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Lucas Lindsey

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Just a heads up - make sure your wife's W-2 correctly reports the retirement contributions. Box 12 with code D shows the 401k contributions, and this needs to match what actually stayed in the plan (not including the excess that was returned). I've seen W-2s where the amount includes the excess, which can cause confusion when you're also reporting the return of excess. Double-check this before filing!

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Sophie Duck

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This is so important! My company's payroll actually got this wrong last year and I ended up with a major headache trying to prove to the IRS that I wasn't double-dipping on tax benefits.

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Evelyn Kelly

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I went through this exact same situation last year and it was such a nightmare! The key thing that saved me was being really persistent with the plan administrator about getting that breakdown between the excess contribution and earnings. One tip that might help - when you're entering this into H&R Block, make sure you're in the "Other Income" section, not trying to add it as a regular 1099-R. There's usually a specific place for "Retirement Plan Distributions Not Reported on 1099-R" or something similar. Also, don't forget that if your wife is under 59Β½, the earnings portion will be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty on top of regular income tax. That caught me off guard when I first did this. The excess contribution itself won't be penalized since it was never supposed to be in there in the first place. The whole process is frustrating but you're definitely on the right track by trying to document everything properly!

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Amaya Watson

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Thanks for mentioning the "Other Income" section - that's exactly where I was getting confused! I kept trying to force it into the regular 1099-R area and it wasn't making sense. One question about the 10% penalty - does that apply to the entire earnings amount, or are there any exceptions? My wife is 35, so we're definitely under the 59Β½ threshold. I'm hoping there might be some kind of exception since this was technically the plan administrator's error for not catching the excess contribution during the year. Also, did you have any issues with the IRS questioning why you didn't have an actual 1099-R for this distribution? I'm worried about red flags since we're essentially self-reporting this income.

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Hey Lucas! I can totally relate to that anxious feeling when you're waiting on a refund for home repairs - been there myself multiple times as a homeowner! Your cycle code 20250705 is actually really good news. Here's the breakdown: - 2025 = IRS processing fiscal year (October 2024-September 2025) - 07 = 7th cycle week of processing - 05 = Thursday (IRS uses 01=Monday through 05=Friday) This means your return was processed on Thursday of the 7th cycle week, which is perfectly normal timing for filing electronically two weeks ago. The most important thing to know is that having a cycle code appear means your return has successfully moved from the initial queue into active processing - that's honestly the biggest milestone! Most taxpayers with standard situations like yours (homeowner with mortgage interest deductions) typically see their refunds arrive within 5-10 business days after the cycle code date appears on their transcript. I'd recommend checking "Where's My Refund" daily and keeping an eye on your bank account. Based on your timeline, you should definitely have your refund in time for those home repairs you're planning. The waiting is definitely nerve-wracking, but you're essentially in the final stretch now! Just make sure there aren't any other hold codes (like 570 or 971) on your transcript that might indicate additional review needed.

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Amina Toure

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This is exactly the reassurance I needed! I'm also a first-time homeowner and filed my return about two weeks ago electronically. When I saw the cycle code 20250705 appear on my transcript yesterday, I honestly had no idea if it was good news or bad news. Your explanation about it meaning I've moved past the queue stage into active processing is so helpful - I didn't realize that was such an important milestone! I've been checking "Where's My Refund" obsessively but haven't seen any other codes on my transcript, so hopefully that's a good sign. It's really comforting to know that other homeowners have gone through this same anxious waiting period and that 5-10 business days is the typical timeframe once you hit this stage. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly and for the tip about watching for hold codes!

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Dmitry Volkov

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I understand that waiting anxiety completely! As someone who's navigated several tax seasons, I can confirm that your cycle code 20250705 is actually excellent news. The breakdown is: - 2025 = Processing fiscal year (Oct 2024-Sept 2025) - 07 = 7th cycle week - 05 = Thursday Your return was processed on Thursday of the 7th cycle week, which aligns perfectly with your electronic filing timeline from two weeks ago. Here's what's really encouraging: having a cycle code appear means you've successfully moved past the initial review queue into active processing. That's honestly the biggest hurdle! For homeowners with mortgage interest deductions like yourself, refunds typically arrive within 7-10 business days after the cycle code date appears, assuming no additional review codes show up. I'd suggest checking your account daily and monitoring "Where's My Refund." Also, take a quick look at your transcript to make sure there aren't any 570 or 971 codes that might indicate additional review needed. Based on your timing, you should definitely have your refund well before you need to schedule those home repairs. The hardest part of waiting is behind you now!

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Yara Sayegh

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I've been through this exact same situation! The July 17th date you see next to the 846 code is your official direct deposit date. Most people get their refund on that exact date, though some banks process it a day or two early. Since your bank processes deposits quickly, you'll most likely see it hit your account on the 17th. I'd recommend checking your account starting the morning of the 16th just in case it comes early. The fact that you can see the 846 code with the amount means everything is approved and you're just waiting for the actual transfer now. You're so close!

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Sophia Miller

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This is super helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation - filed in early April and just saw my 846 code appear yesterday with a date of July 19th. It's such a relief to finally see some movement after months of the "still processing" message. Thanks for explaining how the timing usually works with banks. I'll definitely start checking my account a day early just in case!

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Great news that you finally got your 846 code! That July 17th date is definitely your direct deposit date. I went through the same thing last year - filed in March and didn't see movement until August, but once I got that 846 code the money was in my account exactly on the date shown. Your bank's quick processing should work in your favor here. Just keep in mind that while most people get it on the scheduled date or a day early, occasionally there can be small delays on the bank's end, but nothing major. You've made it through the hardest part which was waiting for approval - now it's just a matter of days!

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Ryan Vasquez

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That's so reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same timeline! Filing in March and waiting until August sounds brutal, but it gives me hope that once you see that 846 code everything falls into place quickly. I've been checking my bank account obsessively for weeks now, so knowing it'll likely hit right on the 17th (or maybe even the 16th) is such a relief. Thanks for sharing your experience - it really helps to hear from people who've been through this waiting game before!

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Malik Davis

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I've been dealing with this exact same frustration! After getting a $3,200 refund last year, I finally realized I was essentially giving the government a free loan while I could have been earning interest on that money myself. The breakthrough came when I understood that the "multiple jobs" checkbox is really meant for people with several jobs of similar income levels. Since my side work is only about 15% of my main job income, checking that box was causing massive overwithholding on my primary W4. Here's what I did based on similar advice: I unchecked "multiple jobs" on my main job W4 and used Step 4(b) to add about $1,200 in additional deductions (calculated by taking my $3,200 refund, dividing by 26 pay periods, then multiplying by 10). My very first paycheck after the change had an extra $123 that used to go straight to overwithholding! That's over $3,000 per year I now have access to instead of waiting for the IRS to return my own money. I was initially nervous about owing at tax time, but I figure even if I owe a few hundred dollars (as long as it's under $1,000 to avoid penalties), I'm still way better off having my money work for me throughout the year. Plus I can always fine-tune the adjustment if needed after seeing how this year plays out.

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Chloe Green

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This is exactly the kind of real-world success story I needed to hear! I've been sitting on the fence about making these W4 changes for weeks, but seeing that you got an immediate $123 increase per paycheck just from those two simple adjustments is incredibly motivating. Your point about the "multiple jobs" checkbox being designed for similar income levels really clarifies things for me. I'm in almost the same boat - my main job is the vast majority of my income and my side work is maybe 20% at most. No wonder I've been getting these massive refunds year after year! The calculation method you used makes perfect sense too, and I love that you took action despite being nervous about potentially owing at tax time. You're absolutely right that even owing a small amount beats giving the government a $3,000+ interest-free loan. I'm definitely going to follow your approach - uncheck that multiple jobs box and use Step 4(b) with the deduction calculation. Thanks for sharing your actual results - it's exactly what I needed to finally stop procrastinating and fix my overwithholding problem!

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Freya Johansen

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I've been dealing with this exact same overwithholding nightmare for years! Getting massive refunds sounds nice until you realize you're basically giving the government an interest-free loan of thousands of dollars while you could be investing that money or at least earning some interest on it. After reading through all these incredibly helpful responses, I'm convinced the issue is that "multiple jobs" checkbox. I had no idea it was designed for people with several substantial income sources rather than a main job plus smaller side gigs. That explains why I've been getting $4,000+ refunds despite trying to adjust my W4 multiple times. I'm definitely going to try the approach that so many people have had success with: uncheck the "multiple jobs" box on my primary W4 and use Step 4(b) to add deductions based on last year's refund. Using the calculation method mentioned (refund Γ· pay periods Γ— 10), that would put me at around $1,500 in additional deductions. It's honestly ridiculous that I've been essentially funding the government's operations with my money all year while getting zero return on it. Even if I end up owing a few hundred at tax time, that's so much better than continuing to give them a massive free loan. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - it's exactly what I needed to finally take action on this!

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Kylo Ren

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This is a great question that trips up a lot of investors! I went through the same confusion when I first started using margin. The key thing to understand is that margin interest isn't tied to specific stock purchases - it's treated as a general investment expense against your overall portfolio. So in your example, that $7.50 in margin interest can be applied against any investment income you have, not just gains from Stock Y that you bought on margin. However, as others have mentioned, it doesn't directly reduce your capital gains dollar-for-dollar. Instead, it goes on Schedule A as an itemized deduction (assuming you itemize), and it's limited to your net investment income for the year. One practical tip: if you're close to the standard deduction threshold, sometimes it makes sense to bunch investment expenses like margin interest into one tax year to push you over the itemization threshold. You might also want to consider the timing of when you realize gains vs. when you pay margin interest to maximize the tax benefit. Keep good records of all your margin interest payments throughout the year - your brokerage statement at year-end should show the total, but it's good to track it yourself too.

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Mei Wong

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Thanks for that practical tip about bunching investment expenses! I hadn't thought about timing the realization of gains and margin interest payments strategically. Could you elaborate on how that would work in practice? For example, if I know I'm going to have significant capital gains this year, would it make sense to increase my margin borrowing toward the end of the year to generate more deductible interest expense? Or is there a risk that strategy could backfire if my other itemized deductions don't add up to enough?

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Yuki Watanabe

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Great question about strategic timing! Yes, there are some legitimate timing strategies you can use, but you need to be careful not to let the tax tail wag the investment dog. Here's how it could work: If you know you'll have substantial capital gains in a given year and you're already close to itemizing, you might consider timing your margin borrowing to maximize the interest expense in that same tax year. For example, if you were planning to buy securities on margin anyway, doing it earlier in the year generates more deductible interest expense. However, I'd caution against borrowing just for the tax deduction - remember that margin interest rates are typically higher than what you might earn on safe investments, so you need the underlying investment to perform well enough to justify both the interest cost and the additional risk. The bigger risk you mentioned is absolutely real - if your total itemized deductions (including the margin interest) don't exceed the standard deduction, you get no benefit at all. This is especially tricky with the current high standard deduction amounts. A better approach might be to focus on timing the *realization* of gains rather than artificially increasing margin interest. If you have flexibility in when to sell winning positions, you could potentially bunch gains into years when you're already itemizing for other reasons.

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Nia Williams

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As someone who's dealt with this exact scenario, I can confirm what others have said - the margin interest isn't tied to specific stocks. The IRS treats it as general investment interest expense against your entire portfolio. In your example with the $7.50 margin interest and $65 gain on Stock X, you'd report the full $65 capital gain on Schedule D. The margin interest would only be deductible on Schedule A if you itemize, and only up to your net investment income for the year. One thing I learned the hard way: make sure you understand what counts as "net investment income" for this limitation. It includes interest, dividends, and short-term capital gains, but long-term capital gains only count if you make a special election (which can affect your tax rate on those gains). With the current standard deduction being so high, many investors find that small amounts of margin interest don't provide any actual tax benefit because they don't have enough total itemized deductions to exceed the standard deduction threshold. You might want to calculate whether itemizing would actually benefit you before assuming you'll get a deduction for the margin interest. Keep detailed records throughout the year - your broker will provide a summary, but it's good to track it yourself to catch any discrepancies early.

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GalacticGuru

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This is really helpful! I'm new to margin trading and had the same misconception about tying interest to specific stocks. Quick question about the "net investment income" limitation - if I have $200 in dividends, $50 in short-term capital gains, but $300 in margin interest for the year, does that mean I can only deduct $250 of the margin interest? And what happens to the remaining $50 - is it just lost, or can it carry forward to next year?

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