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3 I've been betting on sports apps for years and honestly never filed in other states. Just reported everything on my home state return. No issues so far, but sounds like I might be doing it wrong?
8 Technically yes, but realistically the states probably won't come after you unless you had major winnings. The sportsbooks are required to issue W-2Gs for large payouts (usually over $600) though, and those get reported to tax authorities.
This is a really complex area that trips up a lot of people! Based on what I've seen, you're right to be concerned about proper reporting. Generally, you do need to file non-resident returns in states where you were physically present when placing winning bets, regardless of whether it was through an app or at a physical location. The key factor is your physical location when the bet was placed, not where the sportsbook is licensed. However, there are some practical considerations that might help: 1. Many states have minimum filing thresholds for non-residents (often $1,000-$2,500) 2. You'll get credit on your PA return for taxes paid to other states to avoid double taxation 3. Some of your out-of-state winnings might fall below reporting thresholds For your $8,500 in winnings, I'd recommend getting the location data from each sportsbook (most can provide this if requested) and checking each state's non-resident filing requirements. You might find that you only need to file in 1-2 states rather than all of them. The "state sourcing" question in your tax software is asking exactly this - where the income was earned geographically. Don't guess on this one since the penalties for incorrect state filing can add up quickly.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar situation but have been putting off dealing with it. When you mention getting location data from sportsbooks, how exactly do you request that? Do you just call customer service or is there a specific form? Also, do you know if the state tax credits are automatic when filing or do you have to manually calculate and claim them? I'm worried about making errors since this is my first year dealing with multi-state gambling income.
From my experience working in tax preparation, the IRS Where's My Refund tool does update daily (usually between midnight and 6 AM EST), but your individual status changes depend on weekly processing cycles at the different service centers. I've noticed that returns with standard deductions and W-2 income only tend to move faster, while those with credits like EITC, CTC, or education credits often get held up in additional review cycles. Since you mentioned you just graduated, if you claimed education credits or student loan interest deduction, that might explain any delays. The good news is that March filers typically see faster processing since the IRS isn't dealing with the February rush anymore. Keep checking Thursday/Friday mornings - that's when I've seen most movement for my clients this year!
This is really valuable insight from a tax professional! I'm curious about the education credit review process - do you have any sense of how much longer those additional review cycles typically add to the processing time? I also claimed the AOTC for my last semester, and I'm wondering if I should expect a few more weeks of waiting compared to a standard return. The Thursday/Friday pattern you mentioned aligns with what several others have observed, so I'm definitely going to adjust my checking schedule accordingly!
Based on what I've seen with education credit reviews, they typically add about 2-3 weeks to the normal processing timeline. The IRS has to verify the forms 1098-T data against what you reported, and sometimes there are discrepancies in timing (like when schools report tuition paid vs. when you actually paid it). Since you filed in March, I'd expect to see movement by early to mid-April if everything checks out. One thing to watch for on your transcript is TC 971 with notice codes - that usually indicates they're requesting additional documentation. But don't panic if you see it, sometimes it resolves automatically when their systems catch up!
I've been through this exact situation! Filed on March 12th last year as a new grad and was obsessively checking WMR every few hours (definitely not recommended for your sanity). From what I learned, the tool does update daily around 6 AM EST, but your actual status changes depend on which processing center handles your return and their weekly batch cycles. Most people see real movement on Wednesdays through Fridays. Since you just graduated, if you claimed any education credits like AOTC or student loan interest deduction, that can add 2-3 weeks to processing time for verification. My advice: check once on Thursday mornings and try to resist the daily refresh marathon. I know it's tough when you're counting on that money for moving expenses (been there!), but the constant checking just adds stress without speeding things up. Your refund will come!
This is such an important warning! I've seen way too many people get taken advantage of by these predatory tax preparers. Here are some red flags everyone should watch out for: ⢠They promise you a bigger refund than other preparers ⢠They ask you to sign blank forms or won't let you review before filing ⢠They charge based on your refund amount rather than complexity of return ⢠They don't have a permanent office location (working out of temporary locations) ⢠They won't provide you with copies of your completed return ⢠They guarantee specific refund amounts before reviewing your documents Always ask for a written fee agreement upfront and make sure your refund goes directly to YOUR bank account. If something feels off, trust your gut and find someone else. Your tax refund is YOUR money - don't let scammers take what belongs to you!
This is such valuable advice! I'm new to filing taxes and honestly didn't know about most of these red flags. The one about signing blank forms is especially scary - who would even think that's normal? I almost went to one of those mall kiosks but after reading all these horror stories, I think I'll stick with a proper CPA or just use the free file option. Thanks for laying out these warning signs so clearly!
Great list! I'd also add - be suspicious if they push expensive "audit protection" insurance or other add-on services you didn't ask for. Those are usually just profit centers for them. And definitely verify their PTIN on the IRS website before letting them touch your return. I learned this the hard way when my first tax preparer turned out to have a suspended license!
This is exactly why I always tell people to be super careful about who they trust with their taxes! A few years ago my neighbor got burned by one of these scammers who took nearly $800 in "fees" from her $4,200 refund. She thought she was getting professional help but the guy was just running a scheme out of a strip mall office that disappeared after tax season. The worst part is these predators specifically target people who really need their refunds - folks with kids claiming EITC, people who are struggling financially and can't afford to lose a single dollar. It's disgusting how they take advantage when people are most vulnerable. Everyone should know: legitimate tax preparers will NEVER require your refund to go through their accounts first. If they're saying they need to "process" it through their system, that's your cue to walk out immediately. Your refund should go straight from the IRS to YOUR bank account, period.
This is so infuriating to read about! $800 in fees from a $4,200 refund is absolutely criminal. These scammers know exactly what they're doing - they set up shop in low-income neighborhoods during tax season, prey on people who desperately need their refunds, then vanish. It's basically legalized theft. I'm glad you mentioned how they target EITC families especially. Those are often single parents or working families who are counting on every penny of that refund to pay rent, buy groceries, or catch up on bills. To steal from them is just heartless. More people need to know about the IRS Free File program too - if you make under $73k you can literally file for FREE directly through the IRS website. No need to risk getting scammed by these vultures at all.
Did you have any credits like EIC or CTC? Those usually take longer to process and get more scrutiny.
yeah claimed EIC this year...guess that explains the hold up š®āšØ
EIC claims definitely get extra scrutiny and can add weeks to processing time. The good news is once you see those 571/290/971 codes, it usually means they've finished their review and you're in the final stages. Based on your transcript showing movement on 12-10-2024 with the 570 code still there, I'd expect to see an 846 code (refund issued) within the next 1-2 weeks. The -$42 balance is actually your refund amount after interest calculations. Keep checking your transcript updates on Thursdays/Fridays - that's when they typically post new cycles.
This is super helpful! I'm in a similar situation with EIC and was wondering why it's taking so long. Quick question - when you say "refund amount after interest calculations," does that mean the -$42 is what I'll actually get, or is there more to it? I'm still trying to understand how to read these transcripts properly š
Zainab Omar
Quick warning to everyone filling out Form 8863 - make sure your school is eligible! My community college didn't qualify because they weren't participating in federal student aid programs. Wasted hours trying to claim AOTC before figuring this out.
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Connor Gallagher
ā¢You can check if your school is eligible by looking at the Federal School Code List on the FAFSA website. If your school has a code there, it's almost always eligible for American Opportunity Credit purposes. Saved me a lot of headache!
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Zainab Omar
ā¢Thanks for that tip! Wish I'd known that before filling everything out. Just checked and sure enough, my school isn't on that list. Guess I'll have to look into the Lifetime Learning Credit instead since it has different requirements.
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Carmen Ruiz
I've been following this thread and wanted to share my experience as someone who went through similar Form 8863 confusion last year. The calculation error you described (getting 2,500,000) is actually really common - I made the exact same mistake! What helped me was creating a simple worksheet. For the American Opportunity Credit, it's: - First $2,000 of qualified expenses = 100% credit = $2,000 - Next $2,000 of qualified expenses = 25% credit = $500 - Maximum total credit = $2,500 The tricky part is that some tax software asks for the percentage as a decimal (0.25) while others want it as a whole number (25). Always double-check which format your form or software expects. Also, since you mentioned being an independent student under 24 - that's perfectly fine for claiming the credit. The age restrictions mainly apply to students being claimed as dependents on someone else's return. As long as you meet the other requirements (enrolled at least half-time, haven't completed first 4 years of higher education, meet income limits), you should be good to go. Good luck with your amended 2023 return too - it's definitely worth going back to claim that credit!
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Amara Nnamani
ā¢This is such helpful advice! I'm new to this community but dealing with the exact same Form 8863 issues. The worksheet breakdown you provided is really clear - I think I was making the same decimal vs percentage mistake that seems to be tripping up a lot of people here. Quick question - when you say "haven't completed first 4 years of higher education," does that mean 4 calendar years or 4 academic years? I took a gap year between high school and college, so I'm wondering if that affects the count. Also, do summer courses count toward the "at least half-time" requirement? Thanks for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to know others have navigated this successfully!
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