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Zoe Walker

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I'm an accountant and just want to clarify something here - you absolutely CANNOT deduct CDL training on your taxes as a W-2 employee anymore. That was eliminated in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. Education credits are your only option, and even then you need to make sure the school qualifies and your income isn't too high.

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Elijah Brown

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This isn't 100% accurate. If OP was switching careers completely (like going from office work to truck driving) rather than just improving skills in the same field, the CDL costs might qualify as deductible under the work-related education exception. It depends on the specific situation.

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Felix Grigori

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@Elijah Brown raises a good point about career changes, but in this case OP mentioned they ve'been driving trucks for 2 years already, so this would be considered maintaining/improving skills in their current field rather than switching careers. The work-related education exception you re'referring to was also eliminated for employees under the TCJA. @Rajiv Kumar - given your situation as a W-2 employee, your best bet is definitely the Lifetime Learning Credit if your school qualifies and your income falls within the limits. The credit phases out between $59,000-$69,000 for single filers 2024 tax (year . )

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Rami Samuels

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@Rajiv Kumar - I went through this exact same situation with my CDL training expenses last year. Since you're a W-2 employee, the Lifetime Learning Credit is really your only option now. The key thing is making sure your CDL school is eligible - they need to have a Federal School Code and be able to receive federal student aid. I'd recommend calling your CDL school directly and asking if they're eligible for federal financial aid programs. If they are, you can claim up to 20% of your qualified education expenses (up to $10,000 in expenses, so max $2,000 credit). Just make sure your adjusted gross income is under the phase-out limits - it starts phasing out at $59,000 for single filers. Also keep all your loan documents and receipts from the school. The IRS may want to see proof that the expenses were for qualified education that maintained or improved your job skills. Good luck!

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Luca Greco

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation - just finished CDL school last year and wasn't sure about the tax implications. Quick question though - when you say "qualified education that maintained or improved job skills," does that apply even if you got your CDL before starting your trucking job? I got mine through a private school before I was hired, so technically it was to GET the job rather than improve existing skills. Would that still qualify for the Lifetime Learning Credit?

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Liam McGuire

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Has anyone actually received their money faster from SBTPG? I keep seeing complaints but wonder if there are success stories too. I've been looking at their BBB page and the complaints are pretty consistent about the delays. But are these just the vocal minority?

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Nia Thompson

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I can share a success story! My refund went through SBTPG last month and it was actually pretty quick. They received it on a Wednesday morning around 10am (I checked their portal obsessively) and I had the money in my Chime account by Thursday at 3pm. So about 29 hours total, which matches what others have said about the 24-48 hour window. I think the key is that it was mid-week with no holidays - I've heard weekends and federal holidays can add extra delays. The waiting is still nerve-wracking when you're expecting that money, but at least in my case they delivered within their stated timeframe.

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Thanks for sharing a positive experience! It's reassuring to hear that SBTPG can actually stick to their promised timeframe. I'm in a similar situation right now - my refund hit SBTPG yesterday morning and I'm anxiously checking both their portal and my Chime account every few hours. Your timeline gives me hope that I should see something by tomorrow afternoon. Did you get any notification from SBTPG when they released the funds, or did the money just show up in Chime without warning?

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Melissa Lin

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Just a heads-up for anyone applying for a trust EIN - make sure you're clear about what type of trust you have before starting the application. I messed up and had to call to get it fixed. Estate trusts, living trusts, and testamentary trusts are all handled differently. Double check your paperwork first!!

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Can you elaborate on what the differences are in the application process? I have a revocable living trust if that matters.

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Fiona Sand

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For revocable living trusts, you'll select "Trust" as the entity type and then specify it's a "Grantor Trust" since the grantor (you) retains control. The key difference is that revocable trusts are typically disregarded entities for tax purposes while the grantor is alive, so you might not even need a separate EIN unless you're planning to open bank accounts or have specific income-generating assets in the trust. Some banks require it even for revocable trusts though. Make sure you have the trust agreement date and the grantor's SSN ready - that's what they'll ask for specifically.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! I ended up going with the online application route after reading through all your advice. @Sophia Gabriel your direct link was exactly what I needed - I had been getting lost in the general IRS website maze. I made sure to gather all my trust documents beforehand and set aside a solid 30 minutes without interruptions. The 15-minute timeout is real, so definitely don't start unless you're ready to finish! For anyone else doing this, the key info you'll need ready is: trust name, date the trust was established, trustee's full name and SSN, and the trust's address. Got my EIN instantly once I submitted the application. The whole process took about 10 minutes once I actually found the right page. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences - it made this so much less stressful!

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Keisha Taylor

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That's awesome that you got it sorted out! I'm actually in a similar situation right now - just started the process of setting up a trust for my elderly parents and was dreading dealing with the IRS paperwork. Your experience gives me hope that it's not as complicated as I was making it out to be in my head. Quick question - when you say you needed the "trust's address," did you use your home address or did you need to set up a separate address for the trust? I'm still figuring out all these details and want to make sure I have everything right before I start the application.

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Diez Ellis

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I'm also in this same boat and finding this thread incredibly helpful! Filed 3/2, completed ID verification on 3/25, and just got the 570 code yesterday with an as-of date of 5/15. No 971 notice here either. Reading through everyone's experiences, it's clear this post-verification 570 pattern is happening to a lot of people this tax season. The consistency of the timelines (verification completion → 2-3 week gap → 570 without 971) really does suggest this is part of their automated review process rather than individual return problems. @Yuki Tanaka - I really appreciate you laying out your timeline so clearly. It helps put my own situation in perspective. The fact that you've already got congressional support lined up is smart planning, and your May 6th date is coming up soon. Fingers crossed for good news! What's giving me the most hope is how many people have shared that this resolved automatically within their as-of date timeframe. The explanation about automated income matching makes so much sense - they're probably just verifying our reported income against W-2s and 1099s in their system. One thing I'm wondering - for those who have been through this before, do you typically see any movement in your transcript in the days leading up to your as-of date, or does it usually update all at once? Trying to figure out if I should be checking daily or just wait until my 5/15 date. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this community support makes the waiting so much more manageable!

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@Diez Ellis Welcome to this very frustrating but surprisingly common experience! Your timeline matches so many of ours - it s'almost reassuring how consistent the pattern is across different people. Regarding checking your transcript, from what I ve'seen others mention, updates can happen at any time but they typically process overnight. Some people see changes a few days before their as-of date, others right on the date. I d'probably check every few days rather than daily to avoid driving yourself crazy, but honestly the anticipation makes it hard not to check constantly! What I find most encouraging about all these similar cases is that the 3-week timeframe from 570 appearance to as-of date seems to be pretty standard. Your 5/15 date gives you a bit more breathing room than some of us with earlier dates. The automated income verification explanation really has helped calm my nerves. It makes sense that after completing ID verification, they d'move returns into a queue to cross-check reported income against what employers submitted. Much less scary than thinking there are major errors in our returns! Hopefully we ll'all be sharing success stories in a couple weeks instead of stress stories! This thread has honestly been more helpful than any official IRS guidance I ve'found.

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Amina Bah

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I'm going through almost the exact same situation! Filed 2/22, completed ID verification on 3/19, and got my 570 code on 4/16 with an as-of date of 5/3. Like everyone else here, no 971 notice. This thread has been incredibly reassuring - the consistency of all our timelines really does suggest this is just part of their automated review process this year. The 2-3 week gap between verification completion and the 570 appearing seems to be standard, and the explanation about income verification makes so much more sense than panicking about major return errors. @Yuki Tanaka - your proactive approach with congressional contacts was smart, especially since your May 6th date is so close. The fact that you already have that support in place gives you good backup options if needed. What's giving me hope is how many success stories people have shared about these resolving automatically within the as-of date timeframe. The pattern seems to be: panic when you see the 570, stress for 2-3 weeks, then relief when it resolves on schedule. I'm trying to resist the urge to call before my 5/3 date based on the advice here about avoiding multiple calls creating conflicting notes. Has anyone else found it helpful to set up transcript monitoring through the IRS app, or is checking manually better for catching updates quickly? Really grateful for this community - dealing with IRS issues alone is so much more stressful than having others who understand exactly what you're going through!

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@Amina Bah I m'so glad you found this thread helpful too! It s'amazing how many of us are going through nearly identical situations - it really does confirm that this is just part of their standard process rather than individual problems with our returns. Your 5/3 as-of date is actually the earliest I ve'seen mentioned here, so you might be one of the first to get resolution! That could be really encouraging for the rest of us waiting on our dates. The advice about avoiding calls before the as-of date makes a lot of sense - seems like the best approach is to let their automated system do its thing. I ve'been manually checking my transcript rather than using the app, mainly because I ve'heard the app can sometimes lag behind the actual transcript updates. Plus, checking manually gives me something to do "while" waiting, even though I know nothing will change until closer to the date! What s'been most helpful for me is reading all these explanations about automated income verification. It transforms this from what "did I do wrong? anxiety" to they "re'just checking boxes systematically which" feels so much more manageable. Fingers crossed your 5/3 date brings good news that we can all celebrate! Please keep us updated - your success story would give the rest of us so much hope as our dates approach.

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Just to add to all the great information here - I went through a very similar situation with my daughter last year. One thing I learned that might be helpful: make sure to keep detailed records of the exact dates involved, especially if the stock price was volatile around the gift transfer date. Even though you mentioned the price didn't change between gift and sale, the IRS will want to see documentation of the fair market value on the actual gift date for their records. I used the closing price on the date of transfer and kept a screenshot of the stock quote from that day. Also, since your son immediately put the proceeds into CDs, that's actually a smart move tax-wise. The capital gains tax will be due on his return for this year, but the CD interest going forward will be taxed as ordinary income in future years when the CDs mature. Just something to keep in mind for his future tax planning. The good news is that since you stayed under the annual gift tax exclusion, this is a pretty straightforward transaction from a documentation standpoint. Your son just needs your original purchase price and date, plus proof of the gift transfer.

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This is really solid advice about keeping detailed records of the gift date! I'm curious though - what happens if there's a weekend or holiday involved? Like if the gift transfer technically happened on a Saturday but the stock market was closed, do you use Friday's closing price or Monday's opening price to establish the fair market value? I'm dealing with a similar situation where my parents transferred some mutual fund shares to me over a holiday weekend, and I want to make sure I'm documenting the correct valuation date for tax purposes.

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Great question about weekend/holiday timing! For gift tax purposes, you typically use the fair market value on the actual date of the gift transfer, even if it falls on a non-trading day. If the markets were closed on the transfer date, the IRS generally accepts using the average of the closing prices from the last trading day before and the first trading day after the gift date. For your mutual fund situation, since mutual funds price once daily after market close, you'd want to use the Net Asset Value (NAV) from the actual transfer date if available, or the averaging method I mentioned if the transfer happened over a weekend. Most mutual fund companies can provide you with the exact NAV for any given date, including non-trading days where they might calculate values for internal purposes. Keep documentation of whichever method you use and the source of your pricing information - that's the key thing the IRS looks for if there are ever questions. @2986b889914b's advice about screenshots is spot on for stocks, and for mutual funds you might want to print out the NAV history from the fund company's website.

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This is a great thread with lots of helpful information! I just wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant for future planning: if you're thinking about gifting more appreciated assets to family members, you might want to consider the timing strategically. Since your son immediately sold the stock and invested in CDs, it sounds like he needed liquidity rather than wanting to hold onto the specific stock. In cases like this, sometimes it can be more tax-efficient to sell the appreciated stock yourself (especially if you're in a lower tax bracket than the recipient), pay the capital gains tax, and then gift the cash proceeds instead. This way, you control the timing of when the capital gains are realized and can potentially take advantage of lower tax rates or offset gains with any losses you might have. Of course, this depends on your respective tax situations and bracket differences. The approach you took is perfectly fine and legitimate - just something to consider for future gifts if tax optimization is a priority. The annual gift tax exclusion applies either way, so you have flexibility in how you structure these transfers.

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