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Nathan Dell

W2 Box 5 Showing $10,000 Less Than My Annual Salary - Why the Discrepancy?

I've been trying to understand my W2 for this year and there's something that doesn't make sense. My annual salary is $85,000. I get why Box 1 doesn't match that amount (I have pre-tax deductions, plus my Box 12a shows codes D and DD for retirement and health insurance). And Box 3 makes sense since it's capped at $147,000 for Social Security wage base. But what's driving me crazy is Box 5 (Medicare wages). Shouldn't that be my full salary before deductions? Mine shows approximately $75,000 - which is about $10,000 less than my actual salary. My pay rate was the same all year with no changes. What could explain this $10,000 difference between my actual salary and what's showing in Box 5? I thought Medicare tax was supposed to be calculated on total compensation without the caps that apply to Social Security.

The difference you're seeing in Box 5 is likely due to pre-tax deductions that are exempt from Medicare taxes, not just income tax. The most common ones that would explain that $10k gap are: Health insurance premiums paid through a Section 125 cafeteria plan are exempt from Medicare taxes. If you're paying around $400-800/month for health insurance pre-tax, that could easily account for a good chunk of that difference. Traditional 401(k) or 403(b) contributions are subject to Medicare tax, but HSA contributions, dependent care FSA contributions, and certain other benefits are exempt from Medicare taxes when paid pre-tax. Look at your final paystub of the year - it should break down all your pre-tax deductions and specify which ones weren't subject to Medicare tax. That total should approximately match the difference between your salary and what's in Box 5.

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Wait, I thought 401k contributions were exempt from income tax but still subject to FICA (Social Security and Medicare)? That's why they still show up in Boxes 3 and 5, right? So wouldn't my 401k contributions NOT explain the difference here? Also, if certain pre-tax deductions are exempt from Medicare tax, why would they be exempt from Medicare but not Social Security? Shouldn't Boxes 3 and 5 be equal (except for high-income earners who exceed the SS wage base)?

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You're absolutely right that 401(k) contributions are subject to FICA taxes (both Social Security and Medicare), so those wouldn't explain the difference. That was my mistake. The reason some deductions are exempt from one tax but not another is due to specific provisions in tax law. For example, HSA contributions through payroll are exempt from income tax, Social Security tax, AND Medicare tax. But qualified transportation benefits might be exempt from income tax yet still subject to FICA taxes. Each benefit type has its own tax treatment defined by different sections of the tax code.

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Can taxr.ai also figure out if my employer messed up? I have the opposite problem - my Box 5 seems too HIGH compared to my salary. I'm worried I'm paying too much Medicare tax, but I don't want to approach HR if it's actually correct.

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Just wanted to follow up - I took the advice and tried taxr.ai with my documents. It was super helpful! Turns out my employer actually WAS calculating my Medicare wages incorrectly. They weren't properly excluding my transit benefits which should have been exempt from Box 5. The report explained exactly which section of the tax code applied to each deduction and which boxes they should affect on my W-2. I forwarded the analysis to my payroll department and they're issuing a corrected W-2. They even thanked me because apparently this was affecting other employees too! Definitely worth checking out if you have these kinds of discrepancies.

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Just to add another possible explanation - if you participate in a dependent care FSA (up to $5,000) and have health insurance premiums (could easily be $5,000+ annually for family coverage), that would exactly account for your $10,000 difference. Both of these are typically exempt from Medicare taxes when paid through a qualifying Section 125 cafeteria plan. Check your last paystub of the year - it should have year-to-date totals for all your deductions. Look specifically at which ones are marked as "exempt from Medicare" or something similar.

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Thanks for this explanation! I just checked my last paystub and you're right - I have $5,400 in health insurance premiums and $4,500 in dependent care FSA for the year. Both are marked as "not subject to Medicare" on my paystub. Mystery solved! I never realized these specific deductions would be excluded from Medicare wages while my 401k contributions are still included in Box 5. Makes perfect sense now why there's that $10k difference.

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Is anyone else annoyed that even tax professionals often mix up which deductions are exempt from which taxes? I literally had an HR person tell me ALL pre-tax deductions are excluded from Medicare wages, which is totally wrong! Some quick facts that might help people with similar questions: - 401k/403b contributions: Exempt from income tax (Box 1) but STILL subject to Social Security and Medicare - Health insurance premiums through Section 125: Exempt from income tax AND FICA (both SS and Medicare) - HSA contributions: Exempt from income tax AND FICA - Dependent Care FSA: Exempt from income tax AND FICA - Transit/Parking benefits: Tax treatment can vary

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This is so confusing! So if my W2 Box 5 is about $7,500 less than my annual salary, and I contribute $2,400 to HSA and pay about $5,100 in health premiums pre-tax, that would explain it perfectly?

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Yes, that explains it perfectly! Your $2,400 HSA contribution plus $5,100 in pre-tax health insurance premiums equals $7,500, which matches the difference between your salary and Box 5. Both of those specific deductions are exempt from Medicare tax, so they're subtracted from your salary before calculating what goes in Box 5. Just to double check, look at your last paystub for the year. Your year-to-date totals for HSA and health insurance should add up to that $7,500 difference.

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This is such a helpful thread! I had a similar issue last year where my Box 5 was showing about $6,000 less than my salary. I was convinced payroll made an error until I realized I had completely forgotten about my commuter benefits ($1,500/year) and flexible spending account for medical expenses ($2,500/year) that are both exempt from Medicare tax. What really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet listing all my pre-tax deductions and researching which ones are exempt from Medicare vs just income tax. It's amazing how many different rules apply - I had no idea that parking benefits could be treated differently than health insurance premiums! For anyone still confused, I'd recommend requesting a detailed breakdown from your HR department showing exactly which deductions are excluded from each box on your W-2. Most payroll systems can generate this report, and it makes everything crystal clear.

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This is exactly what I needed to see! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my Box 5 is about $4,200 less than my salary. I have a medical FSA ($2,650) and pay for parking through work ($1,560), so that would account for the difference if parking benefits are indeed exempt from Medicare tax. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm going to create one listing all my pre-tax deductions and their tax treatment. It's frustrating how complex this is, but at least now I know it's likely correct rather than an error. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Ava Kim

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I work in payroll and see these questions all the time. One thing I'd add is that the $10,000 difference Nathan is seeing is actually pretty typical for someone with their salary level who has family health coverage and participates in multiple benefit programs. What many people don't realize is that the Medicare tax exemptions for certain pre-tax deductions were specifically designed to encourage participation in health savings accounts, dependent care assistance, and employer-sponsored health plans. The tax code treats these as "qualified benefits" that deserve special treatment. If you want to verify your employer is calculating everything correctly, compare your final December paystub to your W-2. The year-to-date Medicare wages on your paystub should match Box 5 exactly. If they don't match, THEN you might have a payroll error worth investigating. One last tip - if you switch jobs mid-year, make sure both employers are handling your pre-tax deductions consistently. I've seen cases where someone's total Medicare wages across two W-2s was incorrect because the employers used different interpretations of the same benefit rules.

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This is such valuable insight from someone who actually processes payroll! I never knew about the tip to compare the December paystub Medicare wages to Box 5 - that's a really simple way to verify everything is correct. Your point about job switches is particularly interesting. I changed employers in August this year and now I'm wondering if I should double-check that both W-2s are handling my HSA contributions the same way. Is there a specific way the tax treatment should be consistent between employers, or could they legitimately have different approaches to the same deduction? Also, when you mention "qualified benefits" - is there an official IRS list somewhere of which pre-tax deductions get the Medicare tax exemption? It would be helpful to have a definitive reference rather than trying to piece it together from various forum posts and HR explanations.

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