why the IRS wants you to file if you made $400+ in self-employment, even if you don't owe income tax. So if you made $9,500 total with $2,000 from gig work, you won't owe income tax (under $13,850) but you will owe self-employment tax on the $2,000 (minus any business expenses). You'd use Schedule C to report the business income/expenses and Schedule SE to calculate the self-employment tax.
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Victoria Stark
•But this seems super unfair to people barely getting by. So the tax code basically says "ur so poor u dont owe taxes... unless ur self employed then pay up"?? Is there any way around this or any special credits for low income self employed people?
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Hassan Khoury
•You make a good point about the seeming unfairness. There are actually some options that can help. You may qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) which is specifically designed for lower-income workers, including self-employed people. This credit is refundable, meaning you can get money back even if you don't owe income tax. Also, don't forget about business deductions. You can deduct legitimate business expenses from your self-employment income before calculating the 15.3% tax. This includes things like supplies, mileage, home office expenses, phone/internet costs used for business, etc. For many gig workers, these deductions can significantly reduce the taxable self-employment income, sometimes by 30-50% depending on your situation.
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Benjamin Kim
Am I the only one who thinks it's stupid that you have to file the regular way if you make under $13,850 from a job, but if you make $400 from trying to hustle on the side you have to file??? Does turbo tax handle this properly or do I need to do someting special?
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Samantha Howard
•TurboTax does handle this correctly. I was in this situation and it asked if I had any self-employment income. When I entered my DoorDash earnings, it automatically added Schedule C and SE to my return. It also walked me through possible deductions like mileage and phone expenses that helped lower the self-employment tax I owed.
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