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Anita George

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This thread has been incredibly helpful - I received my CP59 notice two days ago and was absolutely panicking! My return was accepted on February 26th, so I'm right in line with everyone else's timeline here. What's really frustrating is that the notice makes it sound so urgent and scary, like you're in immediate trouble with the IRS. But from reading everyone's experiences, it seems like this is just a glitch in their system where automated notices go out before the processing departments have fully caught up. I checked my notice and confirmed it's actually for tax year 2022, not 2023 like I initially thought. I did file my 2022 return, but apparently it got stuck somewhere in their system. My transcript currently shows the non-filing indicator but no due date yet. Based on what I'm seeing here, I'm going to resist calling and just wait for my transcript to update over the next few weeks. It sounds like most people who called just got told to wait anyway, so I'd rather save myself the 3+ hour hold time! Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - it's amazing how much better this feels when you realize you're not alone and it's not actually an emergency.

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@Anita George I m'so glad you figured out it was for 2022! That s'exactly what happened to me last year - I was freaking out thinking it was about my current year filing when it was actually about the previous year. It s'really misleading how they send these notices right in the middle of filing season. I think the IRS needs to seriously revamp how they word these letters because they make it sound like you re'about to get dragged into tax court when really it s'just a processing delay. You re'absolutely making the right call by waiting it out - from what I ve'seen in this thread, calling just leads to hours of frustration for the same wait "and monitor your transcript advice." Keep us posted on how long it takes for your transcript to update!

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This thread is such a relief to find! I just received my CP59 notice today and was having a full-blown panic attack thinking I'd somehow messed up my taxes completely. My return was accepted on March 3rd, so I'm right in the middle of everyone else's timeline here. After reading through all these experiences, it's clear that the IRS notice system is basically running on a completely different schedule than their actual processing system. It's like having your bank send you an overdraft notice while your deposit is still being processed - technically accurate from one system's perspective but completely wrong from reality. What I find most frustrating is how the CP59 letter is worded. It makes it sound like you're in immediate danger of penalties and collection action, when really it's just an automated notice that doesn't account for returns currently in processing. They really need to update that language to be less panic-inducing! I'm going to follow everyone's advice here and just monitor my transcript over the next few weeks rather than spending my day on hold with the IRS. From what I'm seeing, most people got the same "wait and see" response anyway, so I'd rather save my sanity and let their systems catch up naturally. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories - knowing this is a common processing quirk rather than a personal disaster makes all the difference!

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Ethan Brown

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@Gabriel Freeman You ve'perfectly captured how misleading these CP59 letters are! I just got mine yesterday and had the exact same panic reaction - the wording makes it sound like the IRS is about to seize your assets when really it s'just their systems being out of sync. My return was accepted March 6th, so I m'apparently joining this fun little club of people caught in the same processing limbo. It s'honestly ridiculous that they send out such scary-sounding notices without checking if the return is already in their system somewhere. Reading through everyone s'experiences here has been way more helpful than anything on the actual IRS website. I m'definitely going to wait it out like everyone suggests rather than torture myself on hold for hours just to hear please "wait 2-4 more weeks from" an agent!

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Dylan Cooper

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Don't panic - you're definitely not alone in making this mistake! I went through something very similar when I accidentally put "Kristina" instead of "Christina" on my return a couple years ago. I was absolutely convinced it would mess up my refund, but everything worked out perfectly fine. The most important thing is that your Social Security Number is correct, which it sounds like it is. The IRS primarily uses your SSN to match and process returns, not the name spelling. That missing "e" in "Alexandr" vs "Alexander" shouldn't delay your $2,850 refund at all. Here's what I'd recommend: Call the IRS taxpayer line at 1-800-829-1040 when you get a chance. Yes, the hold times can be brutal during tax season, but it's worth it for the peace of mind. The agent can confirm that your refund is processing normally and add a note to your account with the correct spelling for future years. The fact that your return was already accepted is actually a really good sign! If there was a major matching issue between your information and their records, the system would have likely flagged it during initial processing rather than accepting it. You could also file Form 8822 to officially correct the spelling, but for such a minor one-letter difference, the phone call approach worked great for me. Try not to stress too much - these types of spelling errors are incredibly common during tax season, and the IRS systems are designed to handle them. You're going to be just fine!

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Lydia Bailey

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This is such a helpful and reassuring response! Your "Kristina" vs "Christina" example really resonates with my situation - it's amazing how these simple one-letter errors can cause so much anxiety when it comes to taxes, but hearing from people who've been through virtually identical situations and had everything work out perfectly really helps put things in perspective. I'm definitely going to call the IRS line this week following your suggestion. Even though multiple people have confirmed that the refund should process normally with the correct SSN, getting that direct confirmation from an agent and having them add the correction note seems like it would eliminate all this worry I've been carrying around since I noticed the mistake. Your point about the return already being accepted as a positive sign keeps coming up in these responses, and it's such a logical way to think about it that I hadn't considered before. If there was a serious matching problem, their system probably would have caught it right away rather than processing everything normally. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience and offer such practical advice - it's incredibly comforting to know that these spelling errors are so common and that the IRS systems are designed to handle them routinely!

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I can definitely relate to that panic feeling! I made a very similar error last year when I accidentally put "Micheal" instead of "Michael" on my return and was absolutely convinced it would create major problems with my refund. The good news is that your $2,850 refund should process just fine! As everyone has mentioned, the IRS primarily uses your Social Security Number to identify and match returns, not the exact name spelling. Since your SSN is correct, that missing "e" in "Alexandr" vs "Alexander" shouldn't cause any delays or issues. I ended up calling the IRS at 1-800-829-1040 about a week after I noticed my mistake. The hold time was definitely frustrating (about 50 minutes), but the agent was really understanding and explained that these types of spelling errors are extremely common during tax season. She confirmed my refund was processing normally and added a note to my account with the correct spelling for future filings. The fact that your return has already been accepted by the IRS is actually a very positive sign - if there was a serious mismatch between your name and SSN in their system, it likely would have been flagged during the initial processing rather than being accepted. You could also file Form 8822 to officially correct the spelling, but honestly for such a minor one-letter difference, the phone call approach worked perfectly for me. Don't lose sleep over this - you're definitely not the first person to make this exact mistake, and their systems are designed to handle these common human errors!

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This has been such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I paid a lawyer $325 for a consultation about employment law issues last year. I had completely missed that attorney payments have different reporting rules than other service providers. What's really concerning me now is that I also paid a legal document preparation service $200 for help with some business filings. They weren't licensed attorneys, just a company that helps with paperwork. Based on the discussion here about paralegals vs attorneys, I'm wondering if this payment would fall under the special attorney reporting rules or the regular $600 threshold? The document prep service did legal research and prepared documents, but they weren't providing actual legal advice or representation. Has anyone dealt with similar services and know how they should be classified for 1099 purposes? I want to make sure I handle both payments correctly when I file the late 1099s. Thanks again to everyone sharing their knowledge - it's clear there are a lot of nuances to these reporting requirements that aren't widely understood!

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StarSurfer

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Great question about document preparation services! Based on my understanding, the key distinction is whether the service is providing actual legal services versus administrative document preparation. For your legal document prep service that charged $200, since they weren't licensed attorneys and weren't providing legal advice or representation (just document preparation), this would likely fall under the regular $600 threshold rule rather than the special attorney reporting requirements. So you probably wouldn't need to issue a 1099-NEC for that $200 payment. However, for your $325 attorney consultation, you'd definitely need to issue a 1099-NEC regardless of the amount since that was payment to a licensed attorney for legal services. The IRS looks at the nature of the service and who's providing it - licensed attorneys get the special treatment with no minimum threshold, while document prep services that aren't practicing law would follow normal contractor rules. When in doubt though, it might be worth confirming with a tax professional since the line can sometimes be blurry depending on exactly what services were provided. Better to be safe and get professional guidance on the document prep service if you're unsure!

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This discussion has been incredibly valuable for understanding these special attorney reporting rules! As someone who runs a small consulting business, I had absolutely no idea that attorney payments were treated differently from other service providers for 1099 reporting. I'm now realizing I need to review all my payments from last year to make sure I didn't miss any attorney 1099-NEC filings. I think I paid a business attorney about $400 for reviewing some client contracts, and I definitely didn't issue a 1099-NEC because I assumed the $600 threshold applied. What strikes me most about this thread is how many of us made the same mistake - it really highlights how poorly communicated these special rules are. The IRS should make these exceptions more prominent in their guidance, especially for small business owners who are trying to stay compliant but don't have full-time tax professionals. I'm going to start requiring W-9 forms from all vendors before making any payments going forward. It's clear that getting organized upfront is way easier than scrambling to fix things after the fact. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community knowledge-sharing is invaluable for navigating these complex tax requirements!

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You're absolutely right about how poorly communicated these special rules are! I just went through the same realization after reading this thread. It's frustrating that the IRS doesn't make these exceptions more prominent in their standard guidance materials. What's helped me going forward is creating a simple checklist that includes attorney payments as a special category that always requires 1099-NEC reporting regardless of amount. I also set up a reminder to collect W-9s before making any payments - it's saved me so much stress this tax season. For your $400 business attorney payment, definitely get that 1099-NEC filed ASAP. Most attorneys are very responsive to W-9 requests since they deal with this all the time. The peace of mind from getting compliant is worth way more than any small penalty for filing late. This thread has been such a great resource for all of us learning these nuances the hard way!

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Niko Ramsey

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Just a quick reminder that Form 4137 is also used for allocated tips (Box 8 on W-2), not just unreported cash tips. If your employer has allocated tips to you, H&R Block might be trying to generate this form automatically, which could be causing the error if you're entering conflicting information elsewhere.

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Thank you all SO MUCH for the helpful responses! I finally figured it out - I was indeed accidentally reporting the same tips twice in different sections. I deleted the duplicate entries, made sure I was only reporting the additional cash tips not included on my W-2 in the Form 4137 section, and the error went away! I was able to submit my return successfully. For anyone else having this issue, definitely check for duplicate entries and make sure you're only reporting the ADDITIONAL unreported tips, not your total tips for the year. Those W-2 tips are already handled!

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Glad to hear you got it sorted out! This is actually one of the most common tax software errors I see posted about during filing season. The duplicate entry issue catches so many people - the software interfaces can be confusing about where exactly to input different types of tip income. For future reference, keep good records of your daily cash tips throughout the year. Even a simple notebook or phone app where you jot down your cash tips each shift can save you a lot of headaches come tax time. The IRS expects tip earners to report tips to their employer monthly if they exceed $20, but having your own records makes filing much smoother regardless. Also, don't stress too much about the Form 4137 - it's actually a pretty straightforward form once you understand it's just calculating the Social Security and Medicare taxes on your unreported tips. The software handles all the math for you once you enter the correct amounts in the right places.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to the service industry and just started my first job as a server last month. I had no idea about the monthly reporting requirement or keeping daily records. Do you recommend any specific apps for tracking tips, or is a simple notes app sufficient? Also, when you say "report tips to employer monthly," is there a specific form I need to fill out or do I just tell my manager?

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Hazel Garcia

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This discussion has been incredibly helpful for understanding the different approaches to handling estimated taxes with variable income! I'm in a similar situation with my small business where revenue fluctuates significantly throughout the year, making traditional quarterly estimates really challenging. The repeated recommendations for taxr.ai are compelling - having a tool that can handle both the complex annualized income calculations and adjust for actual income as it comes in sounds like exactly what I need. I've been struggling with the manual worksheets from Pub 505 and never feel confident that I'm applying all the rules correctly. I'm also really appreciating the emphasis on record keeping throughout this thread. I've been pretty inconsistent about documenting my calculation methods, which always creates stress during tax season when I can't remember my reasoning from earlier in the year. One question I have for the community: for those using these online calculators, how do they handle situations where you have both regular business income and one-time events like equipment sales or large contract bonuses? My concern is whether the annualized method properly accounts for income that shouldn't be projected forward for the rest of the year. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - you've convinced me it's time to move beyond my current "hope for the best" approach to estimated payments!

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Jenna Sloan

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Welcome to the discussion Hazel! Your question about one-time events is really important - that's actually one of the key advantages of the annualized income method over simple quarterly estimates. The method is specifically designed to handle exactly these situations where you have irregular or non-recurring income. From my understanding of how these tools work (and the IRS worksheets they're based on), they calculate your required payment based on your actual income through each period rather than projecting everything forward. So if you sell equipment in Q2, it would factor that into your Q2 payment calculation but wouldn't assume you'll sell the same amount of equipment every quarter for the rest of the year. This is actually where the annualized method really shines compared to the standard approach - it prevents you from having to make huge estimated payments based on one-time windfalls that won't repeat. The calculations look at your actual annualized income through each payment period, which naturally accounts for the irregular timing of different income sources. That said, you'd want to verify this with whichever tool you choose, since the specifics can get complex depending on the type of income and timing. But conceptually, handling these exact scenarios is what the annualized method was designed for! Your "hope for the best" approach resonates with so many of us here - you're definitely not alone in feeling uncertain about estimated payment calculations!

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This thread has been incredibly valuable! I'm a tax professional and wanted to add a few technical points that might help everyone making these calculations. First, regarding the annualized income installment method - it's important to understand that you can actually use different methods for different quarters within the same tax year. So if your income pattern changes mid-year, you're not locked into one approach for the entire year. Second, for those considering the online tools mentioned here, make sure whatever you choose can handle the "prior year safe harbor" rule. If your AGI was under $150,000 last year, you only need to pay 100% of last year's tax liability to avoid penalties (110% if over $150,000). Sometimes this is actually easier than the annualized method, especially early in the year when your income pattern isn't clear yet. Finally, regarding state calculations - be aware that not all states follow the federal annualized income rules. Some have their own methods or don't allow the annualized approach at all. Make sure any tool you use accounts for your specific state's requirements. The record keeping advice throughout this thread is spot on - documentation is crucial if you ever need to defend your calculations to the IRS or state tax authority!

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Sasha Ivanov

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Thank you so much for adding the professional perspective, Reginald! This is exactly the kind of technical insight that helps clarify when and how to use these different approaches. Your point about being able to switch methods between quarters is fascinating - I had no idea you could do that within the same tax year. That flexibility could be really valuable for someone like me whose income patterns can shift unexpectedly due to client project timing. The safe harbor rule explanation is also super helpful. I've heard it mentioned before but never fully understood the thresholds. It sounds like for many people, especially in the early quarters when income is uncertain, the safe harbor approach might actually be simpler than trying to calculate annualized payments right away. Your warning about state-specific rules is particularly important. I'm in Texas so I don't have state income tax to worry about, but for those in states like California or New York, it sounds like they really need to verify that any tool they choose properly handles their state's specific requirements rather than just assuming it follows federal rules. This kind of professional insight combined with all the real-world experiences shared throughout this thread makes me feel much more confident about finally tackling this properly instead of just winging it each quarter!

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