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Diego Rojas

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Has anyone used Drake Tax software to report this kind of situation? I'm trying to figure out the best way to enter the grant as non-taxable and handle the M-1 adjustments in Drake, but the software seems to get confused when I try to create the deferred revenue portion.

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I use Drake and had a similar grant situation. In Drake, I entered the full grant amount as "Other Income" on the Income screen. Then I went to the M-1 screen and entered a negative adjustment for the non-taxable portion with a clear description. For the deferred revenue part, I handled that on the balance sheet side rather than trying to do it through the income statement in Drake.

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Diego Rojas

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Thank you! That's really helpful. I was trying to do everything through the income screens and getting confused. I'll try your approach of handling the deferred portion through the balance sheet entries instead.

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Jessica Nolan

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For S-Corp grant reporting, the key is understanding whether you have a performance obligation. If the grant requires specific activities or expenditures, only recognize income as you fulfill those obligations - this keeps the unused portion as deferred revenue on your balance sheet. Here's what I'd recommend for your 1120-S: 1. If the entire grant is truly non-taxable and has no performance requirements, include it in book income and back it out on M-1 Line 5 as "Income recorded on books this year not included on return." 2. If there are performance obligations for the unused portion, treat only the "earned" portion as current income, with the remainder as deferred revenue. This approach is cleaner for multi-year situations. 3. Make sure your grant agreement clearly states the tax treatment - some grants are explicitly non-taxable while others might create taxable income depending on how funds are used. The documentation is crucial here. Keep detailed records of how you determined the taxable vs non-taxable portions, especially if the grant has specific use restrictions. This will be important if you face any questions later from the IRS or state tax authorities. What type of grant did you receive? The specific nature (research, PPP forgiveness, state economic development, etc.) can impact the exact treatment required.

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This is really comprehensive guidance - thank you! I'm dealing with a similar situation as the original poster but with a state economic development grant. The grant agreement mentions we need to maintain certain employment levels for 3 years to avoid repayment, but it doesn't specify exact spending requirements. Would this employment maintenance requirement constitute a "performance obligation" in your view? I'm trying to figure out if I should treat the entire amount as current income with M-1 adjustment, or if the repayment risk means I should defer some portion until the 3-year period is satisfied. Also, has anyone dealt with the accounting for potential grant recapture if performance requirements aren't met? I assume that would be handled as a liability on the balance sheet, but I'm not sure how that interacts with the income recognition and M-1 reporting.

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Leo Simmons

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your actual income ended up being significantly higher than what you estimated when you enrolled in your marketplace plan, be prepared that you might have to pay back some or all of your premium tax credit when you file Form 8962. I learned this the hard way last year when I got a big promotion mid-year. My income went up about 35%, which pushed me into a different affordability bracket. Had to repay about $1,800 of the premium tax credits I'd received. Just a heads up so you're not shocked when you do the calculations.

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Oh no, that's exactly what I'm worried about. I did pick up some freelance work midyear that wasn't part of my original income estimate. Is there any cap on how much they can make you repay? I'm seriously stressing now.

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Leo Simmons

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There are repayment caps based on your income level, unless you end up above 400% of the federal poverty line. For tax year 2024, if you're single and your income is less than 200% of FPL, the repayment is capped at $350. Between 200-300% FPL, it's capped at $875. Between 300-400% FPL, it's $1,400. If your income went above 400% FPL, unfortunately there's no cap, and you'd have to repay all the premium tax credits you received. But don't panic yet - calculate your exact Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) first. Some deductions like student loan interest or HSA contributions can lower your MAGI and might keep you under the threshold.

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Jay Lincoln

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago and completely understand your stress! The 20-day deadline feels terrifying, but you have more time than you think. A few practical tips that helped me: 1. While waiting for your official 1095-A, start gathering your other tax documents and income information. You'll need your final AGI from your tax return to calculate the household income percentage. 2. The IRS is generally understanding about delays caused by waiting for required forms. If your 1095-A doesn't arrive in time, you can write a brief letter explaining you're waiting for the marketplace to provide the required documentation and include it with your response. 3. Consider calling your local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center if you get really stuck. They often have staff who can walk you through the 8962 form over the phone. 4. Don't let the anxiety overwhelm you - I know it's easier said than done! Even if there are complications, the IRS wants to work with taxpayers who are making good faith efforts to comply. You've got this! The form looks scary but once you have your 1095-A in hand, it's mostly just transferring numbers from one form to another. Take it step by step and don't be afraid to ask for help if you need it.

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This is such helpful advice, especially about the IRS being understanding about delays! I'm dealing with something similar right now - got my letter last week and still waiting on my 1095-A. The tip about writing a letter to explain the delay is really reassuring. I've been losing sleep over this deadline, but you're right that they probably deal with this situation all the time since the marketplace forms are notoriously slow to arrive. Did you end up having to pay any penalties when you submitted late, or were they pretty reasonable about the circumstances? Also, for anyone else reading this - the Taxpayer Assistance Center suggestion is gold. I completely forgot those existed but that could be a great backup plan if the online resources aren't clicking for me.

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If you're going to file separately to try to save on the PTC repayment, be aware of these downsides: - No student loan interest deduction - No Lifetime Learning Credit - No Earned Income Credit - Reduced IRA contribution limits - Lower capital loss deduction limit - Lower standard deduction than joint filing - Higher tax rates kick in at lower income levels - Child and dependent care credit limitations I'm a tax preparer and often see couples who think filing separately will save them money, but end up paying MORE overall because they lose so many benefits. Run the full calculation both ways before deciding!

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Thanks for the comprehensive list! I'm wondering though, for married filing separately, can one spouse still itemize deductions if the other takes the standard deduction? I heard the rule changed with the 2018 tax law.

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QuantumQuasar

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As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I'd strongly recommend running the numbers both ways before deciding on your filing status. The alternative calculation on Form 8962 is definitely your friend here - it allows you to split the year based on your marriage date. For the 8 months before marriage (January-August), your husband can use his individual income of $25,000 for PTC calculations. For September-December, you'll need to use the combined $120,000 income, which will likely trigger repayment for those months since you're well over the 400% FPL threshold. One thing to consider that others haven't mentioned - if your husband had qualifying life events during the year (like the marriage), he should have reported this to the marketplace to adjust the APTC going forward. Since that didn't happen, you're dealing with the reconciliation now. Also worth noting: the repayment cap might apply to your situation if your income is between 200-400% of FPL for any portion of the year. For 2023, this cap could limit your repayment to around $1,550-$2,800 depending on your exact circumstances. Don't let TurboTax be your only calculation - consider getting the forms and doing the math manually or with a tax professional who specializes in ACA issues. The software sometimes misses nuances in these complex situations.

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Zara Shah

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This is really helpful information! I'm curious about the repayment cap you mentioned - how exactly does that work when you have a mid-year marriage like this? Does the cap apply to the entire year or just the months when their income was under 400% FPL? Also, when you say "doing the math manually," are there specific IRS worksheets or publications that walk through these complex ACA calculations step by step?

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Kai Rivera

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I would probably contact Dave again, but specifically ask to speak with their ACH department or a supervisor. Sometimes the frontline customer service representatives don't have visibility into pending transactions that haven't fully posted yet. In my experience, using the phrase "I need to speak with someone who can verify pending ACH transfers that might not be visible in the system yet" can get you to someone more helpful. If that doesn't work within 24 hours, you might need to consider filing a CFPB complaint, which often prompts faster action from financial institutions.

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This is good advice. Also worth noting that many digital banks have separate departments for ACH processing versus general customer service. The general CS reps often can only see what's in their customer-facing system, not the back-end processing queue.

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Exactly right. When I had this exact issue with Dave last year, I specifically asked for their "ACH Research Team" and they found my deposit was actually in their system but flagged for manual review because it was over $3,500. They released it within 4 hours after I escalated.

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Miguel Diaz

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I've been through this exact situation with Dave last year! Here's what actually helped me get results: when you call Dave, specifically ask to be transferred to their "Payment Operations" or "ACH Processing" department - don't just talk to regular customer service. The front-line reps literally cannot see pending ACH transfers that are in their processing queue. Also, get a reference number from Cross River for the transaction they sent - this gives you something concrete to reference when Dave claims they haven't received anything. In my case, Dave had received the deposit 2 days earlier but it was sitting in their internal review system. Once I had the Cross River reference number and spoke to the right department, they located it immediately and released it the same day.

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Kylo Ren

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to the US tax system and had no idea there were different departments within these digital banks. When you say "Payment Operations" - is that something all banks have, or is it specific to Dave? Also, did you have to wait on hold for a long time to get transferred to the right department? I'm trying to figure out the best time to call to avoid long wait times.

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Tami Morgan

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Your understanding is spot on! Options with different strike prices OR different expiration dates are generally not considered "substantially identical securities" for wash sale purposes. So in your AMZN example, buying calls with either a different strike or expiration after selling at a loss should typically not trigger a wash sale. I've been trading options for about 8 months and initially had the same concerns. What really helped was realizing that the "substantially identical" test is quite strict - ALL contract specifications (underlying, strike, expiration, call/put type) need to match for it to apply. A few practical tips from my experience: - Keep detailed records in a spreadsheet (underlying, strike, expiration, dates, P&L) because Robinhood's wash sale reporting can be inaccurate - If you want to maintain similar exposure after a loss, try buying options with strikes $5-10 away from your original position - makes it crystal clear they're different securities - Remember that even one day difference in expiration typically breaks the wash sale rule The key is documentation and understanding the actual rules rather than being overly conservative. Most active options traders naturally avoid wash sales just by how we trade - constantly adjusting strikes based on market moves and using different expirations for various strategies. Don't let wash sale fears prevent you from making good trading decisions - just keep good records and you'll be fine!

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Ali Anderson

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Your understanding is absolutely correct! Options with different strike prices OR different expiration dates are generally not considered "substantially identical securities" for wash sale purposes. In your AMZN example, buying calls with a different strike or expiration after selling at a loss should typically not trigger a wash sale. I've been trading options for about a year and had the exact same confusion when I started. The key insight is that the "substantially identical" test requires ALL aspects to match - underlying stock, strike price, expiration date, and option type (call/put). If any one of these differs, you're generally in the clear. A practical approach I use: if I take a loss on options and want to maintain similar exposure, I'll deliberately choose strikes that are $5-10 different from my original position. For example, if I sold AMZN $2000 calls at a loss, I might buy $2010 or $1990 calls. This gives me nearly identical market exposure while making it crystal clear they're different securities. Also want to echo what others have mentioned about record keeping - start tracking your trades in a simple spreadsheet now. Include underlying, strike, expiration, trade dates, and P&L. Robinhood's wash sale reporting has been inconsistent in my experience, flagging some trades incorrectly while missing others. The 31-day rule is always the safest if you're uncertain, but understanding these nuances gives you much more flexibility in your trading strategy without unnecessary tax complications!

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