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Connor Byrne

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Just wanted to chime in - be careful about what's on your EIN letter. Mine also mentioned Form 720, but my accountant explained that the IRS often lists ALL potential forms a business might need, not necessarily what your specific business requires. Form 720 is pretty specialized for excise taxes on specific products/services.

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That's really helpful context! So basically the EIN paperwork is showing possibilities rather than requirements? Has anyone else found their EIN paperwork listing forms they didn't actually need to file?

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Connor Byrne

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Exactly right - the EIN paperwork often lists various potential forms as a general notice rather than specific requirements for your business. This happens all the time with my clients. When you apply for an EIN, the IRS system generates paperwork that includes information about forms that might potentially be relevant based on very broad business categories. It's more of a "heads up" about possible requirements rather than a specific directive for your unique business situation. Many of my clients have had forms listed that weren't actually applicable to their specific operations.

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Yara Abboud

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I run a small greenhouse business which has some similarities to landscaping. I've never had to file Form 720 because I don't deal with any of the excise taxable items. If you're just doing regular landscaping you should be fine without it! My advice is to check Schedule C instructions (if you're a single-member LLC) to make sure you're handling your tax situation correctly for your business type.

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PixelPioneer

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Are you sure about this? I thought Form 720 was related to payroll taxes. That's what my buddy who runs a business told me.

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I'm also an F1 student who went through this exact confusion last year! One thing that really helped me understand the timeline was keeping a tax calendar. Here's what I learned about the Robinhood document timeline: - 1042-S forms typically arrive between mid-March and early April (much later than 1099s for US persons) - Robinhood's transaction history is available year-round, but their annual summary usually gets finalized around the same time as the 1042-S - Don't panic if you don't see your 1042-S yet - international account tax documents are processed separately and always come later One mistake I almost made was trying to file before getting my 1042-S because I saw other students getting their refunds already. The dividend income on that form is crucial - even if it's just a few dollars, you need it for complete reporting. Also, I'd recommend downloading your monthly statements from Robinhood NOW rather than waiting until tax time. I learned this the hard way when trying to reconstruct a full year of trades in March - having monthly records made everything much cleaner. The good news is that once you understand the process, subsequent years become much more manageable. You'll know exactly what documents to expect and when to expect them.

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Omar Fawaz

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This timeline breakdown is so helpful! I'm definitely going to start downloading my monthly statements right now - I can see how trying to reconstruct everything at once would be a nightmare. Quick question about the annual summary you mentioned - is that different from the regular transaction history, or is it just a compiled version of the same data? I want to make sure I'm not missing any documents I should be collecting. Also, your point about not panicking over the late 1042-S timing is reassuring. I keep seeing other students posting about getting their refunds already and was starting to worry something was wrong with my account. It sounds like international students just have to wait longer for everything to process - good to know this is normal! One more thing - when you say the dividend income is crucial even if it's just a few dollars, does that mean I could face penalties for filing without it? I'm trying to understand if this is just about accuracy or if there are actual compliance issues with incomplete reporting.

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PixelWarrior

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The annual summary is essentially a compiled version of the same transaction data, but it's formatted specifically for tax purposes and includes year-end totals that make tax preparation easier. You're still going to need the detailed transaction history for calculating cost basis and gains, but the annual summary gives you a good overview to cross-check your numbers. Regarding the penalty question - yes, filing without reporting dividend income (even small amounts) could potentially result in compliance issues. The IRS expects you to report ALL income, and unreported dividend income could trigger penalties and interest if discovered later. It's not just about accuracy - it's about legal compliance with reporting requirements. The 1042-S also shows any withholding that was taken from your dividends, which you'll need for calculating any refunds you might be owed under your tax treaty. Without this form, you could miss out on getting back money that was over-withheld, or worse, you might under-report your tax liability. I know the wait is frustrating when you see other students getting their refunds, but trust me - it's much better to file correctly and completely than to file early and have to deal with amendments and potential penalties later. The peace of mind is worth the extra few weeks of waiting!

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Rami Samuels

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I just wanted to share my experience as someone who went through this exact situation two years ago as an F1 student. The confusion about 1042-S vs 1099 forms is completely normal, and you're asking all the right questions! A few practical tips that would have saved me stress: 1) Set up alerts in your Robinhood account for when tax documents become available - you'll get notified as soon as your 1042-S is ready, usually sometime in late March. 2) Start organizing your records now rather than waiting. Create a simple spreadsheet with columns for: Date, Action (Buy/Sell), Symbol, Shares, Price, Total Amount. This will make tax preparation much smoother. 3) Don't worry about the W8-BEN form - Robinhood likely had you complete this electronically during account setup when you provided your visa information. It's automatic for international accounts. 4) Your tax consultant is right about needing detailed transaction records. The 1042-S will only show dividend income, so you'll need to calculate and report your capital gains separately using your trading history. The most important thing is not to rush. Wait for your 1042-S even if it feels late, and make sure you understand both the dividend reporting (from the 1042-S) and capital gains reporting (from your transaction records) before filing. You're being appropriately cautious, which will serve you well. This gets much easier once you've done it the first time!

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Amara Torres

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - you need to check the TRUST DOCUMENT itself. Many irrevocable trusts have specific provisions about how trust assets should be managed, and some even explicitly address whether properties should be income-producing. As trustee, you're bound by the terms of the trust. If the document says the properties should be maintained for eventual use by beneficiaries, you might be violating your duties by trying to rent them out. Conversely, if it says assets should be managed to produce income, you could be in breach by leaving them vacant. This isn't just a tax question - it's a fiduciary responsibility question. I'd strongly recommend having an attorney who specializes in trust administration review the document before making any decisions about tax treatment.

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That's an excellent point I hadn't fully considered. The trust document does state that assets should be "prudently managed to preserve principal while generating reasonable income for beneficiaries" but doesn't specifically address real estate. Would that language suggest I should be trying to rent them out?

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Amara Torres

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Based on that language, yes, you likely have a fiduciary duty to try to generate income from these properties. The phrase "generating reasonable income for beneficiaries" creates an expectation that trust assets will be managed productively, not just held. This actually works in your favor tax-wise, as it supports your position that these are income-producing properties temporarily vacant, rather than personal-use properties. Document your efforts to prepare and market the properties for rental as part of fulfilling your trustee duties. Keep detailed records of all repairs, improvements, marketing attempts, and inquiries - this serves both your fiduciary obligation to beneficiaries and your tax documentation needs.

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Be really careful here! I tried something similar with my family trust properties and got audited. The IRS agent specifically focused on whether I had a genuine profit motive or was just trying to create tax losses. What saved me was having documentation showing: 1) Multiple attempts to rent the properties (saved emails with real estate agents, copies of listings) 2) Competitive market analysis showing reasonable rent expectations 3) Records of property improvements specifically aimed at making them rentable 4) A written business plan showing projected income and expenses Without these, I would have been toast. The agent told me they see lots of trustees trying to claim "ghost" rental properties that are really just sitting empty with no real attempt to rent them.

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Mason Kaczka

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Did the IRS give you any trouble about depreciation specifically? I'm in a similar situation and my accountant says depreciation is the biggest red flag for vacant properties since you can claim it even with zero income.

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Sienna Gomez

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The depreciation question is huge! In my audit, the IRS agent was actually fine with depreciation as long as I could prove legitimate business purpose. The key was showing that I was actively trying to rent the properties and had reasonable expectation of income. She explained that depreciation reflects the actual wear and deterioration of the property over time, which happens whether it's occupied or not. But you absolutely must demonstrate that these are held for investment/rental purposes, not personal use or just sitting idle with no business plan. What really helped was having my real estate agent provide written documentation that the properties were being marketed as rentals, plus repair invoices showing I was investing money to make them rent-ready. The agent said this clearly distinguished my situation from people just trying to generate paper losses on properties they never intended to rent.

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TechNinja

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This thread has been really helpful! I'm in a similar situation and was confused about all these different credentials. Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like for basic tax prep work, someone with PTIN and EFIN who's working toward their CPA should be fine. I'm curious though - how do you actually verify someone's credentials? Is there a way to look up whether their PTIN and EFIN are current and valid? I want to make sure I'm not just taking someone's word for it when they claim to have these certifications. Also, for those who mentioned Enrolled Agents - is there a directory where you can search for EAs in your area? That sounds like it might be exactly what I need for my tax situation.

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Ethan Wilson

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Great questions! Yes, you can verify credentials. For PTINs, you can check the IRS Directory of Federal Tax Return Preparers at irs.gov - just search by name or PTIN number to confirm it's valid and current. EFINs are harder to verify directly, but you can ask the preparer to show you their IRS authorization letter. For Enrolled Agents, there's an official IRS directory at irs.gov where you can search by location. Just look for "Find an Enrolled Agent" - it shows active EAs in your area along with their contact info and specialties. I'd also recommend asking any potential preparer for their credentials in writing and checking references from other clients with similar tax situations. Don't just take their word for it - legitimate professionals are happy to provide verification of their credentials.

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One thing I'd add is to make sure whoever you hire carries professional liability insurance, regardless of their credentials. I learned this the hard way when a preparer made an error on my return that resulted in penalties and interest. Even someone with all the right certifications can make mistakes, and you want to be protected if that happens. Also, don't be afraid to ask about their error resolution process upfront. A good tax professional should be willing to represent you if there are issues with the return they prepared, and many will cover penalties that result from their mistakes. This is especially important if you're dealing with a complex situation like the large tax bill you mentioned - you want someone who'll stand behind their work. The credential discussion here has been really helpful, but I think practical experience and accountability are just as important as the letters after someone's name.

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Avery Saint

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I went through this exact situation with Amazon Flex last year! Here's what fixed it for me: 1. Clear your browser cache completely 2. Try using a different browser altogether (Firefox worked when Chrome failed) 3. Disable any ad blockers or privacy extensions 4. Make sure you're using the exact same email address as your Flex account 5. If all else fails, contact Amazon Flex support through the app Such a relief when I finally got in! If you're really stuck, you can also request your wage and income transcript directly from the IRS which will show what Amazon reported for you.

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Demi Hall

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Hey Zoe! I totally feel your stress about this - tax deadline anxiety is real! I've been doing gig work for a few years and ran into similar issues. A few things that might help: First, definitely try Ryan's suggestion about the Stripe portal - that's actually how I accessed mine last year when the main Amazon portal was being glitchy. Also, Benjamin's tip about using the mobile app instead of the website is spot on - I've noticed the app tends to be more reliable. If you still can't access it, don't panic! You can absolutely file your taxes without the official 1099 form. Just gather all your payment records from the Amazon Flex app (go to Earnings > Payment History) and add up your total for 2023. The IRS cares more about you reporting the income accurately than having the physical form. One more thing since you mentioned caring for your mom - make sure to look into the Credit for Caring if she qualifies as your dependent. And if you're using your car for deliveries, don't forget to track those business miles for deductions! You've got this! šŸ’Ŗ

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Salim Nasir

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Thanks for this helpful breakdown, Demi! I'm actually in a similar situation with my elderly father, so the Credit for Caring tip is really valuable. Quick question - do you know if there's a specific income threshold for that credit? I've been doing some research but the IRS website can be pretty confusing to navigate. Also, for the business mile tracking, is it better to use an app or just keep a manual log? I've been pretty inconsistent with tracking this year and worried I might be missing out on significant deductions.

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