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Klaus Schmidt

Why is my W-2 Box 1 amount less than my actual gross income?

I'm trying to figure out why my W-2 doesn't match what I'm expecting for my gross income, and it's driving me crazy. I need this info to forecast my savings for the next few years. Here's what my income looks like: * Year 1: Base Salary $95,000; bonus $25,000 (bonus paid in year 2) * Year 2: Base Salary $120,000; bonus $38,000 (bonus paid in year 3) I was expecting my Year 2 W-2 Box 1 to show $145,000 (my base + the bonus from Year 1). But when I look at my W-2, the amount is quite a bit lower than what I calculated. **Why is my W-2 Box 1 amount less than what I think my gross income should be?** Am I missing something obvious here? I need to understand this for my financial planning.

Your W-2 Box 1 shows your taxable wages, which is often less than your gross income due to pre-tax deductions. Common pre-tax deductions that reduce your Box 1 amount include: - 401(k) or other retirement plan contributions - Health insurance premiums - Flexible spending accounts (FSA) or health savings accounts (HSA) - Commuter benefits - Dependent care FSA contributions For example, if you contributed $20,000 to your 401(k) and paid $5,000 in health insurance premiums pre-tax, your Box 1 would be approximately $25,000 less than your gross income. To confirm, check your final paystub of the year - it should have year-to-date totals that break down all your pre-tax deductions. The sum of these deductions explains the difference between your gross earnings and what appears in Box 1.

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Thanks for the explanation! I contribute to my 401k but didn't realize it would affect the W-2 numbers like that. Do employer contributions to 401k also reduce the Box 1 amount? And what about HSA contributions that my employer makes - do those reduce Box 1 too?

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Employer contributions to your 401(k) don't affect your W-2 Box 1 amount at all - only your personal contributions reduce that number. These employer contributions aren't considered part of your taxable income in the first place. Employer HSA contributions also don't affect your Box 1 amount. Only your personal pre-tax HSA contributions (typically made through payroll) will reduce your W-2 Box 1 figure. This is why it's beneficial to make HSA contributions through payroll rather than directly - you save on income tax and FICA taxes.

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That sounds helpful. Does it explain how bonuses factor in? My situation is similar to OP but I also get RSUs and stock options that make my tax situation even more confusing.

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Don't forget about other things that can lower Box 1! I noticed nobody mentioned student loan payments that some employers offer as benefits. My company pays $200/month toward my student loans which doesn't show up in Box 1 (up to $5,250 annually is tax-free under current rules). Also, if you have any business expenses that are reimbursed through an accountable plan, those won't show in Box 1 either. And some other benefits like adoption assistance or dependent care benefits have special tax treatments.

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Wait what? Companies can make student loan payments tax-free now? Is this a new thing from the SECURE 2.0 Act? My company offers tuition reimbursement but not student loan payments.

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Yes, it was initially part of COVID relief and then got extended through 2025 in the SECURE 2.0 Act. Employers can contribute up to $5,250 per year toward an employee's student loans, and that money isn't included in your taxable income. It's treated the same way as tuition assistance programs. Not all companies offer this benefit yet, but it's becoming more common as a recruitment and retention tool. Worth asking your HR department if they've considered adding it! The same $5,250 limit applies to combined tuition assistance and student loan repayment, so if you're already getting tuition help, that would count toward the same limit.

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Another thing to check - are you including your bonus correctly in your calculations? Bonuses earned in one year but paid in the next will show up on the W-2 for the year they were PAID, not earned. So your Year 1 bonus paid in Year 2 is part of Year 2's W-2, and your Year 2 bonus paid in Year 3 won't be on your Year 2 W-2 at all.

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That's exactly how I was calculating it! My Year 2 W-2 should include my Year 2 base salary ($120,000) plus my Year 1 bonus ($25,000) for a total of $145,000. But my Box 1 shows about $118,000 instead. Based on other comments, I'm guessing my 401k contributions and health insurance premiums are the reason for the difference. Going to check my last paystub to confirm.

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This confused me so much my first year working at a company with bonuses. I kept thinking my W-2 was wrong because I was forgetting that bonuses are taxed in the year they're paid, not earned. Makes tax planning tricky when you have variable compensation!

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One more thing to consider - if you have any pre-tax transportation benefits (like parking or transit passes), those will also reduce your Box 1 amount. The monthly limit for 2024 is $315 for parking and $315 for transit benefits, so you could see up to $7,560 less in Box 1 if you're maxing out both. Also, if your company offers any cafeteria plan benefits like group-term life insurance over $50,000, the imputed income from that actually increases your Box 1 (though it's often offset by other deductions). Just wanted to mention it since everyone's focusing on what reduces Box 1 - there are some employer benefits that can increase it too. Klaus, with your $27,000 difference ($145k expected vs $118k actual), it sounds like you're probably contributing a significant amount to your 401(k). The 2024 limit is $23,000 (or $30,500 if you're 50+), so that alone could account for most of your difference.

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This is really helpful! I never knew about the transportation benefits reducing Box 1. I've been taking advantage of my company's parking benefit but didn't realize it was pre-tax. That explains another piece of why my Box 1 seemed off compared to my gross pay calculations. The group-term life insurance point is interesting too - I think my company provides $100k coverage, so I might actually have some imputed income showing up that I hadn't considered. It's amazing how many different factors go into that final Box 1 number!

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Klaus, based on your numbers ($145k expected vs $118k actual Box 1), that $27k difference is likely almost entirely from pre-tax deductions. Here's what probably happened: If you're maxing out your 401(k) at $23,000 for 2024, that alone accounts for most of the difference. Add in health insurance premiums (could easily be $3,000-6,000 annually), HSA contributions if you have one (up to $4,300 for individual coverage), and any other pre-tax benefits, and you'll hit that $27k gap pretty quickly. Your calculation method is correct - Year 2 W-2 should show Year 2 base salary plus Year 1 bonus paid in Year 2. The "missing" money isn't actually missing - it's just that your W-2 Box 1 shows what's federally taxable after all pre-tax deductions, not your gross earnings. Check your final December paystub for Year 2. It should show year-to-date totals for all your pre-tax deductions. Add those up and subtract from your gross pay ($145k) - that should match your Box 1 exactly. This will give you the peace of mind that everything is correct for your financial planning.

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This breakdown is exactly what I needed! You're absolutely right - I am maxing out my 401(k) at $23,000, and my health insurance premiums are about $4,200 annually. That gets me to $27,200 right there, which perfectly explains the difference. I was so focused on making sure my bonus timing was right that I completely overlooked how my pre-tax deductions would affect the final Box 1 number. Thanks for walking through the math so clearly - now I can confidently use the $118,000 figure for my financial planning knowing it's correct.

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Great question Klaus! This is actually a really common source of confusion. Your W-2 Box 1 shows your taxable wages after pre-tax deductions, not your gross income. The most likely culprits for that $27,000 difference are: - 401(k) contributions (2024 limit is $23,000 or $30,500 if 50+) - Health insurance premiums - HSA contributions (up to $4,300 individual/$8,550 family for 2024) - Dental/vision insurance premiums - Flexible spending account contributions To verify everything is correct, grab your last paystub from December 2024 - it should show year-to-date totals for all deductions. Add up all your pre-tax deductions and subtract that from your gross pay ($145,000). That number should match your W-2 Box 1 exactly. This is actually good news for your financial planning - those pre-tax deductions are saving you money on taxes! Just make sure to use the Box 1 amount ($118,000) rather than gross income when calculating your tax liability for planning purposes.

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