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Anyone know if state taxes are automatically withheld from 401k distributions too? My mom in Florida doesn't worry about it but my aunt in California is retiring and wondering about state withholding on her 401k.
It depends on the state and the plan administrator. Some automatically withhold state taxes, others don't. Florida has no state income tax, so your mom is fine there. But California definitely taxes retirement distributions! Your aunt should specifically ask her 401k administrator about state tax withholding options. Many plans have a separate form for state withholding or it might be included on the same form as federal. If they don't withhold state taxes, she'll need to make quarterly estimated payments to California to avoid penalties.
Thanks for the info! I'll let her know she needs to check about California state withholding specifically. Sounds like she might need to make those quarterly payments you mentioned.
One thing that might help your mom is to understand that the W-4R form doesn't get filed anywhere - it's just her instructions to the 401k company about how much tax to withhold. Think of it like setting up automatic bill pay, but for taxes. Since she's new to retirement, I'd suggest she be conservative and have them withhold a bit more than the default 10%, especially if she has other income sources. It's better to get a refund than owe money at tax time. She can always adjust the withholding later once she gets a feel for her total tax situation. Also, don't forget that 401k withdrawals might affect how much of her Social Security benefits are taxable, so the tax picture can be more complex than it first appears. The IRS has some good publications on retirement income taxation that explain all this stuff in detail.
Has anybody used the "Get Transcript" feature on IRS.gov? I know OP mentioned they couldn't verify online, but for anyone else reading - it worked great for me. Just needed to answer some identity verification questions about my credit history, and I was able to download all my transcripts right away.
The verification is the problem for many people. It often requires a credit card, loan account, or mobile phone that matches exactly what's in their system. I couldn't get in because my phone is on my partner's family plan, not in my name. Super frustrating!
I went through this exact same nightmare last year! The IRS online verification system is so finicky - it rejected me three times before I finally got through. Here's what worked for me: Try accessing your H&R Block online account first. Even if you don't remember your login, you can use the "forgot password" option with your email or SSN. They keep your returns accessible for several years, and you can view/download your 2023 return which will have your AGI right on line 11. If that doesn't work, you can also try Form 4506-T to request a tax return transcript by mail, but that takes 5-10 business days which might not help if you're trying to file soon. As a last resort, TurboTax does allow you to enter $0 for prior year AGI if you absolutely can't access it, though this might trigger additional verification from the IRS later. But at least you can get your return filed and get your refund process started. The moving situation makes everything so much harder - been there! Next year definitely scan everything to cloud storage before packing those boxes.
I've worked in multiple states for years and here's my advice - document EVERYTHING. Keep all your pay stubs, take screenshots of your electronic ones, and make sure you understand which state taxes you're paying. Most mistakes with interstate work happen because people don't realize which state is getting their withholding. With reciprocity agreements you typically pay taxes to your home state, not where you work, but some employers mess this up.
The stress you're feeling is completely normal - tax situations involving multiple states can be really confusing! From what you've described, it sounds like you're being very thorough in checking your work, which is exactly the right approach. One thing that might help ease your anxiety: the IRS processes over 150 million tax returns each year, and honest mistakes are incredibly common. The system is designed to handle errors, not punish people for them. Most mistakes result in simple notices asking for clarification or adjustment, not audits or legal trouble. For your reciprocity situation specifically, double-check that Box 17 (state tax withheld) on your W-2 matches what you expect based on your home state. If there's withholding from both states, you might need to file a nonresident return in the work state to get a refund, while reporting all income on your home state return. The key is responding promptly to any IRS correspondence and keeping good records of your income and withholding. Your careful attention to detail now will serve you well if any questions come up later. You've got this!
I'm completely new to this authentication nightmare and just stumbled across this thread while desperately searching for solutions! I've been trapped in the exact same ID.me/IRS verification loop for the past week - ID.me shows I'm fully verified on their end, but every time I try to access my IRS account, it kicks me right back to the verification screen. I was honestly starting to think I'd somehow broken my account or missed something obvious. Reading through everyone's experiences has been both incredibly validating and super helpful. The technical explanations about OAuth handshakes and orphaned authentication tokens finally make this whole mess understandable - no wonder regular customer service keeps saying they can't see any issues when they literally don't have access to the backend systems causing the problem! Like so many others here, I made the mistake of calling the general IRS line and got caught in that maddening ping-pong game where each side insists it's the other's responsibility. Three different representatives told me three different things, and none of them could actually help. Based on all the detailed success stories in this thread, I'm planning to skip any more attempts with regular customer service and go straight to the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778 tomorrow morning. I'll use the exact technical terminology that multiple people have confirmed works: "authentication token synchronization error" and request them to "reset the OAuth handshake." This thread has honestly become the most comprehensive resource I've found for this issue - way more helpful than anything on the official IRS website! Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions. It's transformed what felt like an impossible situation into a clear action plan. I'll definitely update once I try the Taxpayer Advocate approach. Fingers crossed I can finally escape this authentication purgatory! ๐ค
I'm dealing with this exact same authentication loop nightmare right now and this thread has been an absolute lifesaver! Like so many others here, I've been stuck for over a week with ID.me showing "verified" while the IRS keeps asking me to verify again and again. The finger-pointing between the two systems has been incredibly frustrating - spent hours getting bounced around with each side saying it's the other's problem. The technical explanations about OAuth handshakes and orphaned authentication tokens finally make this whole mess make sense. It's clearly a backend integration issue that regular customer service simply cannot access or fix, which explains all the "we can't see any issues on our end" responses. I'm definitely going to follow the proven approach that so many people have confirmed works: calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778 and using the specific terminology "authentication token synchronization error" and requesting them to "reset the OAuth handshake." Having these exact phrases feels like finally having the right key to unlock actual technical support instead of just getting transferred endlessly. This thread should honestly be featured as the official troubleshooting guide for this widespread but poorly documented issue. Thank you to everyone who shared their solutions and experiences - you've created an invaluable community resource that's far more helpful than anything on the actual IRS website! I'll report back once I try the Taxpayer Advocate approach.
Destiny Bryant
Ever wonder why the IRS can take our money instantly but can't give us a working website? I had this error for two weeks straight. Called the IRS and sat on hold for 97 minutes only to be told it was "just a glitch"? Finally checked my bank account randomly and the refund had been deposited three days earlier without WMR ever updating. The whole system is broken beyond belief.
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Miguel Ortiz
I've been dealing with error 428 for about a week now and it's incredibly frustrating. What's helped me is keeping a log of when I try to access WMR - I noticed the error happens more during business hours (9am-5pm EST) when traffic is heaviest. I've had better luck checking early morning around 6am or late evening after 9pm. Also, if you filed any amendments or have complex returns (multiple W-2s, business income, etc.), the system seems more prone to these errors. The transcript suggestion from Hattie is solid - that's actually how I found out my return was processing normally despite the WMR errors. Don't panic, but do keep trying at different times of day.
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