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I've been lurking on this thread for a while dealing with my own Error Code 101 nightmare, and I'm amazed at how many different root causes everyone has discovered! This has been like a masterclass in EIN application troubleshooting. After reading through all these solutions, I want to add one more potential cause that I discovered through trial and error: address formatting issues. I was getting Error 101 consistently even after trying the browser fixes, checking for old applications, and verifying my SSN records were clean. Turns out the problem was that I was entering my address exactly as it appears on my driver's license, which includes "Apt 4B" in the address line. But apparently the IRS system is very picky about how apartment/unit numbers are formatted. When I changed it from "123 Main St Apt 4B" to "123 Main St #4B" (using the pound symbol instead of "Apt"), the application finally went through. The IRS agent I eventually spoke with mentioned that their system has specific formatting requirements for addresses, especially for apartments, suites, and PO boxes. She said using abbreviations like "Apt," "Suite," or "Unit" sometimes causes validation errors, but symbols like "#" or "Ste" work better. Just another thing to add to the growing checklist of potential Error 101 causes! It's crazy how many tiny details can trip up this system. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread - you've created an incredible troubleshooting resource!

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LunarLegend

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This address formatting issue is incredibly insightful, Mateusius! I never would have thought that something as simple as writing "Apt" versus "#" could cause such a major roadblock. It really shows how finicky these government systems can be about data entry. Your discovery adds yet another layer to this Error Code 101 mystery. At this point, we've identified so many potential causes: browser settings, VPNs, name mismatches with Social Security records, incomplete old applications, vague business descriptions, and now address formatting issues. It's like the IRS application system is a house of cards that can be knocked over by the tiniest inconsistency! I'm starting to think there should be an official troubleshooting guide that covers all these potential issues. This thread has become more helpful than anything on the actual IRS website. For anyone else struggling with Error Code 101, I'd recommend going through this entire conversation systematically - there's probably a solution here that applies to your specific situation. Thanks for adding this address formatting tip to our collective knowledge base. It's amazing how this community has crowdsourced solutions that could save people weeks of frustration!

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Wow, this thread has become an incredible resource for troubleshooting Error Code 101! As someone who just successfully got my EIN after dealing with this same error for almost two weeks, I wanted to add my experience to help others. In my case, it was actually a combination of issues. First, I had the address formatting problem that Mateusius mentioned - I was using "Unit 12" instead of "#12" which was causing validation errors. But even after fixing that, I was still getting Error 101. The second issue was that I had accidentally selected the wrong state in the "principal business location" field. I live right on the border between two states and put my mailing address state instead of where my business is actually physically located. The IRS system apparently cross-references multiple pieces of information for consistency, and this mismatch was triggering the error. What finally helped me figure this out was keeping a detailed log of each attempt (as Carmen suggested earlier) and changing only ONE thing at a time. When I fixed the address formatting but still got the error, I knew to look for other inconsistencies in my application. For anyone still struggling: I'd recommend creating a checklist based on all the solutions in this thread and working through them systematically. Also, print out your application before submitting so you can review every single field for potential formatting or consistency issues. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot mistakes you've been overlooking! This community has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences and solutions!

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This is such a comprehensive approach, FireflyDreams! Your method of changing only ONE thing at a time and keeping detailed logs is brilliant - it's like debugging code but for government forms. The fact that you had multiple issues (address formatting AND wrong state selection) really shows how these problems can compound. Your point about the IRS system cross-referencing multiple fields for consistency is fascinating and explains why some of these errors are so hard to pin down. It's not just about individual fields being correct, but about how all the information fits together logically. As a newcomer to this community, I have to say this entire thread has been eye-opening. I was dreading applying for my EIN after hearing horror stories, but now I feel like I have a complete troubleshooting roadmap thanks to everyone's shared experiences. The systematic approach you've outlined - working through solutions one at a time and documenting everything - seems like the smart way to tackle this. I'm curious though - when you say you selected the wrong state for "principal business location," was this an honest mistake or is this distinction between mailing address and business location not clearly explained on the application? I work from home so I assume both would be the same, but now I'm wondering if there are other subtle distinctions like this that could trip people up. Thanks for contributing another piece to this incredibly helpful puzzle!

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Amina Sow

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Just to clarify something I'm seeing in other comments - the 1099-NEC filing threshold is still $600 for 2025 (for 2024 payments). The $800 threshold rumor was from a proposed change that didn't get implemented. Always verify tax changes on irs.gov rather than relying on online forums.

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Thanks for catching that! This is why I get so confused with taxes - there's so much conflicting information out there. I'll definitely stick with the $600 threshold and check the official IRS site. One last question - if I'm filing my taxes now but still need to issue late 1099s, should I wait to file my return until I've sent the 1099s, or can I do them separately?

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Justin Evans

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You can file your tax return and issue the late 1099s separately - they don't need to be done at the same time. Your Schedule C deduction for the contractor payments is based on when you paid them in 2024, not when you issue the 1099s. The 1099s are information returns that tell the IRS (and your contractors) about payments you made, but they don't affect your ability to claim the business expense on your return. Just make sure to issue those 1099s as soon as possible to minimize any late filing penalties. The sooner you get them filed, the lower the penalty will be.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! You absolutely can claim the $6,500 contractor expense on your Schedule C even without receiving a 1099 from them. As others mentioned, you report it on line 11 "Contract labor." The key thing is having good documentation - which it sounds like you do with your business account records. Keep copies of any emails, invoices, contracts, or work deliverables that show what the payments were for. Bank statements showing the transfers are also great backup documentation. One thing I learned the hard way is to always get a signed contract upfront that clearly states they're an independent contractor, not an employee. This helps protect you if there are ever questions about worker classification. For future projects, definitely get W-9 forms before starting any work - it makes the 1099 process so much easier! Don't stress too much about this. It's a common situation for small business owners, and as long as you have records showing legitimate business expenses, you're in good shape.

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Ana Rusula

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This is really helpful advice! I'm also a small business owner just getting started with contractors and the documentation piece seems so important. Quick question - when you mention getting a signed contract that states they're an independent contractor, is there specific language that needs to be included? I want to make sure I'm protected from any worker classification issues down the road. Also, do you recommend getting the W-9 before the first payment or can it be anytime before the end of the tax year? I have a few contractors I'm working with now and want to get this right from the start.

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Naila Gordon

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As someone who went through a similar situation as an F-1 student from the Philippines, I can confirm what others have mentioned about the complexity of international student tax situations with investment income. One thing I learned the hard way is that even if your bank didn't withhold taxes on your CD interest, you're still responsible for calculating and paying the correct amount when you file. The 1099-INT you received shows the gross interest earned, but as a non-resident alien, you'll typically owe either 30% (standard rate) or a reduced rate if your country's tax treaty provides for it. For Malaysia specifically, I believe the US-Malaysia tax treaty does provide for a reduced 15% withholding rate on interest income paid to Malaysian residents, but you'll need to verify this applies to your specific situation. The key is determining if you're still considered a Malaysian resident for tax treaty purposes (which sounds likely given your student status and intent to return). Don't forget to file Form 8833 if you claim any treaty benefits - the IRS requires this disclosure form whenever you take a position based on a tax treaty. Also, definitely get that W-8BEN submitted to your credit union for next year to avoid this confusion going forward. The 1040-NR can be intimidating, but Schedule NEC is where you'll report the interest income that's not effectively connected with a US trade or business. Good luck with your filing!

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This is incredibly detailed and helpful - thank you for breaking down the process so clearly! I'm especially glad you mentioned the Schedule NEC part since I was wondering exactly where on the 1040-NR the interest income should go. One follow-up question: when you calculate the 15% tax (assuming the Malaysia treaty applies), do you pay that amount with your tax return, or is there a way to make estimated payments throughout the year? Since my bank didn't withhold anything, I'm worried about owing a large lump sum when I file. Also, did you have any issues with the IRS accepting your treaty position the first time you filed, or was it pretty straightforward once you included Form 8833? I'm nervous about getting it wrong and having complications later.

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Great question about the payment timing! Since your bank didn't withhold anything, you'll calculate the 15% tax on your total interest income and pay it when you file your 1040-NR - there's no need for estimated payments unless your total tax liability is quite large (generally over $1,000). Most F-1 students with CD interest don't hit that threshold. Regarding the treaty position, my experience was pretty smooth once I included Form 8833. The key is being thorough with your documentation - I attached a copy of my passport showing Malaysian citizenship, evidence of my permanent address in Malaysia, and a brief explanation of why I qualified for treaty benefits. The IRS didn't question it, but having everything well-documented gave me peace of mind. One tip: keep copies of everything you submit, including your completed Form 8833 and any supporting documents. If the IRS does have questions later (which is rare), you'll have all your documentation ready. The most important thing is being consistent - if you claim Malaysian residency for treaty purposes, make sure that position is supported throughout your filing.

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I went through this exact situation as an F-1 student from Canada! The key thing to understand is that even though your bank didn't withhold taxes, you're still required to report and pay tax on the interest income when you file your 1040-NR. For Malaysia, you're in luck - the US-Malaysia tax treaty (Article 11) does provide for a reduced withholding rate of 15% on interest income instead of the standard 30%, assuming you're still considered a Malaysian resident for treaty purposes (which sounds like your case since you're a student planning to return). Here's what you need to do: 1. File Form 1040-NR and report the interest on Schedule NEC 2. Calculate 15% tax on your total CD interest income 3. File Form 8833 to claim the treaty benefit - this is mandatory when claiming treaty positions 4. Submit Form W-8BEN to your credit union immediately for future years The process might seem overwhelming, but once you get the forms right, it's straightforward. I'd recommend double-checking the Malaysia treaty language or consulting with your university's international student office if they offer tax assistance. Don't stress too much - lots of international students go through this same situation with investment income!

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11 Does anyone know if the recent tax law changes affected the underpayment penalty thresholds at all? I thought I read something about them being more forgiving for 2024 taxes.

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9 The basic threshold is still $1,000 for 2024, but they did adjust some of the safe harbor percentages. I believe they temporarily reduced the 90% requirement to 80% for certain taxpayers affected by major life changes.

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Arjun Kurti

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I'm going through something similar right now - divorced last year and completely missed updating my W-4. The quarterly penalty calculation mentioned above is spot on and really important to understand. One thing I learned from my tax preparer is that you should also check if you had any major changes in income during the year, not just withholding. If your income dropped significantly after the divorce (like losing a spouse's income or changing jobs), that can actually work in your favor for the safe harbor calculations. Also, don't forget to update your filing status to single or head of household if you have kids - that alone might change your tax liability enough to affect whether you even owe a penalty. The IRS is generally pretty reasonable about life changes like divorce as long as you document everything properly on Form 2210.

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Khalid Howes

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This is really helpful advice about the income changes! I hadn't thought about how losing my ex-spouse's income might actually help with the safe harbor calculations. My total household income definitely dropped after the divorce, so that could work in my favor. Quick question about the filing status change - I don't have kids, so I'd be filing as single. Do you know if changing from married filing jointly to single typically results in higher or lower tax liability? I'm trying to figure out if this status change might reduce my underpayment or make it worse. Also, when you mention documenting everything properly on Form 2210, are you talking about just the attached statement explaining the divorce timing, or is there other documentation I should include?

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Chloe Green

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I can totally relate to this confusion! I just went through the exact same thing with my 8-year-old son. When I saw "Override dependent amount: $2,000" pop up in my tax software, I spent way too much time staring at it wondering if I was missing something important. After reading through all these incredibly helpful responses, I now understand it's just the software showing me the Child Tax Credit amount it calculated automatically. Since my son is under 17 and qualifies as my dependent, that $2,000 is exactly what it should be for 2025. What really put my mind at ease was all the advice from the tax professionals here about trusting the software's calculation unless you have very specific circumstances. I was definitely overthinking it and worried I might need to research some complex tax rule I'd never heard of, but it turns out the software is designed to handle these calculations correctly for straightforward situations like ours. The warning about not trying to artificially increase the number was especially helpful - I'll admit that thought briefly crossed my mind too! But understanding that it has to match actual eligibility based on tax law makes total sense. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences in this thread. It's amazing how much less stressful tax filing becomes when you realize you're not alone in finding certain terminology confusing, and that sometimes the right answer really is just to trust the automatic calculation!

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I'm so glad I found this discussion! I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now - I have a 5-year-old daughter and saw that "Override dependent amount: $2,000" field and immediately started panicking that I was doing something wrong. Reading through everyone's experiences has been such a relief! It's clear that this terminology is just confusing by design - the word "override" really does make it sound like you need to actively change something. But based on all the professional advice shared here, it sounds like the software calculated the correct Child Tax Credit amount automatically. Your point about overthinking it really resonates with me, Chloe. I was also starting to worry I needed to research some complex tax regulation, but it's reassuring to know that for straightforward dependent situations like ours, the best approach is simply trusting the automatic calculation. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's helping me feel much more confident about leaving that amount alone!

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Jessica Nolan

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I'm so glad I stumbled across this discussion! I'm in my first year filing taxes with a dependent (my 4-year-old daughter) and I was completely stumped when I saw "Override dependent amount: $2,000" in my tax software. Like so many others here, that word "override" made me think I was supposed to manually adjust something, but I had no idea what! After reading through all these amazing experiences and professional insights, I now understand that this field is just displaying the Child Tax Credit amount the software automatically calculated based on my daughter's information. Since she's under 17 and qualifies as my dependent, that $2,000 is exactly the correct standard amount for 2025. What really helped me was seeing how universal this confusion is - it makes me feel so much less alone in finding tax terminology intimidating! The consistent advice from all the tax professionals about trusting the software's automatic calculation (and definitely not trying to artificially increase the number) has given me the confidence to just leave it alone. This thread has been incredibly valuable for turning what felt like a major tax obstacle into a clear understanding of how dependent credits work. Sometimes the best action really is no action - just trust that the software is doing what it's designed to do for straightforward situations like ours. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences!

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Welcome to the world of filing with dependents, Jessica! Your experience with that confusing "override" terminology is so relatable - I think every parent goes through that same moment of panic when they first see it. It's crazy how one word can make something straightforward feel so complicated! Your situation with your 4-year-old daughter is exactly like what so many of us have described here - that $2,000 is definitely the correct Child Tax Credit amount, and you're absolutely right to trust the software's automatic calculation. I love how you put it that "sometimes the best action really is no action" - that's become my new motto for tax filing! What's been so amazing about this thread is seeing how common this confusion is across all different family situations. Whether it's first-time parents, blended families, or people with multiple kids, the core message from all the tax professionals has been the same: the software is designed to get these calculations right for most straightforward situations. Thanks for adding your voice to this discussion - it's been so helpful to see yet another example of how this "override dependent amount" field trips up newcomers, but ultimately the solution is just trusting the automatic calculation!

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