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Slightly different perspective - you could consider making an S-Corp election effective 1/1/24 even though it's past the deadline. The IRS allows for late S-Corp elections if you have "reasonable cause." Given that you were already operating as if you were an S-Corp (paying yourself W-2 wages), you might have a case for relief under Revenue Procedure 2013-30.
I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My SMLLC had been paying me W-2 wages for three years without S-Corp election. After panicking for weeks, I ended up working with a tax attorney who helped me file for late S-Corp election under Revenue Procedure 2013-30. The key was demonstrating that I had "reasonable cause" - specifically that I was operating in good faith as if I were an S-Corp (regular payroll, proper withholdings, etc.) but simply missed the technical filing requirement. We submitted Form 2553 with a detailed explanation letter showing my payroll records and explaining the misunderstanding. The IRS approved the retroactive election back to my original intended date, which meant I didn't have to amend any returns or deal with the Schedule C conversion. The whole process took about 6 months, but it was way less painful than I expected. Definitely worth exploring before you commit to amending multiple years of returns!
Does anyone know if you need to file for a FICA refund if you're filing your annual tax return anyway? Couldn't you just claim these excess deductions on your 1040NR?
No, that's not how it works. FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) are completely separate from income tax. You cannot claim wrongfully withheld FICA taxes on your 1040NR - you must use Form 843 specifically for this purpose. I made this mistake my first year, thinking it would all get sorted out in my annual return. Ended up having to file the Form 843 separately anyway and delayed my refund by months.
I just went through this exact same situation as an F1 STEM OPT student! One thing I'd add to the great advice already given is to make sure you keep detailed records of everything. I created a spreadsheet tracking each pay period where FICA was incorrectly withheld, along with the specific amounts for Social Security and Medicare taxes. Also, don't let your employer off the hook completely. Even though they're being uncooperative about providing documentation, they are still required by law to correct their records and stop future withholding. You might want to escalate within HR or contact their payroll department directly - sometimes different departments are more helpful. One more tip: when you file Form 843, include a cover letter clearly explaining your situation. I wrote a simple one-page letter stating I was an F1 student on STEM OPT, exempt from FICA taxes, and that my employer had incorrectly withheld these taxes. I attached copies of my I-20, EAD card, and pay stubs showing the withholding. This seemed to help the IRS process my claim more efficiently. Good luck with your refund - $4,200 is definitely worth fighting for!
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation right now - just discovered my employer has been withholding FICA taxes for the past 6 months on my F1 OPT. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant, I'm definitely going to track everything that way. Quick question - when you say "escalate within HR," did you have any success getting a written acknowledgment of their error? My HR is also being difficult and I'm wondering if there's a specific way to approach them that might be more effective. Also, do you remember roughly how long it took for your Form 843 to be processed after you submitted it with the cover letter?
@Aiden Chen I had mixed success with HR escalation. What finally worked was sending a formal written request via email to both my direct HR contact and their manager, referencing the specific IRS regulations Publication (519 that) exempt F1 students from FICA taxes. I also copied my supervisor on the email, which seemed to motivate them to respond more professionally. I didn t'get a formal acknowledgment of error, but they did provide a letter confirming my immigration status and work authorization dates, which was actually more useful for the IRS anyway. The key was being persistent but professional - I sent follow-up emails every few business days until I got what I needed. My Form 843 took about 6.5 months to process, which was actually faster than some others I ve'heard about. I think the detailed cover letter and organized documentation really helped. The IRS sent me a letter about 3 months in asking for additional verification of my student status, which I provided promptly, and then got my refund check about 3.5 months later. One tip: make sure to include your current address on everything since you ll'likely move during the processing period!
One thing that might help with planning is understanding how these benefits interact with each other. You can actually stack several of these tax advantages in the same year - claim the Lifetime Learning Credit, deduct student loan interest, AND contribute to a spousal IRA all on the same return. At your $76,000 income level, you're well within the limits for all of these benefits. The Lifetime Learning Credit phases out between $82,000-$172,000 for joint filers, student loan interest deduction phases out between $155,000-$185,000, and you'd qualify for the full spousal IRA deduction. If your wife's program qualifies her as at least a half-time student, she might also be eligible to defer any existing student loan payments while in school, which could free up cash flow even if you're not getting additional tax benefits from those loans. Also worth noting - if she does any teaching or research assistant work that generates income, that could affect some of these calculations, but it might also make her eligible for her own IRA contributions. Just something to keep in mind as her academic situation evolves. The key is to track everything carefully and consider working with a tax professional for at least the first year to make sure you're maximizing all available benefits while staying compliant.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was looking for! The stacking approach makes so much sense - I hadn't realized we could combine all these benefits in one tax year. One follow-up question on the spousal IRA: since my wife has zero earned income while in school, I assume we'd be looking at a traditional IRA for the tax deduction rather than a Roth, right? And would her future earning potential as a grad student (like if she gets a stipend next year) affect our ability to make spousal contributions? Also really helpful point about tracking everything carefully. We're definitely leaning toward working with a tax pro this first year since there are so many moving pieces we haven't dealt with before.
You're absolutely right about the traditional vs Roth IRA decision! With your current income level and the fact that you'd get an immediate tax deduction, a traditional spousal IRA makes the most sense. You'll get that upfront deduction now when you know your tax situation, versus hoping for tax-free withdrawals decades from now. Regarding future stipends - if your wife gets earned income next year from teaching or research assistantships, it actually opens up more options rather than limiting them. She could potentially make her own IRA contributions based on her earned income, and you might still be able to make spousal contributions if her earned income is less than the contribution limit. One thing to consider: if she does get a stipend next year, it might push your joint income higher, potentially affecting the Lifetime Learning Credit. But you'd still likely qualify for student loan interest deductions and IRA contributions since those phase out at much higher income levels. Working with a tax pro for the first year is definitely smart - they can help you set up systems to track everything properly and identify planning opportunities you might miss on your own. Plus they can help you understand how any changes in your wife's academic status or income might affect your strategy going forward.
I'm in a very similar situation - my husband is in his second year of a PhD program while I work full-time. We've been filing jointly and have found some great benefits that might apply to your situation too. Beyond the education credits others have mentioned, one thing that's been really helpful is understanding how the timing of expenses affects your taxes. We've learned to be strategic about when we pay tuition - paying spring semester costs in December rather than January can help you claim credits in the current tax year, which is especially useful if you expect your income to increase. Also, if your wife ends up doing any graduate research or teaching work later in her program, those stipends are usually taxable income, but they also make her eligible for her own retirement contributions. It's something to keep in mind for future planning. The spousal IRA contribution has been a game-changer for us - being able to contribute $7,000 for my non-working spouse while getting a full tax deduction has significantly reduced our tax burden. At your income level, you should definitely qualify for the full deduction. One last tip: keep meticulous records of everything education-related. We use a dedicated folder for all tuition receipts, 1098-T forms, and any required course materials. The IRS can ask for documentation years later, and having everything organized makes tax prep much smoother each year.
This is really helpful advice, especially about the timing strategy! I'm curious about the record-keeping aspect - do you track expenses differently for required vs optional materials? My spouse's program has a lot of "strongly recommended" resources that aren't technically required, and I want to make sure I'm only claiming what actually qualifies for credits. Also, have you found any good apps or systems for organizing all the education-related receipts throughout the year?
I went through this nightmare last year. Found out that while 1095-B and 1095-C forms are "for information only," the 1095-A is absolutely required if you got marketplace insurance with subsidies. I ended up filing without it because I was impatient for my refund, and the IRS held my refund for nearly 3 months while they sent me letters requesting the missing information. Had to call dozens of times. Total headache. My advice: WAIT for the 1095-A no matter what. The delay in filing will be way shorter than the delay if you file incorrectly without it.
How did you eventually resolve it? Did you have to pay back any of your premium tax credits when you finally got the form?
I eventually got the 1095-A after calling my state marketplace every day for a week. When I finally got through, they emailed me the form immediately. I did end up having to pay back about $650 of my premium tax credits because my income was higher than I'd estimated when I applied for insurance. That was annoying, but the worst part was the delay - had I just waited for the form and filed correctly the first time, I would have gotten most of my refund much sooner and saved myself countless hours of stress and phone calls. The IRS actually processed my return in parts - they sent the portion of my refund not related to the premium tax credit after about 6 weeks, then finalized everything after I submitted the correct Form 8962 with my 1095-A information.
Just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact situation last year. I panicked when I couldn't find my 1095-A form anywhere and the filing deadline was approaching fast. Here's what I learned: Don't file without it, period. The IRS processing systems are set up to catch missing Form 8962 (Premium Tax Credit reconciliation) and will automatically flag your return. This means delays, correspondence, and potential penalties. The key is being persistent with getting your replacement form. I had to call the marketplace multiple times, but once I got through, they were actually very helpful. They can see if your form was mailed to an old address (which happened to me after moving) and can immediately email you a corrected version. One tip that worked for me: Try calling early in the morning (like 8 AM) when the phone lines first open. I had much better luck getting through then versus calling during peak hours. Also, regarding your income being $4,000 higher than estimated - that's exactly why you need the accurate 1095-A numbers. The reconciliation calculation on Form 8962 is very precise, and estimating could result in you owing money to the IRS or missing out on credits you're entitled to. It's frustrating to wait, but trust me, doing it right the first time will save you months of headaches later.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the early morning calling tip - do you happen to know if that works for both the federal marketplace (healthcare.gov) and state marketplaces? I'm in a state that runs its own exchange and wondering if they have similar staffing patterns. Also, when you say the reconciliation calculation is "very precise," can you give an example of how much difference a small error might make? I'm trying to decide if it's worth potentially delaying my filing by a few weeks to get the exact numbers versus making my best educated guess based on my monthly premium statements.
LunarLegend
Has anyone tried adjusting their withholdings to compensate for the marriage tax situation? My husband and I discovered this "penalty" last year and ended up owing $2,700 when we'd both previously gotten refunds filing separately. We're trying to figure out if we should change our W-4s.
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Malik Jackson
ā¢Absolutely! After getting hit with a surprise tax bill our first year married, we updated both our W-4 forms to withhold at the "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" option. We also added some additional withholding (about $50 per paycheck each). Ended up with a small refund instead of owing thousands. The IRS has a withholding calculator on their website that's really helpful for figuring out the right amount to withhold based on both incomes. Most people don't realize you need to recalculate when both spouses work.
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Omar Mahmoud
I went through this exact same shock when my spouse and I got married three years ago! We were both making around $70k each and suddenly went from getting decent refunds to owing money. What really helped us was understanding that the "marriage penalty" isn't actually about the government penalizing marriage - it's more about how the tax brackets are structured. The key insight for us was realizing that while we paid more in taxes the first year, we also had access to benefits we didn't have before. We could max out retirement contributions more strategically (like doing a spousal IRA), our health insurance became cheaper with family coverage, and we qualified for some tax credits we couldn't get individually. Also, don't forget that once you're married, you have the option of married filing separately if that ever works out better for your specific situation, though it rarely does. The real financial benefits of marriage often show up in areas beyond just the annual tax return - things like Social Security benefits, estate planning, and combined insurance coverage.
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Aisha Abdullah
ā¢This is really helpful to hear from someone who's been through it! I'm curious about the spousal IRA you mentioned - how does that work exactly? My partner doesn't currently have a 401k at their job, so we're trying to figure out the best retirement savings strategy once we're married. Did you find that the combined approach actually saved you more money in the long run despite the initial tax hit?
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