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I messed this up on my taxes last year and only reported the net amount I received after the marketplace took their cut. My tax preparer caught it during a review and had me file an amended return. The correct way is definitely to report the FULL amount on Line 1 and then deduct the fees separately. The IRS computers match what the marketplace reports to them against what you report. If those numbers don't match, it could trigger a letter or even an audit. Don't make my mistake - it was a headache to fix!

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Did you have to pay any penalties when you amended your return? I just realized I might have made the same mistake last year.

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This is such a common source of confusion for new Schedule C filers! Based on all the great advice here, I want to emphasize the key point: always report the GROSS amount customers actually paid on Line 1, then deduct ALL your business expenses on the appropriate lines. I made this same mistake my first year selling crafts online - I only reported what hit my bank account after fees were taken out. When I got that scary letter from the IRS asking about the discrepancy between what the marketplace reported and what I filed, I learned real quick that their computers cross-check everything! The way I think about it now: Line 1 is "what did customers pay for my products?" and then lines 8-27 are "what did it cost me to run this business?" Platform fees, payment processing, shipping supplies, materials - it all goes in the expense section. This actually works in your favor because you get to claim MORE deductions while staying compliant with what the marketplace reported to the IRS. Don't stress too much about getting it perfect on your first try - the important thing is being honest and consistent with your reporting!

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Leo Simmons

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This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed as someone just starting out with Schedule C! I've been paralyzed by fear of making a mistake, but your breakdown makes it so much clearer. The way you framed it as "what did customers pay" vs "what did it cost to run the business" really clicked for me. I'm curious though - when you got that letter from the IRS about the discrepancy, how quickly did you have to respond? And was it difficult to resolve once you explained the situation? I want to make sure I do this right from the start, but it's reassuring to know that even if I mess up, it's fixable!

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Help Understanding Why IRS Removed My $10,557 Withholding and Now Shows $3,472 Balance Due Instead of Refund

I'm looking at my transcript from the IRS and I honestly have no idea what I'm looking at. There's all these codes and dates and numbers that are confusing me. Can anyone break down what these things mean and how to actually read them? I just want to know when I might get my refund tbh. Here's what my transcript shows: Internal Revenue Service United States Department of the Treasury This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data Request Date: 11-11-2024 Response 11-10-2024 Account Transcript TAX PERIOD: Dec. 31, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE: $3,472.21 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Nov. 25, 2024 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Nov. 25, 2024 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): $3,472.21 INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED EXEMPTIONS: 01 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $42,233.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $28,383.00 TAX PER RETURN: $3,185.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr 15, 2024 PROCESSING DATE Jun. 17. 2024 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20242205 06-17-2024 $3,185.00 76211-502-50115-4 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-15-2024 -$10,557.00 570 Additional account action pending 06-17-2024 $0.00 971 Notice issued 08-26-2024 $0.00 290 Additional tax assessed 20244405 11-18-2024 $0.00 71254-704-99585-4 807 Reduced or removed W-2 or 1099 04-15-2024 $10,557.00 withholding 290 Additional tax assessed 20244505 11-25-2024 $0.00 71254-699-08470-4 196 Interest charged for late payment 20244505 11-25-2024 $159.81 276 Penalty for late payment of tax 20244505 11-25-2024 $127.40 971 Notice issued 11-25-2024 $0.00 I'm especially confused about the "807 Reduced or removed W-2 or 1099 withholding" line - it looks like my withholding of $10,557.00 was removed? Does that mean I'm not getting a refund? And what's with all those cycle dates and numbers after the codes? I filed back in April but it looks like they're still making adjustments in November. Help!

My transcript been saying 'as of' date March 4th for like 2 months now... anyone else?

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StarSurfer

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Mine too! Starting to think that date dont mean nothing fr

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Cynthia Love

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Looking at your transcript, that code 807 "Reduced or removed W-2 or 1099 withholding" is definitely concerning - it means the IRS removed your $10,557 in withholding credits, which is why you now owe $3,472 instead of getting a refund. This usually happens when they can't verify your W-2s or suspect there's an issue with the withholding reported. You'll need to contact them ASAP to find out why they removed it and provide documentation to get it reinstated. The 971 notices should explain what documentation they need from you.

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Nia Johnson

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This is really helpful @facf45268409! I was wondering if this could be related to identity verification issues? I've heard the IRS sometimes removes withholding when they can't verify someone's identity. Did you get any letters in the mail about this @9461ebb9f50a? Also those penalty and interest charges from November suggest they're treating this like you underpaid, which makes sense if they removed your withholding credits.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Does anyone know if the SALT (State And Local Tax) deduction limitation of $10,000 includes foreign taxes paid? Or are foreign taxes completely separate from this limit?

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Keisha Brown

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Foreign taxes don't count toward the $10,000 SALT deduction limit. The SALT cap only applies to state and local taxes paid within the US - property taxes, state income taxes, etc. Foreign taxes are handled separately through either the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116) or as part of the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion process (Form 2555). This is actually one advantage of working abroad - your foreign taxes don't get caught in the SALT limitation that was introduced in the 2017 tax reforms.

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Nia Davis

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One thing to keep in mind with your Germany situation is the timing of when you can claim the Foreign Tax Credit. Since Germany operates on a calendar year like the US, you should be able to claim the €8,500 you paid for 2024 on your 2024 US return. However, make sure you have proper documentation from the German tax authorities showing the exact amount paid and that it was indeed income tax (not social security or other types of taxes). The IRS can be very particular about this documentation, especially during audits. Also, since you mentioned using TurboTax, be aware that the software sometimes struggles with complex international situations. You might want to double-check its calculations manually or consider getting a consultation with a tax professional who specializes in expat taxes. The Foreign Tax Credit can get complicated when you factor in different tax rates, timing differences, and the interaction with potential state tax obligations. One last tip: keep detailed records of your days in Germany vs any time spent in California or other US states. This documentation could be crucial if California ever challenges your residency status.

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This is really helpful advice about documentation! I'm just starting to navigate this whole foreign tax situation myself. Quick question - when you mention getting documentation from German tax authorities, do you know if the standard tax assessment notice (Steuerbescheid) that Germany sends is sufficient? Or do you need some special form translated into English? I'm worried about getting audited and not having the right paperwork format that the IRS expects.

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The German Steuerbescheid is generally sufficient for IRS purposes, but you'll want to make sure it clearly shows the income tax portion separate from social security taxes. The IRS doesn't require official translations, but it's helpful to have a summary in English that maps the German terms to their US equivalents. What I've found works well is creating a simple spreadsheet that shows: the German tax line items, English translations, and which ones qualify for the Foreign Tax Credit. Keep the original Steuerbescheid with your tax records, and attach the English summary to Form 1116. One gotcha to watch for: if your Steuerbescheid shows withholding taxes paid during the year vs. final assessment, make sure you're only claiming the actual tax liability, not double-counting withholdings that get refunded. The IRS has gotten pickier about this in recent years during audits.

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Great discussion here! One additional thing to consider that I haven't seen mentioned - make sure you have solid documentation of your residency periods for both properties. The IRS can be pretty strict about proving the "use test" especially when there are overlapping ownership periods. I'd recommend gathering utility bills, voter registration records, driver's license addresses, and any other documentation that clearly shows which property was your primary residence during specific time periods. Since you both owned separate homes before marriage, you'll want to be extra careful about demonstrating continuous primary residence use. Also, if either property was ever rented out (even briefly), that could complicate the exclusion calculation. The IRS has specific rules about periods of "nonqualified use" that can reduce your exclusion amount. Worth double-checking your timeline to make sure there weren't any rental periods you might have forgotten about.

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Evelyn Kelly

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the timing consideration for your sales. Since you're married now, you'll want to be extra careful about which tax year each sale falls into, especially if you're considering filing separately. If you sell both properties in the same tax year and file separately, you'll each need to report your respective property sale on your individual return. However, if you can time the sales to fall in different tax years (one in December 2025, one in January 2026), you might have more flexibility in choosing your filing status each year based on what's most advantageous. Also, don't forget about depreciation recapture if either of you ever claimed a home office deduction on these properties. That portion of the gain isn't eligible for the Section 121 exclusion and will be taxed at a 25% rate regardless of your filing status. I'd strongly recommend running the numbers both ways (MFS vs MFJ) with a tax professional who can model different scenarios, including the timing of the sales. The capital gains exclusion benefit might be offset by other tax disadvantages of filing separately, depending on your overall financial picture.

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Sean Murphy

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This is really helpful advice about timing! I hadn't thought about splitting the sales across tax years. Since we're planning to sell both properties this year, would it make sense to accelerate one sale to late 2024 if possible, or delay one to early 2025? Also, regarding the home office depreciation recapture - neither of us claimed home office deductions, but I did use a small portion of my home for some freelance work. I never formally claimed it on taxes though. Should I be concerned about any depreciation issues even if I didn't take the deduction? @Evelyn Kelly - do you know if there s'a minimum threshold for home office use that would trigger these complications, or is it only if you actually claimed the deduction on your tax returns?

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Great question! I'm also a new landlord and went through this exact same confusion last year. Yes, all those utility expenses for your rental units are absolutely deductible business expenses - gas, electric, water, internet, and cable that you're paying for your tenants. One thing that really helped me was setting up a separate business bank account and credit card just for rental property expenses. It makes tracking everything so much easier come tax time. I pay all my rental utilities through that account, so there's a clear paper trail. For your home office situation, since you're using a room exclusively for property management, you can likely deduct the business portion of your home expenses including utilities. Just make sure you're only claiming the percentage that corresponds to your office space. The key thing to remember is these are deductions that reduce your taxable income, not dollar-for-dollar refunds. But they can still save you a significant amount depending on your tax bracket. I'd definitely recommend keeping detailed records of all your expenses and maybe consulting with a tax professional for your first year to make sure you're maximizing your deductions properly.

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This is really helpful advice about setting up separate accounts! I'm just getting started with my first rental property and keeping everything organized seems overwhelming. Did you use a regular business checking account or something specifically for real estate investors? And do you put ALL rental-related expenses on that card, even small stuff like hardware store trips for minor repairs?

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@Emma Anderson Yes, I use everything on the business card - even the small $15 trips to Home Depot for light bulbs or cabinet handles. Those little expenses really add up over the year! I just use a regular business checking account from my local credit union, nothing fancy. The key is consistency - if it s'for the rental property, it goes on that card. Makes reconciling everything at tax time so much easier when you re'not trying to separate business and personal expenses from mixed statements. Plus many business cards offer better rewards for business purchases.

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Luca Conti

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This is such a timely question! I just went through my first year as a rental property owner and had similar questions about utility deductions. Yes, absolutely deduct those utility expenses - they're legitimate business expenses for your rental operation. What surprised me was how much documentation the IRS expects, so start keeping detailed records now. I create a simple spreadsheet tracking each utility bill by property and month. One tip that saved me headaches: take photos of your utility bills when they arrive and store them digitally. I had a water bill go missing last year and trying to get a duplicate from the utility company during tax season was a nightmare. For your home office deduction, measure that room carefully and calculate the exact percentage of your home's square footage. The IRS can be picky about this, so precision helps if you ever get questioned. Also consider opening a separate business bank account if you haven't already - it makes tracking rental income and expenses so much cleaner. I wish someone had told me this from day one instead of trying to sort through mixed personal/business transactions later. Good luck with your first tax season as a landlord! It gets easier once you establish good record-keeping habits.

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@Luca Conti Great advice about taking photos of utility bills! I learned this lesson the hard way when my electric company couldn t'find a bill from 8 months ago during my first tax preparation. Digital backup is definitely key. One question though - do you track your utility expenses monthly or just gather everything at year end? I m'wondering if there s'value in doing a monthly reconciliation to catch any missed deductions or categorization errors before they pile up. Also, have you found any good apps or tools for organizing all these digital receipts, or do you just use folders on your phone/computer?

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