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AstroAce

Are RMD distributions to a deceased person's bank account considered part of their estate or do inherited IRA beneficiaries have rights to it?

My mom had an IRA where she was taking her Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) each month. The bank automatically froze her checking account when they were notified of her passing by Social Security. From what I understand, money can still be deposited into the frozen account, but nothing can be withdrawn. My brother and I are the named beneficiaries on her IRA. The estate has a trust that will distribute assets to me, my brother, and a few other relatives after all her debts are paid off. I believe the checking account is going to be included in this trust. What I'm confused about is: if her monthly RMD gets deposited into the frozen checking account, does that money become part of the trust (split between multiple people) or since my brother and I are the named IRA beneficiaries, would we be entitled to split that specific distribution between just the two of us? I'm thinking about stopping the RMDs so they don't go into the frozen account, but I'm worried it might be too late to prevent the next scheduled distribution. Any advice would be appreciated - this is all new territory for me.

I've dealt with this exact situation before. The key thing to understand is that RMDs stop when someone passes away - there's no RMD requirement for the year of death. However, if an RMD was already processed and deposited after death but before the financial institution knew about the death, you have a specific situation. Any money that was already in your mom's bank account at the time of death becomes part of her estate and will be handled according to the trust's terms. However, IRA beneficiary designations typically override will/trust provisions for the actual IRA account. For that specific distribution that landed in the account after death, it technically came from an account where you and your brother were the named beneficiaries. I would suggest speaking with the estate attorney, as they might be able to help you document that this particular deposit was an IRA distribution that should pass directly to the named beneficiaries rather than going through the trust.

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Jamal Brown

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If the distribution happened after death, wouldn't that be considered an invalid distribution since the account owner was deceased? I'm dealing with something similar with my dad's accounts and was told any distributions taken after death have to be "returned" to the IRA before the inherited IRA can be properly set up. Is that not correct?

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That's a good question about post-death distributions. The timing is really important here. If the distribution was already in process before death but landed in the account after death, it's generally considered a valid distribution that was part of the deceased's RMD obligation for the year. The situation you're describing is a bit different - if someone at the financial institution processed a brand new distribution after the date of death, that might indeed need to be returned to properly set up the inherited IRA. Each financial institution can have slightly different policies on how they handle these timing issues, which is why working with both the estate attorney and the financial institution is so important.

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Mei Zhang

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I went through a similar situation with my spouse's IRA last year and found a tool that was incredibly helpful. Check out https://taxr.ai - they have a document analyzer specifically for inherited IRAs and estate distributions. I uploaded statements and beneficiary forms, and it gave me clear answers about which assets were subject to beneficiary designations versus what went through the estate. The tool immediately identified that the RMD that hit the account after death was actually subject to the beneficiary designation, not the trust terms. It saved me hours of research and confusion!

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Does this tool actually work with inheritance tax situations? I'm skeptical about AI handling something this complex. Did you need to speak with a human at some point or did it really just analyze the documents automatically?

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How does the tool handle situations where there are multiple beneficiaries with different percentages? My dad's IRA has me at 60% and my sister at 40%, and I'm wondering if this would work for our situation too.

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Mei Zhang

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Yes, it absolutely works with inheritance tax situations. I was skeptical too at first, but it correctly identified which assets were subject to beneficiary designations versus the will. The document analysis is automated, but they explain everything in plain English. I didn't need to speak with anyone - just uploaded the statements and beneficiary forms. For situations with different beneficiary percentages, it handles that perfectly. You just upload the beneficiary designation forms along with account statements, and it calculates exactly how much each beneficiary is entitled to receive. It would definitely work for your 60/40 split situation.

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Just wanted to follow up about using taxr.ai that someone mentioned above. I tried it for my dad's IRA situation with the different beneficiary percentages, and it was actually really helpful! It analyzed all the documents and clearly showed that post-death distributions from the IRA should go to the named beneficiaries according to the percentages on the beneficiary form, not through the estate. It even identified specific IRS guidance on this topic that I was able to share with the attorney. Saved me from potentially losing thousands that would have otherwise gone through probate. Definitely worth checking out if you're in a similar situation!

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CosmicCaptain

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I had a really frustrating experience trying to resolve almost the exact same situation. After weeks of getting nowhere with the IRA custodian, I used https://claimyr.com to get through to an actual human at the IRS. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they wait on hold with the IRS for you and call when an agent picks up. Once I finally got through to the IRS, they confirmed that distributions made after death but before the account was frozen should go to the named beneficiaries, not the estate. The IRS agent even sent me the specific regulation to show the attorney. Saved me weeks of back and forth!

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How exactly does this work? They just sit on hold for you? That seems too simple. How long did it take them to actually reach someone at the IRS?

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I'm sorry but this sounds like BS. No way the IRS is going to give tax advice about inherited IRAs over the phone. They usually just direct you to the publications or tell you to talk to a tax professional.

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CosmicCaptain

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They literally wait on hold for you! When an IRS agent picks up, you get a call and are connected with them. It took about 2 hours for them to reach someone, which was way faster than my previous attempts where I gave up after 3+ hours on hold. The IRS won't give personalized tax advice, you're right about that. But they absolutely will clarify which regulations apply to specific situations. In my case, the agent directed me to the exact section in Publication 590-B that addresses distributions after death. They didn't tell me what to do - they provided the official guidance that I could then share with my attorney.

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I need to apologize about my skeptical comment earlier. I actually tried Claimyr after posting that comment because I was tired of waiting on hold with the IRS about my mother's estate tax questions. Not only did they get me through to someone in about 90 minutes, but the IRS representative was really helpful in clarifying the rules about post-death distributions. The agent explained that any RMD that occurs after death but before the financial institution is notified should be treated according to the beneficiary designation, not as part of the general estate. I was able to get the specific citation from Publication 590-B to share with the executor. Saved me a lot of money that would have gone through probate otherwise!

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Another thing to consider - when was your mom's death compared to when the RMD was processed? If she passed early in the month but the RMD wasn't scheduled until later in the month, you might be able to contact the financial institution and have them redirect that RMD to the inherited IRA beneficiaries directly. I went through this with my uncle's accounts. The key is to act quickly and get the death certificate to both Social Security AND the financial institution holding the IRA. Sometimes they don't communicate with each other as quickly as you'd expect.

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AstroAce

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The timing is a bit tight. Mom passed away on the 14th, and her RMDs are scheduled for the 20th of each month. We already notified Social Security (they're the ones who told the bank), but we haven't sent the death certificate to the financial institution with the IRA yet. Do you think there's still time to redirect it?

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You should contact the financial institution with the IRA immediately - like today if possible. With the death being just 6 days before the scheduled RMD, you might still have time to stop it. Send the death certificate by the fastest method they accept. Even if you can't stop it, notifying them creates a record that you attempted to stop the distribution before it occurred, which can help your case for having that money directed to the beneficiaries rather than the trust. Make sure to document every conversation - get names, dates, and reference numbers when you speak with them.

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Has anyone mentioned whether your mother had already satisfied her RMD requirement for the year before passing? If the monthly payments were just her way of spreading out her annual requirement but she'd already withdrawn enough to satisfy the IRS minimum for the year, that might affect how this distribution is viewed.

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Dmitry Petrov

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That's a good point. If the deceased had already met their annual RMD requirement, any additional distributions would be considered voluntary withdrawals rather than required distributions. That might affect how they're treated in the estate.

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StarSurfer

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In my experience as a beneficiary on my grandmother's accounts, you should focus on working with the IRA custodian directly rather than just the bank. Contact the IRA provider, notify them of the death, and ask specifically about any pending distributions. They can usually redirect any pending RMDs directly to the beneficiaries or halt them entirely. Don't just rely on the trust attorney or bank - they're looking at the whole estate, not necessarily advocating for proper handling of the IRA beneficiary designations.

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