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I can relate to this frustration! Filed with TurboTax on February 12th and had a similar experience - federal refund came via direct deposit within 10 days, but my Missouri state refund arrived as a paper check last week despite selecting electronic deposit. When I called Missouri DOR, they explained that their system flags certain returns for "enhanced verification" which automatically switches the disbursement method to paper checks. The representative mentioned this happens more frequently during peak filing season when their fraud detection algorithms are more sensitive. Regarding the transcript issue, I'd recommend checking both your Account Transcript AND your Return Transcript on irs.gov - sometimes one updates before the other. Also, make sure you're looking at the 2023 tax year specifically. The IRS phone lines have been swamped, but if you call right at 7am Eastern, you'll have better luck getting through. Don't panic though - this seems to be a common issue this filing season based on what I'm seeing in various tax forums.
I just went through this exact scenario two weeks ago! Filed with H&R Block on February 8th, federal direct deposit worked perfectly, but Missouri sent me a paper check despite selecting electronic deposit. After reading through all these responses, I called Missouri DOR yesterday and got some additional clarity that might help others. The rep told me that their "enhanced verification" system has been particularly aggressive this year due to increased identity theft attempts. She mentioned that even something as simple as using a different browser or device to file compared to last year can trigger their paper check protocol. For the IRS transcript issue - mine took exactly 41 days to show up after filing. What helped me was creating an account on irs.gov and checking both the Account Transcript AND the Wage & Income Transcript. Sometimes the W&I transcript updates first and can give you confidence that they have your information. Also, if you have access to your H&R Block account, check the "Where's My Refund" section - it should show an acceptance confirmation from the IRS even if the transcript isn't updated yet.
This is incredibly helpful information! I'm a newcomer here and currently dealing with almost the exact same situation. Filed with TaxAct on February 15th, got my federal refund via direct deposit last week, but just received a Missouri paper check yesterday despite selecting DD. Reading through all these responses has been such a relief - I was starting to think I had made some mistake in my filing! The detail about different browsers/devices triggering the paper check system is fascinating and makes total sense from a security perspective. Quick question for everyone: has anyone successfully gotten Missouri to switch back to direct deposit for future years after this happens, or does it seem to be a permanent flag on the account? Also wondering if there's any way to proactively avoid this next year or if it's just the nature of their system. Thanks for sharing all this knowledge!
Welcome to the community! I'm glad these responses have been helpful for you. Regarding your question about getting Missouri to switch back to DD - I actually called them about this last year after the same thing happened to me. The representative told me that once your account gets flagged for "enhanced verification," it typically stays that way for 2-3 tax years as a security measure. However, she mentioned that if you file early (before January 31st) and use the exact same filing method, device, and banking information as the year it got flagged, there's a chance it might go back to direct deposit. No guarantees though - it seems like their system errs on the side of caution. For next year, I'd recommend keeping detailed notes about exactly how you filed this year (which device, browser, even time of day) so you can replicate it exactly. Also, make sure your address and banking info don't change between now and next filing season if possible!
Just a heads up from someone who works in payroll - if your goal is truly to break even, be a little conservative with your adjustments. It's generally better to get a small refund than to owe, especially since owing more than $1,000 can sometimes trigger underpayment penalties. Also, if you're paying for school, double check if your parents might be claiming you as a dependent on their taxes. That would affect your ability to claim certain education credits yourself. One last tip - the IRS withholding calculator (mentioned above) is actually really good but you need to have your most recent paystub and tax return handy to get the most accurate results.
As someone who recently went through this exact same process, I'd recommend starting with the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator that others mentioned, but also keeping a few things in mind: First, since you're paying tuition out of pocket, make sure you understand which education benefits you can claim. The American Opportunity Tax Credit can be worth up to $2,500 and is partially refundable, which means it could be contributing to your large refund even if you owe no taxes. Second, when you adjust your W-4, start conservatively. Maybe aim to reduce your refund to $2,000-2,500 this year rather than going straight to breaking even. This gives you a buffer while you learn how the new system works. Finally, consider the timing - if you make changes now, you'll have fewer paychecks left in the year to spread the adjustment across, which means each remaining paycheck will see a bigger change in withholding. You might want to calculate whether that works with your budget or if you should make a smaller adjustment now and fine-tune it for next year. The key is getting comfortable with the process before trying to hit that perfect $0 balance!
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Just went through this exact situation last month! The good news is they'll only take from your federal refund for state tax debt. I owed about $800 to my state and was worried they'd hit both refunds too, but they only took it from federal. Got my full state refund a few weeks later. The offset letter should tell you exactly how much they're taking - definitely save that for your records!
Has anyone used the "check the box" election (Form 8832) to treat their wholly owned LLC differently? My accountant mentioned this might give us more flexibility than just defaulting to disregarded entity status.
Be careful with that. If you elect to treat your LLC as a corporation using Form 8832, you'd create a parent/subsidiary relationship instead of having a disregarded entity. This would significantly complicate your tax situation, potentially requiring consolidated returns or creating double taxation issues depending on how it's structured.
I went through this exact same situation last year when our S-Corp acquired a small IT consulting firm. The confusion about where to report the disregarded entity's EIN on the 1120S is totally understandable - there really isn't a specific line item for it. What I learned from our tax preparer is that the key is in the EIN application process. When you applied for the disregarded entity's EIN (Form SS-4), you should have indicated the "responsible party" and the tax classification. Even though an individual SSN was required as the responsible party, the IRS systems link that EIN to your S-Corp for tax reporting purposes. One thing that helped us was keeping a detailed memo in our tax files explaining the acquisition, the disregarded entity election, and how we're treating the income. This documentation proved valuable when we had questions during our S-Corp examination last year. The IRS examiner appreciated having the clear paper trail showing the business relationship. Also, make sure you're consistent in how you handle the 1099 reporting - if the disregarded entity is receiving 1099s under its EIN, just include those amounts in the appropriate income categories on your 1120S. The IRS computer matching systems are pretty sophisticated at tracking these relationships now.
MoonlightSonata
One important thing to watch for with multiple W2s - Social Security tax. Each employer withholds 6.2% of your wages for Social Security up to the annual wage limit ($147,000 for 2022). If your combined income from both jobs exceeded that limit, you may have overpaid Social Security tax that you can get back when filing.
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Mateo Gonzalez
ā¢Is this something tax software automatically catches? I made about $160k combined between my two jobs last year but I'm not sure if I got this credit.
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MoonlightSonata
ā¢Most major tax software (TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.) should catch this automatically when you enter multiple W2s. The software will calculate if you exceeded the Social Security wage base and add the excess as a credit on your return. If you're doing your taxes by hand, you'll need to calculate this yourself on your Form 1040. This is definitely one of those situations where software is worth it, since it's an easy thing to miss if you're doing it manually.
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Nia Williams
Just wantd to mention, when I had 2 w2s I just added the box 1 income from both, added the fed witholding together, and the state witholding together. Enter those on your 1040 and ur good to go! No need to complicate it imo.
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Luca Ricci
ā¢This is incorrect advice! You cannot just add the totals from Box 1 and enter as a single amount. You need to enter each W2 separately in your tax return. There are multiple boxes on the W2 beyond just income and withholding that need to be reported individually.
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Sophia Carson
ā¢@Luca Ricci is absolutely right here. Each W-2 needs to be entered separately because the IRS matches your return against the individual W-2s they receive from your employers. If you just combine the totals, it could trigger a mismatch notice from the IRS later. Plus, there are other important boxes on the W-2 like state wages, state withholding, and various codes that need to be reported accurately for each employer. Tax software makes this easy by letting you enter multiple W-2s in separate screens.
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