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Ali Anderson

Yes, you can absolutely get your deposit before your transcript updates again. Happened to me two weeks ago. Transcript showed processing on Friday with codes 570/971 but no DDD. Money hit my account Tuesday morning. Transcript didn't update until that Friday. The systems aren't connected in real-time. They issue refunds daily but only update transcripts weekly for most people.

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Zadie Patel

The IRS utilizes a dual-system approach for processing. Your Account Management System (AMS) transcript typically updates on a weekly basis if you're on that cycle, while the Refund Processing System (RPS) operates daily. In many cases, the RPS will initiate your Direct Deposit through the Treasury Department's Bureau of Fiscal Service before your next scheduled AMS transcript update. I'd recommend monitoring both the WMR tool and your financial institution, as either could reflect your refund status change before your transcript updates.

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Evelyn Rivera

According to the California FTB website (https://www.ftb.ca.gov/refund/index.asp), refund processing times are currently running about 2-3 weeks for e-filed returns. Since yours was accepted on February 11th, you're right in that window now. The 2025 date is almost certainly a display error - I've seen multiple reports of this on r/tax and other forums. No state tax agency schedules refunds a year out.

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Julia Hall

Have you checked if your bank information was entered correctly? Could there be an issue with routing or account numbers? Is it possible the refund was offset for any outstanding state debts? These are the common reasons refunds don't arrive as expected, even when the system shows funded. The year showing 2025 is definitely wrong though - I've seen this happen multiple times with California's system.

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Lara Woods

I'm not convinced these transcript codes tell the whole story. The IRS systems are notoriously outdated and often display incomplete information. Just because you don't see a code doesn't mean you won't get the credit. My transcript never showed a CTC code last year, yet the amount was included in my refund. I think people put too much faith in these transcript codes when they're really just internal processing markers.

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Adrian Hughes

Oh my goodness, I feel your confusion! ๐Ÿ˜ซ The tax system can be so overwhelming! But I promise the transcript codes DO matter and ARE reliable indicators of what's happening with your return. I've helped dozens of people in our community understand their transcripts, and while there are occasional glitches, they generally show an accurate picture of your tax situation. If you're only seeing EIC and not CTC, it's definitely worth investigating rather than just hoping it will appear in your refund!

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Ella Russell

There's another approach that might give you more insight. Have you considered checking your Account Transcript rather than just the Return Transcript? The Account Transcript often shows pending actions that explain these date changes. Also, what cycle code appears on your transcript? The cycle code can tell you which weekly processing group you're in, which affects when updates actually appear.

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Mohammed Khan

Omg I got so stressed about this last year! My as-of date changed SIX TIMES in two weeks and I was freaking out thinking something was wrong with my return. Called the IRS and waited 2 hours just to be told it was normal. Then my refund was delayed an additional 60 days for "verification" anyway. The changing dates meant nothing in the end. ๐Ÿ˜ญ Don't let it stress you out like it did me!

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Joshua Wood

The date change is actually part of the normal weekly processing cycle. The IRS runs their main processing on Sunday nights, which is why your date changed from March 3rd to March 10th - exactly 7 days apart. I saw this same pattern last year when I filed on January 28th. My transcript dates changed on February 4th, then February 11th, and finally on February 18th all my information appeared. Got my refund on February 21st. This year I filed on February 5th and experienced the same weekly date changes.

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Justin Evans

I had this happen too. Dates changed three times. Still blank. Then everything appeared at once. No warning. No gradual updates. Just suddenly complete. The system works in batches. Weekly updates are common. Your return is in queue. Not forgotten. Just waiting its turn. Should update soon based on your timeline. Hang in there.

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Avery Flores

Tbh this happens way more than ppl realize. My transcript was clean for 3 wks after WMR showed review msg. Then got DDD outta nowhere. The key is checking if u have TC 570/971 combo - that's when u know ur actually under review fr. The "as of" date changing by itself doesn't mean much - mine changed 4x during processing. Wanna know a weird trick? Check ur account transcript around midnight on the day after ur cycle date (so if ur 05, check early Fri morning) - that's when updates usually hit the system b4 they show publicly.

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Zoe Gonzalez

According to Internal Revenue Manual section 21.5.6.4.7, there is a specific protocol for return review flagging. The WMR tool often displays cautionary messages based on preliminary screening criteria as outlined in IRM 3.12.37, while transcript updates require completion of the initial review phase. Community consensus based on hundreds of reports this filing season suggests approximately 65% of returns with WMR review messages but clean transcripts ultimately process normally without developing actual hold codes. Continue monitoring both systems weekly, as pursuant to IRM guidelines, true reviews typically manifest in transcripts within 14 days of initial flagging.

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Isabella Martin

Could you clarify which specific IRM section covers the relationship between WMR messages and transcript updates? I'd like to read more about this process.

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Elijah Jackson

Thank you for sharing this detailed information from the IRM! This is incredibly helpful for understanding what's happening behind the scenes. I appreciate you taking the time to provide these specific references.

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Emma Johnson

Have you tried checking your tax transcript instead? I was in a similar situation last month and discovered my transcript had updated even though WMR hadn't changed. I logged into the IRS website on March 28th, downloaded my account transcript, and found out they had adjusted my refund amount slightly and were processing it. Three days later, the money appeared in my account! The transcript showed codes that explained exactly what was happening, while WMR was still stuck on that generic message.

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Liam Brown

The blank refund field combined with the Head of Household status often indicates they're verifying your eligibility for that filing status. I went through this last year when I filed on April 2nd. It's a very common verification process, especially if this is your first time using that filing status. The good news is that once they complete verification, things move quickly. In my case, it took exactly 35 days from filing to refund, and the WMR tool updated only 48 hours before the deposit hit my account.

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ID.me Verification Required - Can I Go In Person Without Letter?

So I logged into ID.me today and it says I need to verify my tax return, but I haven't received any letter from the IRS yet. Last year I had to verify in person with an appointment, but at least I had the letter with instructions. Can I just go to the IRS office without the letter and verify in person? I work remotely so I can go during business hours, but I'm getting anxious about my refund being delayed like it was before.

Sara Hellquiem

Oh my goodness, don't go without the letter! I'm worried you'd be wasting your time completely! The IRS verification process is incredibly specific, and they NEED that letter number to even help you. I've seen so many people in my tax groups get turned away because they didn't have the proper documentation. The letter contains a unique verification code that the IRS office needs to access your case in their system. I'd be checking my mailbox daily if I were you!

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Charlee Coleman

It might be worth checking if your state tax agency has any verification requirements too. Sometimes the ID.me notification could possibly be related to state taxes rather than federal. I had a client who was confused about a similar situation, and it turned out the verification was for their state return, not the federal one. You might want to check both your federal and state tax account portals to see if there are any notices or requirements listed there.

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Millie Long

According to IRS Publication 5027, if your employer doesn't provide your W-2 by January 31, you should: 1. Contact your employer first (which you've done) 2. Contact the IRS after February 14th 3. Be prepared to provide your employer's name, address, phone number, and EIN (if known) 4. Provide your dates of employment, estimate of wages, and federal income tax withheld The IRS will send a formal request to your employer. If you still don't receive your W-2, you'll need to file Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) with your tax return. Under IRC ยง6722, employers can face penalties of $50-$280 per form for failing to provide W-2s or 1099s to workers, so mention this if you speak to your employer again.

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KaiEsmeralda

I've seen this happen more times than you'd think. Most people don't realize employers sometimes do this deliberately hoping you'll just give up. Last year, someone in my tax prep group had THREE employers pull this stunt. The community wisdom here is: document everything, be persistent with the IRS, and don't let tax deadlines pass. File for an extension if needed, but don't skip filing altogether because of your employer's actions - that only hurts you in the long run with potential penalties and interest.

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Aurora St.Pierre

I'm not sure if this helps, but I think the tax topics might be related to different stages of processing? I had no tax topic for about two weeks after filing, then suddenly it showed Tax Topic 152, and my refund came three days later. Maybe it's just that your return hasn't been assigned to that specific processing stage yet? I'd probably give it another week before getting too concerned.

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Grace Johnson

Be careful about assuming no tax topic means everything is fine! I had this exact situation last year and ended up with: โ€ข Return stuck in processing for 11 weeks โ€ข Had to call IRS multiple times โ€ข Eventually found out I had an ID verification hold โ€ข No notification was ever sent The IRS system doesn't always notify you of issues. If you're past 21 days with no movement, call them immediately. Don't wait like I did.

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