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Edwards Hugo

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Has anyone noticed how tax software doesn't handle these weird K1 scenarios very well? I got stuck on the exact same Box 17 AC with multiple years listed. Ended up calling my tax software's support line and they said to just use the most recent year and ignore the others. For any codes without dollar amounts (like your ZZ code), they said to leave them out completely if possible or enter $0 if the software forces you to enter something.

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Gianna Scott

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Which tax software are you using? I found TaxAct actually has a decent help section that explains some of these K1 codes, though it didn't specifically address the multiple years in Box 17 AC.

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Jibriel Kohn

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I've been dealing with S-Corp K-1s for several years now and can confirm what others have said - for Box 17 AC with multiple years listed, you only report the most recent year (2024 in your case) on your current tax return. The prior years are there for informational/tracking purposes only. For the ZZ code with "k3 not included" and no dollar amount, this is totally normal. The Schedule K-3 is for international transactions, and if your S-Corp doesn't have any foreign activities, there's no K-3 form to include. When your tax software asks for an amount with code ZZ, you can safely enter $0. This won't cause any issues with the IRS - they understand that some codes are informational only. One tip: make sure to keep a copy of your actual K-1 with your tax records in case there are ever questions later about why certain codes show zero amounts in your return versus what's printed on the form.

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Olivia Clark

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with S-Corp K-1s and was getting overwhelmed by all the codes and multiple year data. The tip about keeping a copy of the actual K-1 with tax records is something I hadn't thought of but makes total sense. Quick question - when you say "informational/tracking purposes" for the prior years in Box 17 AC, is that mainly for the IRS to see the business growth pattern, or is there some other reason they include multiple years?

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Ryan Andre

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I'm brand new to this community and dealing with this exact same situation! Filed my taxes in late January, received my refund about a month ago, but my wage & income transcript has been completely blank this entire time. I was getting really concerned that maybe there was an error with my employer's W-2 submission or something went wrong during processing. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a huge relief! It's incredible how common this issue is and how many people wait 2-3 months for their wage transcripts to populate even after getting their refunds. The explanation about the IRS having separate internal verification systems versus the public-facing transcripts really helps make sense of why this happens. What strikes me most is how the IRS can successfully process our returns, verify all our income data, and issue refunds while we're stuck looking at completely blank wage transcripts for months. It's definitely one of those confusing IRS processes that causes unnecessary anxiety when you don't know it's normal. Thanks to everyone who shared their timelines and reassured newcomers like me that this is just part of how the system works. Definitely saved me from making panic calls to my employer or spending hours trying to reach the IRS! This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these kinds of tax mysteries.

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Emily Sanjay

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@Ryan Andre Welcome to the community! I m'also new here and literally just experienced this exact same thing - filed in mid-February, got my refund 3 weeks ago, but my wage transcript is still sitting there completely empty. I was starting to think maybe my SSN got mixed up in their system or my employer made some filing error. It s'honestly such a relief to find this thread and see that SO many people go through this same confusing experience every year! What really blew my mind was learning that the IRS can access all our W-2 data internally for processing but it takes months for that same data to show up on the transcripts we can actually see. Makes you wonder what other behind-the-scenes systems they re'running that we have no visibility into. This community has been amazing for getting real answers about these IRS quirks - way better than trying to decode their cryptic official guidance!

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I'm new to this community and experiencing this exact same issue! Filed my return in early February, already got my refund three weeks ago, but my wage & income transcript is still completely blank while all other transcripts show everything properly. I was starting to panic thinking maybe my employer messed up the W-2 submission or there was some kind of system error with my SSN. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful and reassuring! It's amazing how many people deal with this same confusing situation every year. The explanation about the IRS having separate internal systems for processing returns versus updating public transcripts really makes sense now. It's honestly mind-boggling that they can verify our income, process everything, and send out refunds while we're sitting here staring at blank wage transcripts for months! This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding these IRS quirks that they don't explain anywhere else. Definitely beats spending hours on hold trying to get answers directly from them. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and timelines - really helps newcomers like me understand that this is just normal IRS weirdness and not something to stress about!

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Zara Shah

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Another thing to consider: if your dad itemizes deductions, he may need to reduce the theft loss by 10% of his AGI and $100. But if he can claim it as an investment theft loss on Schedule A (instead of a capital loss), he won't be limited to the $3,000 annual deduction limit for capital losses.

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Luca Bianchi

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I don't think that's right anymore. The 10% AGI floor was for casualty losses. Ponzi schemes qualify for a different treatment. My father-in-law went through this in 2023 and was able to deduct the full amount without the AGI limitation.

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Zoe Stavros

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Based on what everyone's shared here, it sounds like your dad has a solid case for claiming this as a theft loss. The key points I'm seeing are: 1. Make sure you have all the SEC documentation proving it was officially declared a Ponzi scheme 2. Use Form 4684 and possibly Form 8949 as mentioned by Ravi 3. The timing matters - claim it in the year the SEC declared it fraudulent, not when he invested 4. Revenue Procedure 2009-20 could be your best friend here - lets you deduct 95% of the loss right away Given that your dad is on a fixed income and this hit him so hard financially, I'd really recommend getting professional help to make sure you maximize the tax benefits. Whether that's a CPA experienced with investment fraud or one of those document analysis services people mentioned, the potential tax savings could be substantial. Also document EVERYTHING - bank statements, original investment paperwork, SEC filings, settlement details. The IRS will want a clear paper trail showing the original investment amount and what was recovered. Hope your dad can get some financial relief from this terrible situation!

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This is such a comprehensive summary, thank you Zoe! I'm saving this comment to reference when I help my dad with his paperwork. One quick question - you mentioned Revenue Procedure 2009-20 lets you deduct 95% of the loss right away. Does that mean he can't claim the full $141,000 loss, or is the 95% rule just about timing (like not having to wait for final settlement amounts)? I want to make sure we're not leaving money on the table if there's a way to eventually claim the full amount.

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Has anyone here actually moved specifically for tax purposes and was it worth it? I'm considering leaving California for Nevada or Wyoming before selling my business next year (looking at a gain around $1.2 million), but wondering if the hassle is really worth the tax savings.

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Chris Elmeda

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I moved from New York to Florida in 2021 specifically to avoid NY state tax on a large crypto windfall. Saved about $68,000 in state taxes, but California is even higher than NY so you'd save more. Totally worth it for me, but I was planning to leave NY anyway. Big warning though: establish residency AT LEAST a full year before your sale. NY department of revenue still tried to audit me even though I had clearly moved. Had to provide cell phone location data, utility bills, and even grocery receipts to prove I really lived in Florida.

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Amara Okafor

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With a $1.2 million gain, you're looking at potentially saving around $159,600 in California state taxes (13.3% top rate) by establishing residency in Nevada or Wyoming before selling. That's definitely life-changing money and worth the hassle for most people. However, California is notoriously aggressive about auditing people who move right before large financial events - they call it the "golden handcuffs" audit. You'll need to be absolutely meticulous about establishing true residency. I'd recommend: 1. Move at least 12-18 months before selling if possible 2. Spend at least 183+ days physically in your new state each year 3. Change EVERYTHING - voter registration, driver's license, bank accounts, doctors, etc. 4. Keep detailed records of where you spend each day 5. Consider selling your California residence entirely to show clear intent The audit risk is real but manageable if you truly commit to the move. Just don't try to fake it - California has sophisticated methods for tracking where people actually live and the penalties for getting caught are severe.

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Hannah White

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually in a similar situation but with stock options instead of a business sale. One question - you mentioned keeping detailed records of where you spend each day. What's the best way to do this? Just a simple calendar or is there some app or system that would hold up better in an audit? Also, when you say "consider selling your California residence entirely," does that mean renting wouldn't be enough to show clear intent? I was thinking about keeping my current place as a rental property but maybe that's a red flag for auditors?

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Liam Mendez

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I know exactly how stressful that message can be - I got the same "return closed" notification from Input Correction ERS/Rejects about 5 weeks ago and had the exact same panic! But after going through it, I can tell you it's actually really good news. When they say "closed the return," they mean they finished processing whatever correction or review was needed - not that you're denied. The ERS team handles returns flagged for manual review, so this message means they resolved the issue and your return is moving forward. The late night timing is totally normal for their automated system. I ended up getting my refund deposited 12 days after that message. Don't reply since they said not to, just keep checking Where's My Refund every few days. Your refund is definitely coming - you're actually in the final stretch now! πŸ’°πŸ™

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@Liam Mendez Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It s'incredibly reassuring to hear that you went through the exact same panic and everything worked out. 12 days is totally manageable - I was terrified I d'be waiting months or that something went wrong. Reading all these comments from people who got that same scary message and then received their refunds is giving me so much peace of mind. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain what s'actually happening because that IRS message was honestly the most confusing thing ever πŸ˜…

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I completely understand your stress about that message! I received the exact same "return closed" notification from Input Correction ERS/Rejects about 3 weeks ago and was absolutely panicking thinking they denied my refund. But it's actually great news! When they say "closed the return," they mean they finished reviewing and correcting whatever issue was flagging your return - not that you're denied. The ERS (Error Resolution System) team handles returns that need manual review or corrections, so this message means they've resolved the problem and your return is cleared to move forward in the system. The late night timing at 8:59 PM is completely normal - their automated system sends these updates whenever they complete processing, regardless of the hour. I ended up getting my refund deposited exactly 11 days after receiving that message. Since they specifically said "You do not need to respond," definitely don't reply to it. Just keep checking Where's My Refund every few days and monitor your bank account. You're actually in the home stretch now - the hardest part (waiting for manual review) is over! Your refund should hit within the next 1-2 weeks. Hang in there! πŸ’°πŸ™

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